A large piece of his upper right skull hung by skin on his face.
Posted on 10/26/2017 6:37:29 PM PDT by barmag25
The U.S. government has finally begun releasing its last files pertaining to the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
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Because Oswald is related to Paddock and they both flew to Area 51 from the JANET terminal. /s
But even the Commies didn’t want Oswald. He tried to hook up with the Commies, but he was such a loser they didn’t want him for anything.
If nothing else, Oswald was a pathetic LOSER.
Tragically one of the only true “accomplishments” in his miserable loser life was killng JFK.
The last of the documents are being reviewed to ensure removal of individual people’s names, addresses, private personal information. It’s nothing more than that. Even now, these people and their children and grandchildren are entitled to some personal privacy.
I’m quite familiar with the locale and informally interviewed a group of Cuban ex-pats that were on the peripheral of history unfolding at that time. Everything which I can recall from these conversations in the ‘70’s, has been confirmed from what I’ve read from the current JFK research databases.
In essence, the ‘old world’ -pre-internet has confirmed what modern researchers have dug out from decades of document disclosure. They discussed several of the failed Mongoose attempts which additionally validates their level of insider knowledge.
It’s a small world after all.
He was shot from front, back of head blew out into trunk, yet LHO wES behind him. How anyone could believe LHO acted alone baffles me.
A large piece of his upper right skull hung by skin on his face.
Read the current editions of “Case Closed” by Gerald Posner and “Reclaiming History” by Vincent Bugliosi. Both books thoroughly explain each bullet fired, it’s trajectory and total path. All shots came from Oswald from a upper story window in the book depository. Everything else regarding the bullets is rumor, speculation, and “witness” claims proven to be absolutely wrong. The evidence is very clear. Read the books.
I can appreciate your close envolvement and frustration. May God bless you . I feel your frustration . Something is very wrong in this country with the government. I honestly fear we have little time.Trump is our only a ndladt shot. Thst is why i am dissappointed .
He is trapped into covering up for the russian envolvement in the kennedy assassination. It fills the false narrative. There is no other explaination of this.
That much is true, LHO lacked the intellect to pass as a Russian, much less a KGB spy. He was persona non grata to the Soviets.
If I had my own theory, it might be that Oswald was groomed as an useful idiot by the CIA. He would be molded by his handlers for whatever job they felt necessary.
His USSR trip & Ruskie wife could be used to blame the USSR.
His Mexico City/Cuban embassy trip could be used to blame Castro.
If he had been actually working for either govm’t, they would have seen to his escape or death prior to capture. Instead, he gets popped by a low-life mob associate while in custody. The final untimely coincidence of his ‘solo plan.’
There’s a completely separate document FOIA request on the CIA agent Joannides file. It has been blocked for 14 years. His propaganda campaign and psy-ops project at JMWAVE would likely fill in much of the missing pieces of this puzzle.
The Conspiracy buffs will simply say “the autopsy photos are altered”. They’re never going to give up on their theories.
Jack Ruby was a low life bar/strip club owner, he liked JFK a lot and was very upset that someone killed “my president.” He also was “friends” with many police officers in the downtown Dallas police precinct.
As irresponsible and ridiculous as it seems now, Ruby had a habit of dropping in and wanderng around the downtown police precinct office, visiting his “friends,” getting into secure areas where he shouldn’t have been in. He routinely carried a concealed hand gun because his strip club business. I’m sure the Dallas police knew and didn’t care if he carried his gun into the precinct office. In 1963, this kind of lack of security was not uncommon. These were much more innocent less violent times.
Ruby found out through chit chat with the police that they were going to move Oswald, and Ruby found out which path the police would take as they escorted Oswald. Ruby, because of his “friends” in the police department, was allowed to stand in the passageway where Oswald walked by, he had asked if he could see Oswald. His good old boy police friends let him, they didn’t see the harm.
So when Ruby shot Oswald, it was a shock and EXTREME embarassment for the police, their good old boy lax security measures led to Ruby shootng Oswald. I have no doubt that they scrambled and probably at first tried to cover up their negligence in maintaining security around Oswald.
Jack Ruby was another loser who puffed himself up because he could freely wander in and out of the police offices in Dallas. He impulsively and angrily shot Oswald, he liked JFK a lot.
Again, go back and read the current editions of “Case Closed” and “Reclaiming History”. Both books thoroughly debunk the notion that Ruby shot Oswald on behalf of others (and specifically the Mafia) who were part of a larger cover-up conspiracy.
Not likely, at least one person who knew him made it very clear he spoke very fluent Russian. If he did seem like he lacked intellect, he was most likely faking it.
And besides, Pacepa made very clear he was married to a KGB Colonel’s niece and also had a Historic Diary.
Moving car. Moving target. Cheap rifle. Malfunctioning scope.
“I’m sure the Dallas police knew and didn’t care if he [Ruby] carried his gun into the precinct office.” <—That’s absurd, given the alarming stress and tension of the day.
Jack Ruby:
Jack shouldn’t have been needed since Oswald should have been already executed. He was likely meant to be killed at the theater or some point earlier in the hour following his departure from the TSBD.
When the plan failed, the organizers got in contact with their former partners in the Op-Mongoose plots and set in motion a clean-up guy. The urgency escalated when Oswald attempted the call to John Hurt (CIA -Raleigh NC.) Since Jack Ruby had been stalking around the DPD for two days, even posing as a reporter at a press conference (unchallenged) he became the man of the hour.
Ruby accessed the prime suspect to the president’s murder with cooperation from the DPD. The ease by which Ruby gained entry into the DPD basement to kill Oswald was quite the camouflage job sold to the Warren Commission. The HSCA report on the DPD handling will clearlt contradicts the WCR.
Burt Griffin indicated it was BS and suspected that DPD Pat Dean, chief of security, was deceitful in his testimony regarding Ruby’s accessibility. Griffin sent a memo to Warren questioning Dean’s BS story. The Dallas Police responded along with the DA’s office and pressured Warren who eventually backed down and abandoned Griffin. Griffin’s suspicions were later validated.
The HSCA found out Dean lied about Ruby’s entry into the basement. Vaughn, the WC witness, pinned Ruby’s opportune entry entirely on the DPD and passed his polygraph test affirming these facts. OTH, Dean failed his own polygraph test whereby as chief of security, he had posed his own line of questioning, lol.
The DPD kept a key witness, Sgt. Flusche, away from the WC and Burt Griffin. Flusche had stood directly across the street from the ramp and Vaughn. Flusche knew Jack Ruby and told the HSCA it was impossible for Jack Ruby to have been in the proximity of the ramp prior to Oswald being escorted out by DPD.
During the actual film of Oswald being killed, there’s an odd occurrence within the movement of the DPD. Just as LHO steps from the elevator and they march him out of the foyer, Fritz breaks the pre-designed protective pocket that had encircled Oswald. Fritz briskly strides 10’- 14’ ahead, providing ample space for Ruby to frontally attack-shoot Oswald. Not that it was necessarily premeditated, but it happened and Fritz’s reaction to the shots fired were delayed in comparison to the other officers surrounding LHO.
Without this opportune failure of security, it would have been impossible for Jack Ruby to have killed Oswald that day. There is no doubt that Ruby had been allowed to stalk around DPD looking for Oswald for two days. He can be seen lurking behind other DPD officers.
But alas, we are to believe it’s just one lucky lone nut executing another lone nut.
What are your ORIGINAL verified sources for what you are alleging? Where are the reputable bibiliographies?
Let me give you an example of a typical BS JFK Conspiracy Book: 1992’s “Conspiracy of Silence” (later renamed “Trauma Room One”) By Dr. Charles Crenshaw. It was a major sensation at the time because he claimed he treated JFK in Trauma Room One in Parklane Hospital, so whatever he had to say had to be true, right?
Except that many of his very significant claims were lies, and were proven to be lies. He changed his own stories/testimony when others started to investigate the claims in his book and started challenging them. His book had no credible bibliography to speak of. I bought the book and read it, it was a great camp fire ghost story.
Dr. Crenshaw was an opportunistic conspiracy promoter, and he lied/stretched the truth in order to sell books. He backed away from many of the things he had said in the book when others started researching, and were able to prove that many of his claims were impossible. Other doctors and staff in the hospital consistently contradicted what he claimed regarding where he was, who he was with, and at what time in the hospital the day of the assassination. His book was a NYT best seller at the time, but it has largely been discredited since then.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/crenshaw.htm
Here is a web page with source links showing how the “Consiracy of Silence” book is largely a bunch of baloney written by a dishonest opportunist trying to enrich himself off the JFK assassination.
I’ve never read a single JFK assassination book or watched a JFK related movie. So they are no force of persuasion. The actual records released prior to this day confirm that Lee was absolutely part of a larger plan and did not act-solo, in a vacuum.
I became interested when Sen. Cruz exited the stage after candidate Trump made a big deal of the NE article on Senior Cruz leafletting FPFCC literature in New Orleans. Additionally, I have some first hand accounts from the Cuban ex-pat community that were shared with me in the 70’s.
I’ve read and searched through these databases;
* JFK Facts.org and
* Mary Ferrell.org, has the largest online collection of JFK assassination records and the most concise guides to the JFK debate.
The Assassination Archives and Research Center leads the fight in federal court for full JFK disclosure.
But, I’d love to see the files compiled in relation to JMWAVE and Agent Joannides as they relate to JFK and also beyond that topic of interest. It will be interesting to see what the experts find in latest batch of documents.
So very, very true.
Sorry, there is nothing new that has come out, and there is no proof that Oswald was a part of an over-arching conspiracy.
I want to point out again that I originally was a JFK conspiracy buff. I probably read at least two dozen books on the subject. I was in third grade the day JFK.
Was Oswald a Communist? Yes. Did he try to offer his services to the Commies in Russia and Cuba? Yes, but he was a such a loser they didn’t want him for anything. Was his wife Russian? Yes. Did he speak Russian? Yes. Was the CIA watching/tracking him? Sort of, but not really, and THAT is their big embarrassment and attempted cover-up.
Again, if you want a coherent, scientific, well-researched body of evidence put together by professional historians and forensic scientists, you should read Case Closed and Reclaiming History. These books have huge bibiliographies which cite ORIGINAL SOURCES and evidence. There is no question that Oswald and Ruby acted alone. If you choose not to read these books and research the bibiliographies, then you really aren’t trying to get to the truth, you’re just looking for any snippet which will feed into the conclusions you drew a long time ago.
There are several reasons why the public at large won’t let go of the JFK conspiracy claims:
(1) Most people are one hundred percent ignorant, they only buy into what someone said that someone said that someone said. They’ve never researched anything, they don’t know anything.
(2) The JFK assassination conspiracy industry is a billion dollar plus industry. THOUSANDS of books/pamphlets have been written on the subject. Those enriching themselves promoting false conspiracy theories are not going to stop, they’re making lots of money.
(3) Conspiracy-chasing is fun. Conspiracies are mysteries combined with thrillers, those who like to chase conspiracies have a very interesting hobby.
(4) Finally, it is emotionally very difficult for most people to accept that a total LOSER acting alone could change the course of history by assassinating a U.S. president—and in the case of JFK, a beloved young handsome president. When a huge senseless tragedy occurs, it’s human nature not to want to accept that someone so stupid and small could by himself take down someone considered to be so great and historically significant.
People want a great moral counterweight to offset a huge senseless tragedy, that’s what they always reach out for, that’s what they cling to. But in the case of JFK, there is no great moral counterweight. There’s just a loser and a nobody who managed to “accomplish” one significant thing in his entire miserable loser life—killing JFK.
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