Posted on 04/05/2022 8:12:18 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables
It should be easy to find out what really happened to the massacred civilians in the Ukrainian town.
The truth about Bucha is out there, but perhaps too inconvenient to be discovered A woman walks in Bucha, in the outskirts of Kyiv, Ukraine, Sunday, April 3, 2022.
“In war, truth is the first casualty.” This quote has been attributed to Aeschylus, a 6th BCE Greek tragedian noted for his “copious use of imagery, mythic allusion, grand language, wordplay and riddles.” It is only fitting, therefore, that the man who first gave word to the concept of modern-day war-time propaganda would see his quote come to life in the present-day Ukraine. The Kiev government and their Western information warfare advisers may have coopted all of Aeschylus’ playwright devices to craft a modern-day tragedy in the Ukrainian town of Bucha that exemplifies the notion of the lie as not just a byproduct, but also a weapon of war.
The main source of the Bucha tragedy reports is a videotape, taken by the Ukrainian National Police, of one of their convoys driving through a street in the town. A dozen or so corpses litter the roadway, many of them appearing to have been bound. This video has gone viral...
... The linkage between the dead and the Russian military was established immediately, without any fact-based data to back it up, and subsequently echoed in all forms of media... ... Social “preconditioning” of an audience unused to critical thinking is an essential step in getting this audience to accept at face value anything that is put before it, regardless of how egregiously the facts of the story strain credulity. And let’s be clear – the Ukrainian narrative of the events in Bucha seems to stretch credibility...
(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...
But Scott is very smart, a straight shooter, and he HATES Trump and anything MAGA. So if anything, he's biased towards dems. But read for yourself, before commenting lol.
I also just wanted to see the Ukrainian Propaganda Team here explode their collective heads. You'll know them by A) not reading mthe article, and B)They will scream "Putin Stooge" without thought.
Pass the popcorn!
“The truth about what happened in Bucha is out there, waiting to be discovered. Unfortunately, that truth appears to be inconvenient for those in a position to pursue it aggressively through a forensics-based, on-site investigation. If it so happens that it eventually emerges that the Ukrainian National Police murdered Ukrainian civilians for the crime of allegedly collaborating with the Russians during their brief occupation of Bucha, and the forces of international law are brought to bear against the true perpetrators of that crime, any true pursuit of justice would have to include both the US and UK governments as witting co-conspirators in any crime charged. “
Spot. On.
Hopefully this thread will stay up. Let’s see if the Ukraine Propaganda Team can kill it. They’ll sure try.
I just want to see the russophiles never give up for their hero Putin.
Y’all are so loyal.
Scott Ritter is a winner /s
What does Russia have to gain by killing bound civilians? If the Russians were carpet bombing cities and depopulating Ukraine…I might believe it. But they have been quite restrained in their mission.
People believe what they want to believe.
We can’t even find out the truth about Hunters laptop so we don’t hold out much hope for Bucha either.
Well, who invaded and started a war in truth about Bucha?
Who destroyed all those buildings?
Zero points for the Russians !
… even IF (and a big if) someone is attempting to frame them.
They shouldn’t be there.
They should not have started this war !
The news paints it as policy to slay all live people—it states that Putin himself came and shot them, laughing as they fell. This smacks of Propaganda BUT—it could be true. Maybe these Ukrainians were fighting Russians, feeding them poison or other thing—the soldiers snapped and took out their rage upon prisoners—possible. There is much we do not know and may never know. War is hell. This is done to get Americans to put boots on the ground and save Ukraine—that or a No Fly Zone over that land—and shoot down the Russian air force. War is good for the Democratic Party and business.
“If it so happens that it eventually emerges that the Ukrainian National Police murdered Ukrainian civilians for the crime of allegedly collaborating with the Russians during their brief occupation of Bucha, and the forces of international law are brought to bear against the true perpetrators of that crime, any true pursuit of justice would have to include both the US and UK governments as witting co-conspirators in any crime charged. “
Not quite. Wait till it is proved in a court of law. In the meantime, who are the perpetrators? The premise is unfounded.”True pursuit?” Another unfounded premise.
There is a lot of evidence of the killing of civilians by Russian troops. That evidence includes still images, videos, satellite photos, eyewitness testimony, and much more. The Putin propaganda team here will deny all of it, claiming it must be fake, and we can't trust our own eyes and ears.
Yup, blue arm bands.
“War is hell. This is done to get Americans to put boots on the ground and save Ukraine—that or a No Fly Zone over that land—and shoot down the Russian air force. War is good for the Democratic Party and business.”
+100
“Well, who invaded and started a war in truth about Bucha?”
When it comes to war crimes there are no allowance for who started it.
Either side can commit the crime.
“The Putin propaganda team here will deny all of it, claiming it must be fake, and we can’t trust our own eyes and ears.”
Nonsense.
Everybody knows the Russians are killing Ukrainians as hard and fast as they can. Well, at least in pursuit of their objectives. Because smart people know they could kill ALL of them if they wanted them dead.
Anyone who denies that denies reality.
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