Posted on 03/18/2007 4:45:31 PM PDT by Condor 63
SAN VICENTE, Bolivia --On a November afternoon 99 years ago, two American outlaws straggled into this forlorn mining town, 14,500 feet above sea level, and sought lodging in an adobe hut. They didn't know that a posse in hot pursuit had already settled in another hut and soon would get word of the Americans' arrival.
A shootout ensued. It ended when the wounded Americans made a desperate dash out of their hiding place, guns blazing, only to run into volleys of gunfire from Bolivian troops lying in wait.
That, at any rate, is how Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid met their end in the Academy Award-winning 1969 movie starring Paul Newman and Robert Redford. The reality, investigators who have combed contemporary accounts now believe, is a little different.
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Little did Harry Longabaugh know that his nickname would be used as the biggest anti-US liberal freak film fest this side of creation.
LOL - it probably wouldn't bother him as much as that hot lead in his behind, but your point is well taken...
Yeah, a lot of life is like that.
And with Redford and Newman in the same film, it was a liberal freak-fest.
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On the Trail of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
http://www.boliviaweb.com/outsiders/butch.htm
Did Butch Cassidy Return? His Family Can't Decide
Copyright © 1998 & 2001 by Daniel Buck & Anne Meadows
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/danne/parker.htm
Butch Cassidy's Boyhood Home
http://www.so-utah.com/no89/butch/homepage.html
History of Butch Cassidy, LeRoy Parker
http://www.utah.com/oldwest/butch_cassidy.htm
Butch Cassidy
http://www.media.utah.edu/UHE/c/CASSIDY,BUTCH.html
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
http://hometown.aol.com/Gibson0817/butch.htm
http://ourworld.cs.com/dnpernst/
http://ourworld.cs.com/dnpernst/index_files/image001.jpg
Harry A. Longabaugh, alias the Sundance Kid, aka Harry Place, shown here with his wife Ethel, aka Etta Place. This photo was taken @ January, 1901, at the DeYoung Photography Studio, located at 826 Broadway in New York City, probably as a Wedding momento. The picture then became part of the Pinkerton Detective Agency picture gallery. A copy was mailed by Sundance to his friend David Gillespie back in Wyoming, in a letter stating that this was his wife who he had met on a previous trip to Texas.
Outlaw Women: Etta Place
http://www.outlawwomen.com/EttaPlace.htm
http://www.outlawwomen.com/EttaPlace_Sundance.jpg
http://www.outlawwomen.com/WildBunch.jpg
Many historians believe Etta had a daughter named Bettie after her return to the United States. In late 1971, while laying on her deathbed, Bettie allegedly whispered to her husband, "Mother may still be living. She remarried and may have had other children."
Etta Place
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/WWplaceE.htm
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/WWplaceE.jpg
Etta Place: A Most Wanted Woman
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/danne/etta.htm
Who was Etta Place?
http://ndnd.essortment.com/ettaplacebutch_rnmb.htm
The Elusive Etta Place
http://www.suite101.com/lesson.cfm/19285/2827/2
What's Up With All These Names?
http://www.blm.gov/heritage/HE_Kids/etta_rev1.htm
The start of "the bad guys are the good guys" genre.
Sundance Kid und Etta Place vor dem Blockhaus in Patagonien
http://www.hvra.com.ar/debutch.htm
http://www.hvra.com.ar/hvrajpgs/bc+sk-06.jpg
http://www.wyomingtalesandtrails.com/butch4.html
A. G. Francis... was working on a dredge on the Rio de San Juan where the two camped. However, Francis believed that the two killed in killed in Bolivia were Kid Curry and Butch Cassidy. Seibert identified the place of demise in San Vicente.
"Bub" Meeks, a gang member, was a distant cousin of mine.
There were and remain today many Meeks family members in Utah and Wyoming.
Seldom mentioned: Butch's parents came from England--Mormon converts, as were people on one side of Bub's family.
I don't want this to get into the hands of the anti-Mitt gang, lest all Mormons be branded as scoundrels, bank robbers, or worst of all whiskey drinkers and cigar smokers.
http://www.butchandsundance.com/players/bubmeeks.htm
http://www.wyomingtalesandtrails.com/butch4a.html
...Hinkle's claims as to meeting Butch and Sundance in Argentina cannot, however, be totally dismissed out-of-hand. Hinkle in his claims mentions Andrew Duffy. The claims were made prior to investigations by others revealing that there was in fact a Duffy in Argentina. Duffy is not mentioned, as an example, by Charles Kelly in his The Outlaw Trail. Thus, if Hinkle did not have first hand knowldge, the question must be asked, how did Hinkle know of Duffy? ...According to Milt Hinkle, Andrew Duffy, mentioned above, was in fact Harvey Logan. Hinkle claims that, as Duffy, Logan later married and worked as foreman on a ranch owned by an Englishman, Reginald Casey, and died in 1941 near Bahia Blanca. As previously noted there was an Andrew Duffy who had appeared in Argentina in 1905. In Chubut Provence there was also a rancher named Edmundo Reginaldo Casey y Browne. Sr. Sepúlveda also believes that Duffy was in reality Logan. Most likely, Duffy was a small-time rustler from Montana who, with Ed Shufelt, purchased the Valley Saloon in Saco, Montana, in 1902, using proceeds from the sale of rustled Montana horses north of the border in Saskatchewan... It is believed that Duffy was killed in 1910 near the border of Argentina and Chile by Robert Evans and another English-speaking pistolero, Mansel Gibbon.
Laura Bullion (Wiki-Wacky-pedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Bullion
Under the name of "Freda Lincoln", Bullion spent the remainder of her life in Memphis, Tennessee, where she worked as a seamstress and a dress maker, and becoming a housewife. She died there in 1961, the last of the Wild Bunch gang.
http://historytogo.utah.gov/salt_lake_tribune/in_another_time/101093.html
"I thought to myself I probably wouldn't see another car that day, so I pulled him over and wrote out a warning ticket. The driver--he was alone--didn't say much, as I recall, just took the ticket and went on his way," Johnson said. Trooper Johnson continued his patrol and at the end of shift turned his car toward Kanab and headed home. As he pulled into his driveway, he was mildly surprised to see the California car parked near the house. "My wife and I were living with her father at the time," he said. "When I walked into the house, I saw my father-in-law, John Kitchen, talking to the man I'd written the ticket to earlier in the day. The fellow was startled to see me. I was wearing my uniform, you know and he made a move to get up from the chair, when John said, It's all right; it's my son-in-law, he lives here; he's OK.'"
After the initial confusion passed, John Kitchen made a remarkable announcement: "Merrill, this here's an old friend of the family, Bob Parker--Butch Cassidy--he was passing through and dropped in to say hello. Butch, this is my son-in-law, Merrill Johnson, and that's my daughter, Ramona, in the kitchen."
...Having been thus introduced by his father-in-law, Johnson sat down with the two old-timers and listened as they traded reminiscences about the days of their youth in Utah. The Kitchens, John and his father before him, John G., worked the East Nipple Ranch in the Paria River area northeast of Kanab in the 1880s. That's where they first met the Parkers as cowboy ranch hands. "Cassidy told us he'd been in Bolivia, I remember that much of the conversation," Johnson said, "but meeting him wasn't such a big deal then; he had been out of the news for years and years.
I recall he said he'd been in an automobile accident in California and spent some time in a hospital, I believe he said in the Los Angeles area, and that he had only just been released. He was on his way to see his brother, Bill Parker, in Fredonia just over the Arizona line. Then he decided to stop in and see the Kitchens," Johnson said.
"They talked for hours," Ramona Johnson remembered. "I walked in and sat down to listen for a time, then I went to bed. I didn't pay close attention. But it was definitely Butch Cassidy. My father knew him well."
"He spent that night with us," Johnson said, "and the next morning I drove him in the patrol car, over to Fredonia to see his brother. Butch stayed, and I went to work. His car was still at our place in Kanab, and his brother drove him over later that day. He told me, Butch did, that he only wanted to see Bill Parker, and he wasn't planning to go to Circleville or anything. When he drove away later, he said he was on his way to Wyoming.
And that's all I remember, except that I've tried to find the copy of that ticket, and I couldn't. I even went up to Salt Lake to check through the records there, but since it was a warning citation, Cassidy wouldn't have had to appear. I do recall it was written on July 17, 1941. And I really don't remember the name he gave me at Mount Carmel Junction. I even may have told him later at the house to forget the ticket. I don't recall. There's no question that it was Butch Cassidy, I saw photos of him later, and they were the same fellow. When the movie 'Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid' came out and caused all the fuss about him, I tried to tell the newspapers what had happened in '41, but no one was interested." Merrill Johnson died in Kanab last March.
I saw them having lunch with Elvis just last week.
That was a fun movie, and who cares whether it was fact or fiction, hehehe.
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