Posted on 03/15/2009 2:18:56 AM PDT by BlackVeil
Forensic experts believe they have identified the skeleton of the queen’s younger sister, murdered over 2,000 years ago ARCHEOLOGISTS and forensic experts believe they have identified the skeleton of Cleopatra’s younger sister, murdered more than 2,000 years ago on the orders of the Egyptian queen. The remains of Princess Arsinöe, put to death in 41BC on the orders of Cleopatra and her Roman lover Mark Antony to eliminate her as a rival, are the first relics of the Ptolemaic dynasty to be identified. The breakthrough, by an Austrian team, has provided pointers to Cleopatra’s true ethnicity. Scholars have long debated whether she was Greek or Macedonian like her ancestor the original Ptolemy, a Macedonian general who was made ruler of Egypt by Alexander the Great, or whether she was north African. ... The institute’s breakthrough came about after it set out to examine Thür’s belief that an octagonal tomb in the remains of the Roman city of Ephesus contained the body of Arsinöe. ... The distinctive tomb was first opened in 1926 by archeologists who found a sarcophagus inside containing a skeleton. They removed the skull, which was examined and measured; but it was lost in the upheaval of the second world war. In the early 1990s Thür reentered the tomb and found the headless skeleton, which she believed to be of a young woman. Clues, such as the unusual octagonal shape of the tomb, which echoed that of the lighthouse of Alexandria with which Arsinöe was associated, convinced Thür the body was that of Cleopatra’s sister. ...
(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...
This lady, like most murder victims, was killed by a relative.
GGG ping.
Cleopatra’s gonna fry for this.
Ping.
> This lady, like most murder victims, was killed by a relative.
This would never have happened if the Egyptians had better gun control... waitaminit (nevermind)
Sounds like OJ’s M.O.
Amazing: from measurements made 87 years ago, on a 2000 year old skull, now missing, a photograph of a beautiful, mixed race woman can be made. Is PC part of this analysis?
Cleopatra’s now black, bump ping.
You raise some good points, and I did wonder about that, myself.
But I couldn’t resist posting a story about Cleopatra.
Skeleton of Cleopatra’s Murdered Sister Identified
Fox | March 15, 2009
Posted on 03/15/2009 3:13:37 PM PDT by RDTF
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Whoops! Thanks GonzoII!
I’m pretty certain, by following the clues, that once most of the “local” royalty, of the last several thousand years, have been proven to have at least some African blood, the legitimacy of His “O”liness to be President will be self evident and all those peskyites who want to see the Birth Certificate can bother off.
Yes! Yes it is!
I am so amazed that anyone, with only a few sentences to work with, could generate an image of her!
How did you do that?
general about the Ptolemaic dynasty:
http://www.geocities.com/christopherjbennett/ptolemies/ptolemy_i.htm
Wiki-wacky pedia (before this new “she was black” BS arrives):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsinoe_IV_of_Egypt
Arsinoe IV of Egypt
Arsinoe IV (Greek: ...ca. 68 or 67 BC - 41 BC) was the youngest daughter of Ptolemy XII Auletes, sister of Ptolemy XIII and Cleopatra VII, and one of the last rulers of the Ptolemaic dynasty of ancient Egypt. When their father died, he left Ptolemy and Cleopatra as joint rulers of Egypt, but Ptolemy soon dethroned Cleopatra and forced her to flee Alexandria.
When Julius Caesar arrived in Alexandria in 48 BC and sided with Cleopatra’s faction, Arsinoe escaped from the capital with her mentor Ganymedes and joined the Egyptian army under Achillas, assuming the title of pharaoh. When Achillas and Ganymedes clashed, Arsinoe had Achillas executed and placed Ganymedes in command of the army.[1] Ganymedes initially enjoyed some success against the Romans, but the leading Egyptian officers were soon dissatisfied with the eunuch. They pretended to want peace and negotiated with Caesar an exchange of Arsinoe for Ptolemy XIII, who was released.[2] But Ptolemy continued the war. Soon the Romans received reinforcements and inflicted a decisive defeat on the Egyptians.
Arsinoe was transported to Rome, where she was forced to appear in Caesar’s triumph, but the Romans had pity for her.[3] Despite usual traditions of prisoners in triumphs being strangled when the festivities were at an end, Caesar spared Arsinoe and granted her sanctuary at the temple of Artemis in Ephesus. Arsinoe lived in the temple for many years, always keeping a watchful eye for her sister Cleopatra, who saw her as a threat to her power. Her fears proved well-founded; in 41 BC, at Cleopatra’s instigation, Mark Antony ordered Arsinoe executed on the steps of the temple. The priest Megabyzus, who had welcomed Arsinoe on her arrival at the temple as Queen, was only pardoned, when an embassy from Ephesus made a petition to Cleopatra.[4]
The tomb of Arsinoe was very probably correctly identified by Hilke Thur with a octogonal monument situated in the centre of Ephesus. The epitaph is missing but the tomb can be dated in the time of 50 to 20 BC and in 1926 the body of an approximately 20 year old woman of aristocratic rank was found in the burial chamber. Arsinoe was the only known member of the nobility of that time who died in Ephesus. If the monument is really the tomb of Arsinoe, she would be the only member of the Ptolemaic dynasty whose body has survived until today.[5]
I think that's Eddie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds standing beside the beautiful Cleopatra. Who would ever have guessed that time travel would be so perfected that they could meet up with her?
Would that I had known all this for Latin and English Lit classes!
Eddie Fisher, Debbie Reynolds, and time travel vis a vis Latin and English Lit.
I knew I should have paid more attention to Albert when he was ‘splainin’ his Theory of Relativity to me.
Just kidding.
Thank you for your post. :-)
Scholars have long debated whether she was Greek or Macedonian like her ancestor the original Ptolemy
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