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DNA evidence uncovers major upheaval in Europe near end of last Ice Age
Phys dot org ^ | February 4, 2016 | Current Biology, Cell Press

Posted on 02/08/2016 11:24:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv

DNA evidence lifted from the ancient bones and teeth of people who lived in Europe from the Late Pleistocene to the early Holocene -- spanning almost 30,000 years of European prehistory -- has offered some surprises, according to researchers who report their findings in the Cell Press journal Current Biology on Feb. 4, 2016. Perhaps most notably, the evidence shows a major shift in the population around 14,500 years ago, during a period of severe climatic instability...

The researchers pieced this missing history together by reconstructing the mitochondrial genomes of 35 hunter-gatherer individuals who lived in Italy, Germany, Belgium, France, the Czech Republic, and Romania from 35,000 to 7,000 years ago. Mitochondria are organelles within cells that carry their own DNA and can be used to infer patterns of maternal ancestry...

The new data show that the mitochondrial DNA of three individuals who lived in present-day Belgium and France before the coldest period in the last Ice Age -- the Last Glacial Maximum -- belonged to haplogroup M. This is remarkable because the M haplogroup is effectively absent in modern Europeans but is extremely common in modern Asian, Australasian, and Native American populations.

The absence of the M haplogroup and its presence in other parts of the world had previously led to the argument that non-African people dispersed on multiple occasions to spread across Eurasia and Australasia. The researchers say the discovery of this maternal lineage in Europe in the ancient past now suggests instead that all non-Africans dispersed rapidly from a single population, at a time they place around 50,000 years ago. Then, at some later stage, the M haplogroup was apparently lost from Europe.

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TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; belgium; czechrepublic; france; germany; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; holocene; huntergatherers; italy; mhaplogroup; mitochondria; mtdna; pleistocene; romania
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A photograph of les Closeaux at Rueil-Malmaison, Paris Basin, France. Credit: L. Lang

A photograph of les Closeaux at Rueil-Malmaison, Paris Basin, France. Credit: L. Lang

1 posted on 02/08/2016 11:25:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: blam; martin_fierro

M haplogroup, part of Haplo’s History... /rimshot


2 posted on 02/08/2016 11:27:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Your posts always make me think.


3 posted on 02/08/2016 11:29:16 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SunkenCiv
the descendants of the hunter-gatherers who survived through the Last Glacial Maximum were largely replaced by a population from another source

It started as diversity and didn't end well.

4 posted on 02/08/2016 11:34:38 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: SpaceBar

That fish sauce really makes me stink. ;’) Thanks SpaceBar!


5 posted on 02/08/2016 11:39:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: MUDDOG

“Diversity” is and always has been synonymous with “here come the barbarians”.


6 posted on 02/08/2016 11:40:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Even back then there was white privilege. ;-)


7 posted on 02/08/2016 11:41:58 PM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: SunkenCiv

thanks for the post, SunkenCiv


8 posted on 02/09/2016 12:01:32 AM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Europe was a tough place to live during the Ice Age compared to areas further South and Ice Age Europeans were a relatively small population compared to populations from more temperate regions further south..

As the climate improved, the larger populations moved in and displaced or assimilated the Ice Age Europeans.

9 posted on 02/09/2016 12:11:59 AM PST by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Miller)
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s all quite understandable. My two-headed turtle is writing their third book which somewhat deals with this topic at hand. Originally, in Sundaland and outlying areas it was known as Mu, the Motherland of humanity. Those peoples spread out throughout the world. Westward to eventual Europe and Eastward towards the Americas. Around 70Kya the Toba Event destroyed much of humanity, except for the Odzum-mi which were the first humans living in where is now present day Flores Island in Indonesia. I won’t get into it all here...but it is pretty fascinating listening to the boys explain it all.

I do the typing for them for two reasons. One is turtles can’t spell worth beans and another is they make a mess walking all over the keyboard and knocking over the pencil can and what not. So we have an agreement of sorts.


10 posted on 02/09/2016 12:16:15 AM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: abigkahuna

I wouldn’t trust anything the turtle(s) have to say. They are probably all out for Jeb. ;-)


11 posted on 02/09/2016 12:20:25 AM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: r_barton
Even back then there was white privilege. ;-)

I wonder if the Muzzies were already thinking of invading at that time.

12 posted on 02/09/2016 2:22:14 AM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: abigkahuna

That is remarkable! )


13 posted on 02/09/2016 3:21:51 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: abigkahuna

Interesting. I had never heard of Toba before.

It makes me wonder what will be the effect if a supervolcano (like Yellowstone?) erupts. No doubt, there will be catastrophic death tolls.


14 posted on 02/09/2016 3:31:58 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: SunkenCiv

“during a period of severe climatic instability...”

Ancient SUV’s to blame.


15 posted on 02/09/2016 3:33:44 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The English stole the Indian’s land in England!


16 posted on 02/09/2016 3:36:22 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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To: abigkahuna; SunkenCiv

You should never have fed those turtles that tainted alphabet soup. Ergot, we wouldn’t have such fantastical tales from them.


17 posted on 02/09/2016 3:37:47 AM PST by disndat
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To: disndat

Y’know, speakin’ of that, I never did get around to posting the story about the prehistoric turtle soup.


18 posted on 02/09/2016 4:08:41 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Diversity” is a hope. Hope is not a strategy and will not replace a good plan. So all those people out there singing the praises of diversity should take a good look around.


19 posted on 02/09/2016 4:09:02 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: SunkenCiv

Fascinating. This stuff needs to filter into Biblical exegesis at some point.

This article as well: http://phys.org/news/2013-10-european-hunter-gatherers-immigrant-farmers-side-by-side.html#jCp

“This contact was not without consequences, because hunter-gatherer women sometimes married into the farming communities, while no genetic lines of farmer women have been found in hunter-gatherers”, explained Burger. “This pattern of marriage is known from many studies of human populations in the modern world. Farmer women regarded marrying into hunter-gatherer groups as social demotion.”

What immediately springs to mind is: “The sons of God seeing the daughters of men, that they were fair, took to themselves wives of all which they chose.”

If the sons of God are the agriculturalist line of Adam in the Neolithic East, and if the daughters of men are the hunter-gatherer indigenous populations.


20 posted on 02/09/2016 4:15:22 AM PST by Claud
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