Posted on 10/29/2005 8:13:55 PM PDT by ncountylee
TOKYO (AP) - Victims of the U.S. atomic bombings of Japan joined a sit-in rally in Hiroshima on Saturday to protest plans to base a nuclear-powered American warship in the country, an activist said.
The protest came as talks got underway between top Japanese and American security officials on how to realign the U.S. military presence in Japan.
About 80 people - many of them victims of the 1945 U.S. atomic bomb attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki - rallied against plans announced Friday by the U.S. Navy to deploy a Nimitz-class nuclear-powered aircraft carrier in Japan, said Kazutoshi Kajikawa, who heads the Hiroshima Peace Movement Center.
"It makes me angry that America can even consider basing a nuclear carrier in Japan, the only country in the world to have suffered a nuclear attack," Kajikawa said.
Basing the ship in Japan will also put the Japanese public at risk of being exposed to a radiation leak, he said.
The U.S. has said the carrier can be operated safely in Japanese waters. American Ambassador to Japan Thomas Schieffer told reporters Friday that nuclear ships had made 1,200 visits to Japan in the past 40 years without harming the environment.
The U.S. Navy said it decided to replace the conventional aircraft carrier now based in Yokosuka, just outside Tokyo, with the nuclear-powered ship because it has greater capabilities.
Not to nitpick, but since the very early 70's, we have only built nuc carriers and subs. Cruisers are now gas-turbine (read: "Big ass jet engine") powered, ditto for FFGs and DDGs.
Truman was told that 100,000 mainland Asians were dying at the hands of the Japanese occupiers each month, and he factored that into his decision. A historian recently estimated that the actual death rate was more like 250,000 to 400,000. We planned to invade on 1 November 1945. In other words, the fewer than 200,000 deaths between Hiroshima and Nagasaki prevented somewhere between 300,000 and 1.2 million deaths on the mainland before we even begin counting invasion casualties.
I recommend some Pamprin. Leave the discussions of "nukes" to the adults who are able to understand them.
Bullshit. Prove it.
Actually, I don't have to prove anything. What you need to do is get over the idea that you know or understand anything about the military. It's pretty clear you don't. In fact, let me put it this way, your demand is something no one who'd ever been in the military would do.
Try to stay on target in the future. You will enjoy it more and, amazingly, begin to understand some of the more serious statements others make in response to those stories.
They're not a race.
I'd believe him before I'd ever believe you, mua, your credibility is all but shot.
They have demonstrated numerous times that they are able to flip from one state to the other very rapidly.
The primary topic, however, was about folks who were hit by the first nukes who were still alive and who were part of an anti-nuke demonstration.
So far I have seen no one here willing to put himself or herself in their place.
We've even had people blaming children for WWII.
I think it's heavy use of narcotics that's making it difficult for our society to identify life's villains anymore.
And I don't blame Harry Truman for a decision that may have traded 200,000 casualties for 2.2 million. The Japanese forces on the Asian mainland were killing somewhere around 250,000 and 400,000 civilians a month, so there would have been 750,000 to 1.2million deaths in august, September and October. Then, the invasion on 1 November would have cost about a million or more lives, mostly civilians.
Truman would have to have been a monster to hold it back.
If you can't prove special knowledge, don't claim it. There is no credit for the bullshit arts on FR.
You are out of hand and are trying to turn this thread into a flamefest.
You claimed something you can't prove. That makes it bullshit.
I can't imagine they'll send the Nimitz to Yoko. That would just be rubbing their noses in it, which would be wrong at all, but especially wrong after they've been such fine allies the past 55 years.
Why are you stuck in this Ying/Yang thing where it is necessary to blame the victims for getting roasted by a nuke?
Seems like he's got something up his ass.
Ever hear of a Davey Crockett Rocket?
Infantry battalions had them.
People who exhibit ignorance of the Davey Crockett were undoubtedly not in the military, or, at any rate, in the American military, and probably not the Russian military either because those bad boys certainly knew about them.
I'm really happy the order to fire one never came down.
Changing the subject AND presuming my ignorance on a specific topic. LOL
You don't like being called on your wild claims. That's obvious. Too bad. So sad.
That's what it's all about.
In the future bother to check out the links in the thread before you open your piehole, eh?!
I have a relative who flew on bombers during bomb testing. He is having all sorts of health problems due to that. He was on one when a lambskin coat caught on fire in the cockpit.
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