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Scientists Resurrecting The Woolly Mammoth Are Crazy, Not ‘Cool’
The Federalist ^ | 02/19/2024 | Nathan Stone

Posted on 02/19/2024 7:02:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Ask why, exactly, we need to bring woolly mammoths back to life after 4,000 years, and the answers become numerous and hideously predictable.

To paraphrase Jeff Goldblum in “Jurassic Park,” just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should — even if that something is “cool.”

Ben Lamm and Eriona Hysolli recently took to Newsweek to announce that they and their team at Colossal Biosciences are bringing the woolly mammoth back to life. This is not a pie-in-the-sky pseudo-sci fi dream that might happen at some undefined future date. “Our first mammoth calves will be born in 2028,” they declare.

The plan is to recreate the genome (the complete set of genes or genetic material of a cell or organism) of the woolly mammoth from preserved mammoth remains. This will be achieved through DNA editing, synthesis technologies, and AI, which will “help us with all the computational analysis of ancient genomes, assembly, comparative genomics, and recommendation systems on what types of tools to use.” These recreated genetic packages will then be implanted into the harvested egg of an Asian elephant (the closest living relation of the mammoth) and — voila! — a baby mammoth (or “a cold-resistant elephant” as Colossal Biosciences’ website says.)

Ask why, exactly, we need to bring mammoths back to life, and the answers become numerous and hideously predictable. Colossal Biosciences’ website lists 10 “core goals” for resurrecting the species that can be boiled down to climate change and saving modern elephants from extinction. Both reasons are bogus.

To take the easiest one — preserving elephants — first, the obvious question is: How will elephants be saved with the reintroduction of mammoths? The Asian elephant’s habitat is India and Southeast Asia. The African forest elephant and the African savannah elephant both live exactly where their names suggest. Making a “cold-resistant elephant” won’t do anything for them.

Lamm and Hysolli give something of an answer when they say that their work could be used to combat elephant endotheliotropic herpesviruses (EEHV), which kill up to 20 percent of elephant calves every year. So why not just direct all of their technology to combat that very concrete threat?

Lamm and Hysolli claim that “there’s no big market from a financing perspective, so not enough technology and resources have gone into that.” At a time when people are literally vowing to not have children to “save the planet,” there’s no market to eradicate an elephant-killing virus, even though elephants are a keystone species? And the elephant in the corner is that Colossal Biosciences already has the technology and equipment. Even if it lost half of its finances (Colossal has an annual revenue of $35.1 million and a total funding of $225 million), there should still be some resources to fight the problem.

The arguments about climate change are just as unconvincing. There are the usual, low-hanging objections: If man is the primary causer of climate change, how will bringing mammoths back to life solve the problem? If bringing mammoths back to life is the solution, why does Bill Gates want to dim the sun? Since scientists just now discovered that trees were messing with their climate models, how can we be sure that bringing back an extinct species will actually “fight climate change”?

Then there are more serious problems. It’s a fact that the climate has changed since the last woolly mammoths died 4,000 years ago. This means that if a woolly mammoth were stitched together, brought to life, and plopped into the wilderness, the cold ecosystems would not be the same.

Furthermore, there is the problem of the phenotypes. A phenotype is a set of observable characteristics of an organism that come from the interaction of the organism’s genetic makeup and its environment. Lamm and Hysolli are clear that their genetic engineering must get the phenotypes of their mammoths correct. “We must also be sure the genetic engineering is producing the phenotypes we need to recreate the mammoth and its famous traits,” they say.

But since modern man has never seen a woolly mammoth, how can anyone be sure that the genetic engineering is producing authentic mammoth phenotypes? And if that can’t be guaranteed, how do we know that these assembly-lined lumps of carbon will actually diversify and strengthen the ecosystems they are put into?

The one excuse Lamm and Hysolli give that rings true is that “outside of the benefits to the planet, it’s also just a cool, fun, and inspiring thing to be doing.” Those words become more chilling when you realize that the woolly mammoth is not the only species slated for resurrection. True, most of them are benign. Passenger pigeons and dodos and Carolina parakeets are not exactly going to be threats. But saber-toothed tigers? Cave bears? These animals have been extinct for so many thousands of years and were such ferocious predators that it is doubtful they would have any intrinsic fear of man, similar to polar bears today.

What’s more, what other extinct animals will just be “cool” and “fun” to resurrect? The list will expand as more remains with preserved DNA are found and AI and genetic engineering procedures become more fine-tuned. But we don’t even have to be that melodramatic about it. What sort of diseases will these things bring back with them? What diseases will mutate to infect these new species, and how will these mutations affect humans? How will these newly resurrected species interact with today’s species? How many species will be driven to extinction as resurrected animals fight them for space and resources?

We might soothe our minds by saying these questions will be settled in a democratic way with people able and encouraged to share and argue for their perspectives. But that’s not how Colossal Biosciences is going to play this game.

We don’t view our role as one to persuade people. That’s not our job. … What we’ve found with naysayers is that some are informed. We’ll run towards those people. … If they really know the science or the conservation sphere, and have informed criticisms, then that helps us.

This aristocratic attitude — and not which extinct species will be brought back — is the real source of terror embedded in the “de-extinction” campaign. Modern man has become accustomed (perhaps too accustomed) to massive technological change within a short time frame; in less than 30 years, for example, cell phones went from a bagged luxury to a pocketed necessity. Massive ecological change is completely different.

The vision and philosophy espoused by Lamm, Hysolli, and Colossal is one in which ordinary, “uneducated” people are simply meat cogs without a voice or any means of expressing their opinion, not just about what happens to their country but, even more primitively, what sort of physical world they live in. Right now, it is possible for someone to throw away the iPhone, cancel the Wi-Fi, and live in a log cabin in the mountains. He still can exercise some choice over his existence. But if the “cool kids” decide they want to populate his world with saber-toothed tigers or Neanderthal men, he will have absolutely no say in the matter. Our hypothetical man will simply have to live with the consequences of their genetic playtime. And what will be the consequences when the fun lovers decide that resurrection is old hat? What will happen when they decide that the next step is to play with our genetics?

During Lent, Christians are reminded that we are dust and to dust we will return. We do not need to be wet clay for the playpen of mad scientists.


Nathan Stone is a storyteller who looks at culture, politics, and religion from a different POV on his YouTube channel Nate on the Stone, and who exercises the moral imagination in his writing. A lover of books, music and the outdoors (especially with dogs) he earned a masters in American history from Liberty University in 2016.


TOPICS: History; Pets/Animals; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: cloning; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; mammoth; mammoths; nathanstone; resurrection; scientists
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To: rlmorel

I know!Amazing detail


21 posted on 02/19/2024 8:32:28 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ..
Thanks Beowulf9. Perhaps a web search is in order. I do recall that in the 19th c a group of VIPs met in Alaska territory, and some locals obtained red meat (which the VIPs demanded) from a frozen mammoth carcass that was sticking out of some icy hillside. Not sure whether that anecdote is real or memorex though.

Also, the ivory billiard balls of the 19th century were sometimes made of mammoth ivory from the great white north. Not sure about that story either. :^)

22 posted on 02/19/2024 10:08:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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Woolly mammoth movements tied to earliest Alaska hunting camps
Date: January 17, 2024
Source: University of Alaska Fairbanks
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/01/240117141002.htm


23 posted on 02/19/2024 10:34:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Beowulf9

https://search.brave.com/search?q=i+claudius+ate+mammoth%3F\

okay, it was only 1951, the meal was served in NY, obtained from the Aleutians, and apparently it was actually sea turtle (per the alleged DNA).

https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/2023/05/07/mystery-meat-of-1951-did-an-exclusive-club-eat-a-frozen-woolly-mammoth-from-the-aleutians/


24 posted on 02/19/2024 10:39:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting but I was talking about this:

In I Claudius (or maybe Claudius the God) he mentioned (and I don’t know if it’s historically accurate or not) that Caligula had a feast given him and it had a strange animal they found embedded in the ice on the mountaintop, a mammoth. It was roasted and served at the feast.


25 posted on 02/19/2024 10:47:04 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: SeekAndFind

Open a Mammoth Steakhouse chain.


26 posted on 02/19/2024 11:06:02 PM PST by gitmo (If your biography doesn't match your theology, what good is it?)
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To: EEGator

It is said that to save a species from extinction, the species must be domesticated. (For market).


27 posted on 02/19/2024 11:16:52 PM PST by Does so ( 🇺🇦...Motels for Migrants give legitimate addresses for mail-in ballots.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Next they’ll want to bring back the small brained, dim witted cave man! Wait! It’s already here … it’s called a Demokrat!


28 posted on 02/20/2024 1:29:58 AM PST by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: SeekAndFind

“”The plan is to recreate the genome (the complete set of genes or genetic material of a cell or organism) of the woolly mammoth from preserved mammoth remains. This will be achieved through DNA editing, synthesis technologies, and AI, which will “help us with all the computational analysis of ancient genomes, assembly, comparative genomics, and recommendation systems on what types of tools to use.” These recreated genetic packages will then be implanted into the harvested egg of an Asian elephant””

What could POSSIBLY go wrong? /ssssssss

And, what if some of the science fiction theories come true? Imagine if genetic memory and a collective unconsciousness is real? If the mammoths remember all the humans who hunted them long ago, what do you think they will do today? Forgive and forget......what about those loooong memories?
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29 posted on 02/20/2024 1:47:02 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: SeekAndFind; SunkenCiv

You bring dis back.

Caveman Marty like.

me give her dna

30 posted on 02/20/2024 2:00:03 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SeekAndFind

What could possibly go wrong?


31 posted on 02/20/2024 2:51:28 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "Democracy" like throwing your opponent into jail.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
We'll have to re-learn some long-lost skills, of course, but that shouldn't take too long.

Correct. Slow learners will be rapidly weeded out, and the smarter ones will learn from observing the mistakes of the former.

32 posted on 02/20/2024 2:59:08 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Next week on The Bickersons... )
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To: SunkenCiv

When I was little and less discriminate in surfing the net, I spent a lot of time on ebay. They had plenty of items made of mammoth ivory. It’s real, though of course not as plentiful as buyers think.


33 posted on 02/20/2024 3:19:26 AM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Pterodactyls would be pretty cool.....


34 posted on 02/20/2024 3:30:20 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco
Yeah…but you would have to keep a close eye on the dog, kids, and wife…


35 posted on 02/20/2024 4:05:52 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: SeekAndFind

It all depends on whether they taste good or not.


36 posted on 02/20/2024 4:14:25 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Man, how hungry do you have to be to poke a mammoth with a stick?


37 posted on 02/20/2024 4:17:51 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

How many bug meals would it take to get you to that point?


38 posted on 02/20/2024 4:24:18 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: EEGator

I want Dire Wolves.


39 posted on 02/20/2024 4:46:28 AM PST by Salamander (Please visit my profile page help save my beloved dog's life. https://www.givesendgo.com/G2FUF.)
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To: rlmorel

Hey now!


40 posted on 02/20/2024 4:47:45 AM PST by Salamander (Please visit my profile page help save my beloved dog's life. https://www.givesendgo.com/G2FUF.)
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