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Traces of ancient humans found in Vietnam's biggest archaeological discovery
Thanh Nien News ^ | Monday, April 04, 2016 | Tran Hieu,

Posted on 04/06/2016 5:53:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

In what has been described as a breakthrough, Vietnamese and Russian archaeologists have found valuable artifacts in the Central Highlands province of Gia Lai that they say belonged to ancient humans around 800,000 years ago.

The traces of homo erectus or "upright man," including fossils and more than 200 stone tools, were discovered at 12 locations around An Khe Town, according to the findings announced by the scientists on Friday.

It was "the biggest and most important" archeological discovery not only for Vietnam but Asia, Dr. Nguyen Giang Hai, chief of Vietnam's Institute of Archeology, told Tuoi Tre newspaper.

The Russian team worked with the Vietnamese institute on the two-year excavation. The archaeologists are expected to organize an international conference to publish the findings to the world.

Huynh Nu Thu Ha, vice chairwoman of the People's Committee of Gia Lai, said the province will launch a project to preserve the relic sites.

(Excerpt) Read more at thanhniennews.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; homoerectus; vietnam
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A display of some relics allegedly belonging to ancient humans living around 80,000 years ago in the northern province Gia Lai. Photo: Tran Hieu

A display of some relics allegedly belonging to ancient humans living around 80,000 years ago in the northern province Gia Lai. Photo: Tran Hieu

1 posted on 04/06/2016 5:53:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 04/06/2016 5:54:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

If id didn’t have traces of humans it wouldn’t be much of an archaeological discovery now, would it?


3 posted on 04/06/2016 5:57:57 AM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: SunkenCiv

How many were leading transgender lives? None you say. So, we consider them the neanderthals.


4 posted on 04/06/2016 5:58:33 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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5 posted on 04/06/2016 6:02:07 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING ’VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: SunkenCiv

80,000 or 800,000 years ago?


6 posted on 04/06/2016 6:18:48 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: JoeProBono

any transgenders :)


7 posted on 04/06/2016 6:19:14 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: SunkenCiv
I'm a fairly competent lithic technologist -- but, I'd have to handle and examine those specimens --personally -- to see if I detect any clues that they were modified by "humanoids".

From what I can see in that photo, they look exactly like -- rocks...

8 posted on 04/06/2016 6:28:36 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah: Satan's current alias. "Obama": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA
From what I can see in that photo, they look exactly like -- rocks...

That's what I was thinking.

9 posted on 04/06/2016 6:32:22 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: luvbach1

800K


10 posted on 04/06/2016 6:45:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: TXnMA

Yeah, they definitely are rocks. :’)


11 posted on 04/06/2016 6:45:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: libertylover; SunkenCiv
At that stage of human/lithic technology development, the only stone-working tool in use was the "hard hammer" (another rock).

Impact by a hard hammer depends on 60-degree shockwave propagation to detach flakes. (Like a BB hitting glass...)

The remaining "scar" is a distinctive, "shell-shaped" ("conchoidal") depression radiating from the point of impact -- that looks very much like a clam shell.

And, the detached flake has matching, distinctive "bump" on it (called the "bulb of percussion". And, you can often see/feel shockwave "ripples" on the surfaces:

They are easy to see -- and even easier to feel with the fingers...

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And, only a fast-moving hard object (hard-hammer blow) produces a conchoidal scar. No natural process has been shown to produce them.

A couple of minutes "hands-on" with those specimens would suffice to determine if they are "just rocks" or not.

12 posted on 04/06/2016 7:16:15 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah: Satan's current alias. "Obama": Allah's current ally...)
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To: libertylover; TXnMA

FOOLS! THEY’RE RELICS! [/s]

Yeah, they look like big rocks to me too. I’d have to see something else there to be impressed.


13 posted on 04/06/2016 7:16:40 AM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: TXnMA

Are those big boulders the surrounding material for the fossil remains? A tooth, a bit of jawbone, a fragment of a skull or of an ulna? Leave it in the rock, exposed and they can’t call it fake.

They’re too darned big to have been used as tools, except as an anvil to beat up other stuff on. Or maybe tools were flaked off of them.

Interesting, in any case.


14 posted on 04/06/2016 7:18:13 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: TXnMA

And they’re pretty. :’)


15 posted on 04/06/2016 7:33:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: JimRed

No, as I interpret the photo, the big rocks may be displayed as “cores” from which flakes — to be used as tools — were detached, using hard-hammer percussion.


16 posted on 04/06/2016 7:43:16 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah: Satan's current alias. "Obama": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

Archeological thanks.


17 posted on 04/06/2016 8:00:16 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: SunkenCiv

Uh-oh. Are those elongated alien heads I see?

Better call Giorgio Tsoukalos for a reading.


18 posted on 04/06/2016 10:45:15 AM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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To: SunkenCiv
I puzzles me that, excluding some bad experiences around An Khe in 1966, why humans would wander out of Africa, even really ancient, ones to settle in such a horrid place thousands of miles from the ancestral home.

I was thinking Moslem Anthopithcanies gone mad with Jihad.

Why would anyone, in their right mind, such as they may have had in that day and age, leave readily available Wildebeest and other readily available warm furry dinners to battle malaria in the highland of VN.

To my mind, such as I have left, am thinking that there is some serious problems with the Idea of human of human migrations. (Thanks Blam and others.)

I am beginning to to think that we haven't a censored clue about human origins or migrations.

19 posted on 04/06/2016 12:08:20 PM PDT by Little Bill (o)
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To: SunkenCiv

80,000 years ago -> 800,000 years ago?


20 posted on 04/06/2016 1:51:32 PM PDT by SteveH
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