The Lost Treasure Of King Charles
Posted on 02/21/2018 7:20:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv
Exclusive reports of the discovery of King Charles I's coronation riches last night triggered a transatlantic treasure war involving two independent expeditions.
The group which claims to have found the wreck described the odds that it was the king's ferry as better than even.
However, San Diego-based diver Bill Warren, who heads a rival team, said: ''We have really done our homework on this and I am absolutely not convinced.''
Mr Warren, who formed a Scottish company, Golden Quest, for the project, said he had spent seven months dealing with various authorities, including the Crown Estates Commissioners, to secure permission to search the sea bed...
Mr Warren said the reported find of a 60ft by 12ft solid timber structure in 120ft of water one mile off Burntisland was highly unlikely to be the Blessing of Burntisland, which sank in 1633.
Previous quests for the Burntisland treasure have been marked by a degree of animosity between American and Scottish interests.
However, Mr Warren is proceeding with a treasure map on which the spot has been marked by a professor of oceanography at San Diego State University, Professor William Wallace.
Unlike others, Professor Wallace took account of the change from the Julian to Gregorian calendars to get the precise date of the sinking, and plotted this against the moon's position and tidal movements. ''I would have liked more precise details of the time the ferry left. But if I am correct, everyone else has been wrong because they have been looking in the wrong place,'' he said last night.
(Excerpt) Read more at heraldscotland.com ...
also from 1999:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/navy-finds-the-sunken-treasure-of-charles-i-1076866.html
by 2016, the wreck is still listed as lost.
more about the video linked in msg one:
http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/472004/Lost-Treasure-of-King-Charles-I-The/
When Charles I lost his head, the English crown jewels — some items perhaps dating back to Edward the Confessor — vanished.
Cromwell and the Crown jewels - what really became of England’s lost treasure?
Friday, 9 January 2015
http://unknowntemplar1.blogspot.com/2015/01/cromwell-and-crown-jewels-what-really.html
Apropo of nothing, “The Musgrave Ritual”, one of the Sherlock Holmes mysteries:
http://etc.usf.edu/lit2go/40/the-memoirs-of-sherlock-holmes/577/adventure-5-the-musgrave-ritual/
Wherever large sums of money are lawyers and politicians flock like seagulls. Here’s one locally that has been partially recovered but $40 million still remain. The flavors had to fight California all the way to the supreme court.
I forgot the link
Brother Jonathan (steamer)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Jonathan_(steamer)
I don’t doubt it. My favorite mealy-mouthed lie that they use is, “this should belong to the public”, IOW, line the pockets of the jokers who operate the wheels of gubmint.
His mother, Ann of Denmark, had a barge load of her dowry go down in the same waters 44 years earlier. Of the 800+ wrecks known to be down there, only 170 wreck sites have been identified. And in 2003, the Blessing of Burntisland had not been found four years earlier. :^ )
The search for treasure that’s rich in history
Published: 01:00 Wednesday 20 August 2003
https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/the-search-for-treasure-that-s-rich-in-history-1-890868
The Admiralty laws on flotsam, jetsam, debris, wrecks and treasure is pretty darn old. I wonder if they still try and follow it.
I know the government is pretty keen on treasure.
I think the litigation surrounding the Atocha discovery and recovery taught everyone a good lesson on how the laws are not exactly laws. Mel Fischer eventually prevailed in court, but there's no reason he should have had to go there.
There’s no doubt the finder gets a %. All the legal warfare is just the negotiations.
If the state had been interested in looking, nothing was stopping them. Instead, they looked like the highwaymen that they were.
Most of those laws date back to when Kings and Queens ruled. It’s no surprise it favors the State. But I just did some casual reading many years ago so I’ve no facts and just recalling.
Those laws were there to keep idiot rulers from going to war over things. (that usually works too) They also codified past practices. Lost your ship? Bummer. We live right there, and we’re going to be trying to fish stuff off the wreck, finders keepers. :^)
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