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The Origin of Sunspots -- A New Hypothesis
American Geophysical Union ^ | December 2003 | J. Ackerman

Posted on 05/17/2011 2:33:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Recent observations of sunspots, the high temperature of the corona and CMEs strongly suggest that they are all caused by highly energetic solid bodies falling into the Sun.

This hypothesis is consistent with the rapid (3000 mph) downward flow of gases in sunspot interiors observed by SOHO, their lower temperatures, and the presence of large quantities of water in their spectra.

The high velocity of the incoming body entrains the surface gases, carrying them rapidly downward.

The vaporization of the bodies cools the local gases and the water released from the bodies produces the observed spectra.

Solar flares and CMEs comprise the material splashed from the impact perimeter.

The paired sunspots and the multiple secondary spots are the result of the partial breaking up of the incoming body in the solar atmosphere before it reaches the surface.

The persistence of the sunspots is due to a quasi-stable toroidal circulation induced in the surface layer, similar to a smoke-ring or an inverse Hadley cell.

An impact was recently captured in a sequence of ultraviolet images by the TRACE spacecraft.

In the clip, the initial dark scene is suddenly illuminated by the splash or flare due to the primary impactor, which is not seen because it is dark.

The resulting illumination makes it possible to observe the associated secondary bodies, which leave dark trails of gases as they vaporize and cool their surroundings.

These were described as 'tadpoles' because they each leave undulating dark tails in contrast to the bright background.

Their downward motion has created great difficulty for the current hypothesis, that sunspots are generated from within the sun, implying that all material should be moving outward.

The estimated velocity of the 'tadpoles,' 400 miles/sec implies that they fell from the vicinity of Jupiter's orbit.

(Excerpt) Read more at adsabs.harvard.edu ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; comets; jupiter; sunspots
[cont'd] I suggest that the modulation of sunspot activity, illustrated by the well-known butterfly diagram, is due to millions of bodies which have been ejected from Jupiter's Great Red Spot (-20 latitude) in recent millennia.

The differences in their orbits and the consequent modulation of the resulting impacts on the Sun are likely due to variations in the ecliptic and eccentricity, both of which follow Jupiter's period.

The difference between Jupiter's period (11.8 earth years) and the average sunspot cycle (11.3) years, and the systematic variation of sunspot latitude during a cycle, may be due to relativistic effects on their sun grazing orbits (advance of perihelion) combined with the barycentric motion of the Sun caused primarily by Jupiter.

The influx of numerous high velocity solid bodies is also consistent with the localized, non-thermal heating of the corona to millions of degrees.

Yohkoh images show only the hottest part of the corona and SOHO's ultraviolet spectra of these regions have provided clear evidence for their non-thermal nature.

These show the continually changing locations of heat deposition due to incoming bodies.

The implication of the 'Maunder Minimum' and recent studies of the sunspot cylce on climate is that powerful bursts of energetic charged particles from the Sun are a significant factor in maintaining the temperature of the Earth at its current level.

This accentuates the importance of understanding their origin, particularly when their future decline remains a possibility.

1 posted on 05/17/2011 2:33:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

This is a December 2003 article.

And borders on shakey data.


2 posted on 05/17/2011 2:41:10 PM PDT by JBR34
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To: SunkenCiv

Pub date is 2003. Any updates, say from STEREO?


3 posted on 05/17/2011 2:42:25 PM PDT by battlecry
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To: SunkenCiv

>> “This accentuates the importance of understanding their origin, particularly when their future decline remains a possibility.” <<

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Definitely smells like trolling for federal dollars.


4 posted on 05/17/2011 2:56:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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5 posted on 05/17/2011 3:04:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; 75thOVI; agrace; ...

Maunder, make that Meander Minimum. :')
 
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6 posted on 05/17/2011 3:05:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: JBR34; battlecry

Saw the link in the past day or so, here:

http://www.spacebanter.com/showthread.php?t=133183


7 posted on 05/17/2011 3:10:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: JBR34; battlecry

Whoops. That isn’t where I saw the link, but it was in the last day or so. (blush)


8 posted on 05/17/2011 3:11:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv

The difference between the Jupiter orbit and the Sunspot cycle makes this a weak theory. You have to explain to the comet why it must add one half year to the time it falls into Sun from the fall time for the previous comet. All that mumbo jumbo about relativity and what not seems custom made to intimidate an opponent of the idea into silence.


9 posted on 05/17/2011 3:21:59 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: SunkenCiv

The mother ship is resting in stasis in the core of the sun until the time to revive the occupants arrives. Periodic releases of waste matter from the life support systems are the cause of the sunspot activity.


10 posted on 05/17/2011 3:32:32 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: JBR34; battlecry; Nateman; ExpatCanuck

Calling it a theory may be a stretch anyway; I’d like to see the bare-bones of it verified (iow, are there actually records of impactors moving at a narrow range of velocities?), but I’m not optimistic.

I found more by the author, a website and a ‘blog, and holy cow. He reminds me of some folks I’ve known who tried to incorporate lots of completely unrelated things into their (usually “borrowed”) core belief systems, and rejected other things which appeared to support them, making it obvious that there was an arbitrary process going on, rather than some kind of syllogistic process, or even some basic understanding of what they were looking at.

Here’s an example, apparently the author:

http://acksblog.firmament-chaos.com/2011/01/24/solar-corona-heating/

[snip] Generally speaking, the bodies ejected from priori-Mars are smaller, although a few earth approaching asteroids have dimensions of twenty miles. The meteorites, which are all from Mars, are more typical of these bodies. The most common type of which are carbonaceous condrites, which came from the surface of the formerly living planet. Much larger, hydrated, cinder-like (low density) bodies formed from the hot jet of gases ejected from Jupiter, e.g. the main-belt asteroids. However, lacking any understanding of cyclic catastrophism, modern scientists are completely unaware of millions of these bodies still present in highly eccentric orbits around the Sun. [/snip]

That paragraph has a small smattering of real information, mixed thoroughly with some b-b-b-b-b-lips kinds of things — “modern scientists are completely unaware” — my ass they are. And if they were, how the hell would the author know about ‘em? Vision quest? Ouija board? That fortune-teller in the wagon in the movie “The Wizard of Oz”?


11 posted on 05/17/2011 4:02:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv

The sun is still so young, it’s complexion hasn’t yet cleared.


12 posted on 05/17/2011 4:15:33 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow, if this theory holds up, then all we gotta do is pack up all of our garbage and put it into an earth orbit. When the sunspots start slowin’ down, we just kick off a few to the sun to create any number of sunspots we need. Viola!! No more Meander Minimums and Little Ice Ages.

Oh, and just to make the greenies even more happier, we can “sequester” enough CO2 to encapsulate all the garbage in, thus making it a double win-win.

Now, what tree-hugging, CO2 hating libtard would be against doing all that. Ship the garbage, CO2, spent uranium, etc. into the sun and everyone wins.

Do I really need the /sarc tag?


13 posted on 05/17/2011 6:59:38 PM PDT by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: hadit2here

For the Trolls!


14 posted on 05/17/2011 8:12:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: editor-surveyor

>>For the Trolls!<<

Hell, yeah! Package them up with the garbage and shoot them into the sun too.


15 posted on 05/17/2011 8:21:51 PM PDT by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: SunkenCiv
You post this after the comet hit the sun and NASA claims the flare was a coincidence. Was this post a coincidence?

Or are you hinting that the flare reacts instantly to an impact not as NASA states.

16 posted on 05/18/2011 12:25:19 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
an inverse Hadley cell.

I spent the night in one of those once years ago. Fortunately all the negative charges were dropped.

17 posted on 05/18/2011 12:30:28 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

It jogged my memory.
18 posted on 05/19/2011 5:21:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv

yes, and hadit2here in the last post in that thread has it exactly right.


19 posted on 05/19/2011 8:28:30 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: SunkenCiv
I suggest that the modulation of sunspot activity, illustrated by the well-known butterfly diagram, is due to millions of bodies which have been ejected from Jupiter's Great Red Spot (-20 latitude) in recent millennia.

Surely, this is a joke, right? What sort of ANYTHING is being “ejected” from Jupiter, let alone from its “red spot”?

I've never heard of such a thing before.

20 posted on 05/22/2011 6:42:42 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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