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In ambulance, survivors of S.F. tiger attack made pact of silence
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | January 5, 2008 | Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 01/05/2008 4:26:41 AM PST by repinwi

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To: CitizenM

There was an independent review done in 1999 - the chron referenced it in an earlier article - http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/budanalyst/zoo/1_1animalmanagement.pdf I have not seen any documented facts - in either this report or mtg minutes, that any agency or individual ever pointed out a deficiency in the tiger exhibit - so I can’t yet feel compelled to point a “you should have known” finger at the SF zoo...just my humble opinion of course...


21 posted on 01/05/2008 5:31:44 AM PST by repinwi (Don't squat with your spurs on.)
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To: repinwi

“Don’t tell them what we did”?? Now why would someone say that if, as some here keep insisting, they’d done nothing wrong?


22 posted on 01/05/2008 5:37:54 AM PST by MizSterious (Deport all the illegals to sanctuary cities.)
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To: repinwi

Yeh right...They said it in front of a paramedic....


23 posted on 01/05/2008 5:42:08 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: samtheman
"Responsible for their friend's death. "

I know it would be hard to prove, but I'd like to see the two "friends" (who didn't even bother to call the dead fellow's family afterwards) sued into oblivion.

24 posted on 01/05/2008 5:42:08 AM PST by MizSterious (Deport all the illegals to sanctuary cities.)
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To: samtheman

TIGRESS?


25 posted on 01/05/2008 5:45:29 AM PST by keving (When an Allegory is an AlGore')
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To: repinwi

No, they’re not at all responsible for the tiger getting out in any way whatsoever.

What are you crazy? It should in no way EVER be possible for a tiger to escape it’s confines.

What anyone did or didn’t do is completely irrelevant.


26 posted on 01/05/2008 5:45:49 AM PST by DogandPonyShow (America, the Light of the World.)
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To: keving

Right. Tigress. Though I don’t think the sex of a tormented animal is crucially important. But yes, I got that wrong.


27 posted on 01/05/2008 5:50:15 AM PST by samtheman (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: DogandPonyShow

This is the reason people like me are so fed up with these punks, Mark Geragos, and this ridiculous “blame everyone but yourself, and sue for millions” society we are living in now. You and others who cry “it’s the zoo’s fault— they are liable” are the enablers for this bs. A guy was drunk and fell onto the subway tracks in Manhattan— he sued. An armed robber pulls a gun on a store clerk— he fires and misses— the clerk shoots him— he sues. A woman spills her coffee and burns herself—she sues McDonald’s— it goes on and on and on. These punks aided and abbetted that cat getting over that wall. They hold some responsibility.


28 posted on 01/05/2008 5:53:25 AM PST by repinwi (Don't squat with your spurs on.)
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To: repinwi

A zoo is supposed to be designed in such a way that a zoo animal cannot get out regardless of how angry it is.

Pretty much end of the discussion.

If it can be proven these guys were a contributory factor, they should be punished, but this has nothing whatsoever to do with the zoo’s responsibility.

I agree with those who mourn the death of the tigress.


29 posted on 01/05/2008 6:06:02 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: repinwi

I hate it that the tiger was killed after demonstrating Darwinism at its best.


30 posted on 01/05/2008 6:10:56 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: Sherman Logan
Agreed with your post, especially when this specific tiger had already attacked its trainer almost one year earlier. This tiger, as if any are, was not known to be docile.

Wild animals are caged to protect the public.....in reality, the public was not protected any better than the caretaker this tiger previously attacked.

31 posted on 01/05/2008 6:13:17 AM PST by nicmarlo
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The caretaker put her arm in the cage while the tiger was eating. Any prudent person knows you don’t even mess with a dog while they are feeding and here we have a wild animal. The caretaker should have known better. That’s why they didn’t receive any money from their lawsuit. They were at fault, not the tiger.


32 posted on 01/05/2008 6:15:44 AM PST by repinwi (Don't squat with your spurs on.)
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To: DogandPonyShow

“It should in no way EVER be possible for a tiger to escape it’s confines.”

Well, no tiger escaped in over 60 years from that pit.

What was different THIS TIME?

The rush of adrenalin can enable any creature to do the most amazing and unbelievable things.


33 posted on 01/05/2008 6:16:28 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: repinwi

Notice also that the young man who was killed went back to aid one of these bottom feeders who was being attacked. When the tiger turned her attention to the ultimate victum, the two brothers took off and offered him no help.

What we have here are two worthless pieces of human trash that should be prosecuted for murder. And get a damned search warrant to get in their phones and other items. Its not rocket science.


34 posted on 01/05/2008 6:16:53 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: repinwi
Think about it.

Should it be physically impossible for the tiger to get out of it’s confines under any conceivable or unconceivable circumstances or situations? Yes or no.

Come on...I’d beat those guys with a thick leather strap or cane if I could (except the dead one of course...I guess) BUT NO WAY SHOULD THAT TIGER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET OUT!

What if the tiger had killed an innocent child during this incident? Wouldn't’t the zoo be liable for that?

35 posted on 01/05/2008 6:20:53 AM PST by DogandPonyShow (America, the Light of the World.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

This looks like a case for the world’s most amoral and sleazy opportunist Mark Geragos.


36 posted on 01/05/2008 6:22:06 AM PST by Vinomori
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To: UCANSEE2
I don’t care if they replaced all of the tigers blood with pure adrenaline. It should not have been able to escape it’s confines under ANY circumstances.

Now, I would have beaten those boys with a leather strap if I could of but that’s a separate matter. The wild, dangerous, killing animal should NEVER be able to be on the loose.

The zoo is liable.

37 posted on 01/05/2008 6:23:32 AM PST by DogandPonyShow (America, the Light of the World.)
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To: samtheman
The crime was probably not a felony,

How much is a tiger worth on the open market (hint - thousands)? If you could find a statute that makes them culpable for the ultimate destruction of the tiger, they are then guilty of felony property damage. Link their friend's death to the commission of a felony, Bob's your uncle, they're convicted of his murder, too.

Yes, I watch way too much "Law and Order".

38 posted on 01/05/2008 6:23:45 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: DogandPonyShow

How does one TEST for all conditions to include the actions of ill willed people in order to ensure they have adequately “protected” the general population?


39 posted on 01/05/2008 6:24:12 AM PST by repinwi (Don't squat with your spurs on.)
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To: samtheman

I agree. It’s unfortunate that there were no cameras anywhere, although, if these boys had been caught, I doubt that the punishment would have been too severe.


40 posted on 01/05/2008 6:25:56 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan ("When you can't make them see the light; make them feel the heat." President Ronald Reagan)
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