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Archaeologists find bust of Roman emperor in Egypt [Marcus Aurelius]
Yahoo! ^ | April 22, 2018 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/23/2018 12:41:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

This undated photo released by the Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities, shows the head of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius that was found in the Temple of Kom Ombo, in Aswan, 585 miles (940 kilometers) south of Cairo, Egypt. (Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities via AP)

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: aswan; egypt; godsgravesglyphs; komombo; marcusaurelius; romanempire
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To: Political Junkie Too

I’ve seen better heads on a glass of beer. — Groucho Marx


21 posted on 04/23/2018 1:22:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Bogie

Considering what a crap job he did raising his son, I could consider him a good philosopher and writer, but (and I know this includes the supposedly wisest man ever), I can’t consider somebody a great MAN if their kid is an idiot and/or psychopath.


22 posted on 04/23/2018 1:26:32 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF.)
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To: RedStateRocker

I can’t consider somebody a great MAN if their kid is an idiot and/or psychopath.
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Sometimes great people’s kids turn out crappy through no fault of the parents. It is one good argument against having hereditary monarchies.


23 posted on 04/23/2018 1:34:18 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: SunkenCiv

Nice legs.
Shame about your face.


24 posted on 04/23/2018 1:35:42 PM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: LongWayHome
He really only liked Roman history because of the orgies and using slaves for sex, but that didn't test well with the focus groups..

25 posted on 04/23/2018 1:38:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: LongWayHome

“Best book I was ever given in high school was “Meditations’ by Marcus Aurelius”

Did he autograph it for you?


26 posted on 04/23/2018 1:41:48 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: hanamizu

You know King Solomon said who knows if my son will be a wise man or a fool. It’s not always the parent’s fault. The child still has free will and makes choices.


27 posted on 04/23/2018 1:45:02 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SunkenCiv

It would test well with the modern democrat base though. He was ahead of his time.


28 posted on 04/23/2018 2:06:04 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Russians couldnt have done a better job destroying sacred American institutions than Democrats have)
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To: SunkenCiv

It took a while to perfect the concept of Flat Stanley...


29 posted on 04/23/2018 2:16:02 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: bkopto

I dunno, looks kinda like Beethoven to me. :)


30 posted on 04/23/2018 2:25:16 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

“Marcus Aurelius was an energetic persecutor of the Christians, and for zealous intolerance was a star of the first magnitude in a galaxy of persecuting emperors. During Aurelius’s reign and with his full sanction, Felicitas, Justin Martyr, Polycarp, and many thousands of less renowned Christians were cruelly tortured to death.”


31 posted on 04/23/2018 2:41:55 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: LongWayHome

I liked his “Letters to Lesbia” one of his mistresses.


32 posted on 04/23/2018 2:44:42 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: bkopto

When the muslims took over Egypt they afttack all art depicting humans. They are commanded to by their so-called holy book.


33 posted on 04/23/2018 3:26:19 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: CharleysPride
Yes. Marcus Aurelius presided over the last half of the Pax Romana, the high water mark of western civilization for the next 1500 years.
34 posted on 04/23/2018 3:40:58 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: RedStateRocker
Considering what a crap job he did raising his son, I could consider him a good philosopher and writer, but (and I know this includes the supposedly wisest man ever), I can’t consider somebody a great MAN if their kid is an idiot and/or psychopath.

Marcus was actually the last of the good emperors. Starting with his son, the Roman Empire began a slow but steady decline.

35 posted on 04/23/2018 4:33:52 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: RedStateRocker

It had to do with the fact that the Romans kept their wine in lead containers. They were suffering from arsenic poisoning.


36 posted on 04/23/2018 4:37:24 PM PDT by Bogie
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bttt


37 posted on 04/23/2018 4:55:57 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (This account has been banned or suspended.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Rome: the high water mark of western civilization for the next 1500 years.

This is somewhat of a misnomer that is usually popularized by liberal arts programs. It was only because of Rome's complete control and dominance that resources derived from tribute & taxes were able to be directed towards engineering and arts, primarily infrastructure, architecture and literature.

Secondly, Gibbon estimated that slaves represented approximately 50% of the total population of 120m under Roman control. With no possible means of escape, and certain torture and death for non-compliance, Rome was able to utilize this labor pool to manage all forms of food/raw materials/weapons production and build out/maintain vast infrastructure projects.

The reason for Rome's complete (military) control was their development & deployment of advanced (iron) weapons systems. Rome eventually failed because they lost their technological edge in maintaining this military superiority. As the Goths, Vandals and tribes from other outlying regions eventually acquired similar technology, the odds were evened. Combined with more disciplined tactics and renewed vigor, the tribes overwhelmed the depleted Roman legions.

So, why the collapse in commerce, trade and arts during the middle ages? Simple: level playing field. Everyone had access to the same military technology and state of art weapons. This had a two-fold effect: no one had a monopoly on revenue extraction, and all free capital available for investment was poured into military technology.

So, while the arts and commerce suffered, military defense systems aka castles increased in tremendous complexity and engineering capabilities. Two, metallurgy continued to develop apace, resulting in extremely complicated & refined personal armor. Third, and perhaps most importantly, even with all available resources devoted to military funding, it would still take 1000 years before the next great leap in military weaponry was developed: firearms.

As we know, it wasn't until the development of firearms that nation-states began to finally form and (once again) exert territorial control. Only after firm regional boundaries like Britain, France & Germany (HRE) emerged, do we see the return of available funding to arts & the protection of commerce (highway safety). It's not a coincidence that the Renaissance began only around 100 years after effective firearms allowed technology leaders to control regional economies. That is, surplus wealth was finally once again available to divert from military programs.

Rome had a monopoly and lost it. We look to the areas they influenced and see this great body of work, but in general, monopolies always produce stagnation. Competition is what creates innovation. Technology - military and building - is what advanced at a tremendous pace after the fall of the Western empire.

38 posted on 04/23/2018 5:35:49 PM PDT by semantic (u)
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To: semantic

Thank you for your comments.

Rome split the territory and was relying on vandals and others to be their military presence in many provences. Paying mercenaries to be your army is a losing proposition, loyalty and so forth.

I like that the Romans used local governors and some tribal chiefs, to serve alongside theirs and took family members hostage back to rome to indoctrinate them and serve as a warning what would happen if you don’t cooperate.

It is remarkable to me that a city could have such power for so long.

Best wishes.


39 posted on 04/23/2018 5:40:46 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: DannyTN; MoochPooch; RedStateRocker
It’s not always the parent’s fault.

You can always blame the mother...
40 posted on 04/23/2018 7:25:16 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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