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A man’s discovery of bones under his pub could forever change what we know about the Irish
The Washington Post ^ | 17 March 2016 | Peter Whoriskey

Posted on 03/21/2016 8:45:16 AM PDT by Theoria

Ten years ago, an Irish pub owner was clearing land for a driveway when his digging exposed an unusually large flat stone. The stone obscured a dark gap underneath. He grabbed a flashlight to peer in.

"I shot the torch in and saw the gentleman, well, his skull and bones," Bertie Currie, the pub owner, said this week.

The remains of three humans, in fact, were found behind McCuaig’s Bar in County Antrim, Northern Ireland. And though police were called, it was not, as it turned out, a crime scene.

Instead, what Currie had stumbled over was an ancient burial that, after a recent DNA analysis, challenges the traditional centuries-old account of Irish origins.

From as far back as the 16th century, historians taught that the Irish are the descendants of the Celts, an Iron Age people who originated in the middle of Europe and invaded Ireland somewhere between 1000 B.C. and 500 B.C.

That story has inspired innumerable references linking the Irish with Celtic culture. The Nobel-winning Irish poet William Butler Yeats titled a book “Celtic Twilight.” Irish songs are deemed “Celtic” music. Some nationalists embraced the Celtic distinction. And in Boston, arguably the most Irish city in the United States, the owners of the NBA franchise dress their players in green and call them the Celtics.

Yet the bones discovered behind McCuaig’s tell a different story of Irish origins, and it does not include the Celts.

“The DNA evidence based on those bones completely upends the traditional view,” said Barry Cunliffe, an emeritus professor of archaeology at Oxford who has written books on the origins of the people of Ireland.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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To: blueunicorn6
My wife assures me the Irish came straight from heaven.

That's what my dad said too.

5.56mm

41 posted on 03/21/2016 4:00:55 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: C19fan; Wyrd bið ful aræd
The Vikings founded Dublin.

Aye they did that indeed, as a slave trading outpost. "Enforced diversity" one might say.

42 posted on 03/21/2016 10:03:51 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Grimmy
LOL...well actually under the car park in back - but same point!
43 posted on 03/21/2016 10:06:36 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Tainan

Oh, so a well disciplined Irishman, then. He managed to stagger through the door before falling out.

Question:

Why did the good Lord have man invent whiskey?

Answer:

So the Irish wouldn’t conquer the world.


44 posted on 03/22/2016 11:38:08 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

Odds are decent that, digging under a pub in Ireland will turn up archaeological remains, it’s not as if pubs are four leaf clovers. ;’)


45 posted on 03/22/2016 2:14:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Theoria

Maybe three visiting distant relatives :o%


46 posted on 03/22/2016 5:52:12 PM PDT by chit*chat
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To: SunkenCiv

I never considered the Irish Pub - 4 Leaf Clover connection before.

This needs research. That means government grant.

I’ll finally be able to afford that Porsche.


47 posted on 03/23/2016 12:18:11 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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the full text is here, not sure it’s still on the ComPost’s site.

https://dailygazette.com/2016/03/17/bones-found-under-pub-irish/


48 posted on 04/13/2021 10:34:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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49 posted on 04/20/2021 4:21:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

DNA reality continues to shred/sneer at a lot of so called history we have been fed for a couple of centuries, at least.:

Bones discovered behind McCuaig’s Bar in County Antrim, Northern Ireland.

A recent DNA analysis of the bones challenges the conventional account of Irish origins.
PHOTOGRAPHER: QUEEN’S UNIVERSITY BELFASTBones discovered behind McCuaig’s Bar in County Antrim, Northern Ireland. A recent DNA analysis of the bones challenges the conventional account of Irish origins.

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Ten years ago, an Irish pub owner was clearing land for a driveway when his digging exposed an unusually large flat stone. The stone, in turn, obscured a dark gap underneath. He grabbed a flashlight to peer in.

“I shot the torch in and saw the gentleman, well, his skull and bones,” Bertie Currie, the pub owner, said this week.

The remains of three humans, in fact, were found behind McCuaig’s Pub in County Antrim, Northern Ireland. And though police were called, it was not, as it turned out, a crime scene.

Instead, what Currie had stumbled over was an ancient burial that, after a recent DNA analysis, challenges the traditional centuries-old account of Irish origins.

From as far back as the 16th century, historians taught that the Irish are the descendants of the Celts, an Iron Age people who originated in the middle of Europe and invaded Ireland somewhere between 1000 BC and 500 BC.

That story has inspired innumerable references linking the Irish with Celtic culture. The Nobel-winning Irish poet William Butler Yeats titled a book “Celtic Twilight.” Irish songs are deemed “Celtic” music. Some nationalists embraced the Celtic distinction. In Boston, arguably the most Irish city in the United States, the owners of the NBA franchise dress their players in green and call them the Celtics.

Yet, the bones discovered behind McCuaig’s tell a different story of Irish origins, and it does not include the Celts.

“The DNA evidence based on those bones completely upends the traditional view,” said Barry Cunliffe, an emeritus professor of archaeology at Oxford who has written books on the origins of the people of Ireland.

DNA research indicates that the three skeletons found behind McCuaig’s are the ancestors of the modern Irish and they predate the Celts and their purported arrival by a thousand years or more. The genetic roots of today’s Irish, in other words, existed in Ireland before the Celts arrived.

“The most striking feature” of the bones, according to the research published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science journal, is how much their DNA resembles that of contemporary Irish, Welsh and Scots. (By contrast, older bones found in Ireland were more like Mediterranean people, not the modern Irish.)

Radiocarbon dating shows that the bones discovered at McCuaig’s go back to about 2000 BC. That makes them hundreds of years older than the oldest artifacts generally considered to be Celtic – relics unearthed from Celt homelands of continental Europe, most notably around Switzerland, Austria and Germany.


50 posted on 04/21/2021 9:45:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Still alive, in spite of being stupid and getting vaccinated twice!! On: 01/31/2021 & 2/21/2021)
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