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What Happened to the Wealth of Crassus?
YouTube ^ | February 24, 2023 | Garrett Ryan, Ph.D as toldinstone

Posted on 02/27/2023 10:22:52 AM PST by SunkenCiv

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Chapters:
0:00 The wealth of the Roman elite
1:51 Investment strategies
2:20 Passing wealth to the next generation
3:23 Masterworks
4:58 It's tough being rich
6:21 Elite infertility
7:50 Infant mortality
8:57 The example of Crassus
9:32 Long-lasting families

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0:00·The
0:08·Roman aristocracy was rich.
0:12·Very rich. At a time when most families supported themselves on less than 1,000 sestertii a year,
0:20·Roman senators of the imperial era were required to have fortunes of at least a million,
0:25·and many were far wealthier. Crassus, worth a cool two hundred million, liked to say that no
0:32·man could call himself rich unless he was able to support an army with his private fortune.
0:39·Anecdotes about elite extravagance abound. We read about Roman magnates building private islands,
0:46·importing water from the Dead Sea for their private baths, sailing to Africa to sample the
0:51·local shrimp, and generally acting in ways that would make a Gilded Age tycoon blush.
0:58·Even during late antiquity, as the frontiers crumbled and cities burned,
1:03·the Roman aristocracy retained much of its wealth, building huge mansions like the villa
1:08·outside Piazza Armerina in Sicily, with its acres of mosaics. The last time I visited that building,
1:15·I found myself wondering what happened to the family that constructed it,
1:19·and whether any of the vast fortunes assembled by the Roman elite survived into the Middle Ages.
1:26·By one estimate, 90% of rich American families lose the bulk of their wealth
1:32·by the third generation. Even in the relatively stable British aristocracy, few families have
1:39·even a small fraction of the wealth they possessed in the late nineteenth century.
1:43·Modern fortunes, in short, are fragile. Wealth in the Roman world was even more fleeting.
1:51·Like most premodern elites, rich Romans kept most of their wealth in the form of land,
1:56·especially estates that produced such lucrative products as wine and olive oil.
2:03·But they also invested in urban real estate and dabbled in commerce, sponsored voyages as
2:09·far afield as Arabia and India, lent money at 12% interest to friends and associates,
2:15·and hired out their slaves as semi-independent craftsmen.
2:20·When a wealthy Roman died, his wealth normally passed to his heirs in accordance with the
2:26·provisions of his will. By law, any man with a legitimate son was required to name him the
2:32·primary heir, unless he had been formally disinherited. But there were often dozens,
2:38·even hundreds of other heirs, ranging from professional associates to newly-freed slaves.
2:45·Augustus instituted a 5% estate tax on money willed to anyone outside the deceased’s immediate
2:52·family. More onerous was the custom, dangerous to disregard, of willing a substantial portion
2:59·of one’s property to the reigning emperor. In general, Roman law and Roman society made
3:07·ample legal provision for the transfer of wealth from generation to generation.
3:12·The problem, as we’ll see, is that the next generation often didn’t exist. Before we explore
3:19·that, a brief word about this video’s sponsor. An indispensable sign of wealth in the
3:26·Roman world was a villa gleaming with bronze and marble statues.
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4:58·Although wealthy Romans had many avenues for investing their wealth and legally protected
5:03·means of transferring that wealth to their heirs, few Roman fortunes lasted more than two or three
5:09·generations. Part of the problem was extravagant spending. Politics were expensive, especially
5:17·during the Republic, when officials were expected to sponsor lavish games and entertainments.
5:23·Even under the emperors, when the stakes of politics were lower,
5:26·a single banquet for a priesthood might cost the host a million sestertii.
5:33·The Roman elite also dissipated their wealth in vast dowries and lavish purchases.
5:39·We read about men spending a million sestertii on a single table, buying crystal goblets that
5:45·cost more than most villas, and snapping up antique Greek statues like Fabergé eggs.
5:52·The fortunes of the elite were affected by economic crises, most notably amid the runaway
5:58·inflation of the third and fourth centuries. The proscriptions that accompanied the civil
6:03·wars of the late Republic destroyed the lives and fortunes of hundreds of elite families.
6:09·So did the executions and confiscations that marked the reigns of the more tyrannical
6:14·Roman emperors. Barbarian hordes, finally, were never good for business.
6:21·But the single most important factor behind the rapid disappearance of most Roman family
6:26·fortunes was nothing more or less than infertility – the fact that, from the
6:32·beginning to the end of Roman history, most elite families failed to reproduce themselves.
6:39·A careful study focused on the century between the reigns of Trajan and Commodus, for example,
6:44·suggests that only about a quarter of senatorial families managed to survive for three generations.
6:52·In part, this reflected the reluctance of some Roman aristocrats to marry. Despite the
6:59·marriage legislation of Augustus, which imposed legal penalties on members of the elite who
7:04·remained unwed, the childless old man, hounded by would-be heirs, was a trope in Roman literature.
7:12·Even elite Romans who married tended to produce few children.
7:17·The historian Polybius speculated that elite infertility reflected aggressive birth control,
7:23·as parents attempted to limit the dispersal of family wealth by producing only one or two heirs.
7:31·Most modern historians, however, think that few Romans, elite or otherwise,
7:36·ever used such rigorous family planning, not least because many members of the Roman elite
7:42·produced large families. Marcus Aurelius and his wife Faustina, for example, had 13 children.
7:51·The reason most elite families were small seems to have been the terrible toll taken by childhood
7:56·disease. Only about half of all Roman children, rich or poor, survived to their fifth birthday.
8:05·Fronto, the tutor of Marcus Aurelius, lost five children, each dying before the next was born. Of
8:13·the 12 children of Tiberius Gracchus and Cornelia, only three reached adulthood. Many elite Romans
8:19·– even emperors, who were especially motivated to produce heirs – had no surviving children.
8:27·The Romans were well aware how difficult it was to have large families. During the reign of Domitian,
8:32·for example, a woman who had five living sons and five living daughters was publicly honored
8:38·at a festival. Roman custom sanctioned elite adoption, whereby a childless father gave his
8:45·family name (and eventually, property) to the adult son of one of his social peers.
8:51·But even this practice could only preserve a small minority of families.
8:57·Family fortunes were still more fragile, even when the heirs survived childhood.
9:02·Take the example of Crassus, that ultra-wealthy magnate who said no man was rich who couldn’t
9:09·afford to pay an army. One of Crassus’ two sons died with him at the disastrous Battle of Carrhae.
9:16·But the other survived to marry Caecilia Metella, whose gargantuan
9:20·tomb on the Appian Way is the sole extant physical monument to the family fortune.
9:25·Yet Crassus’ direct line – and apparently his fortune – lasted only three generations.
9:33·There were, of course, exceptions – families that produced heirs generation after generation. The
9:39·Scipio clan, which remained at the forefront of Roman politics for centuries, is a famous example.
9:47·There were also instances from the provinces: at the city of Oenoanda, in modern Turkey,
9:52·the tomb of one aristocratic lady proudly traces her lineage back twelve generations.
9:59·During late antiquity, some prominent families, such as Symmachi and Anicii, retained their
10:06·prestige and wealth in the face of an increasingly hostile political climate, surviving even the
10:11·collapse of the Western Roman Empire. Some of these families migrated to Constantinople,
10:16·where their descendants long remained prominent. In Western Europe, a few families survived into
10:22·the Middle Ages, producing magnates, bishops, gilded reliquaries,
10:27·and Romanesque churches – the last generations of witnesses to the fortunes of the Roman elite.
10:37·If you’re interested in more toldinstone content
10:40·(including my podcast), check out my channel Toldinstone Footnotes.
10:45·I also have a channel called Scenic Routes to the Past, which is dedicated
10:49·to historically-themed travel. You'll find both channels linked in the description.
10:55·Please consider joining other viewers in supporting toldinstone on Patreon.
11:00·You might also enjoy my book, Naked Statues, Fat Gladiators, and War Elephants. Thanks for watching

1 posted on 02/27/2023 10:22:52 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 02/27/2023 10:23:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Tax Man..................


3 posted on 02/27/2023 10:34:53 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s an add. Interesting topic though.


4 posted on 02/27/2023 10:37:18 AM PST by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! It's )
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To: SunkenCiv

Many Caesars would have wealthy enemies executed as traitors so their wealth could be confiscated to fund military campaigns and massive building projects. Octavian, Antony, Tiberius, Caligula and Nero were notorious for this.


5 posted on 02/27/2023 10:40:35 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SunkenCiv

Since I watched Spartacus I wondered if it was true... Did Crassus’s son really pump Julius Ceaser in the bung hole!?? That scene actually shocked me!!


6 posted on 02/27/2023 10:53:10 AM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: sit-rep

No. The old queen (when he was still young) Gore Vidal wrote the initial draft for “Spartacus” and I think for “Ben Hur” as well.


7 posted on 02/27/2023 10:58:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: sit-rep

Wait....
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8 posted on 02/27/2023 11:01:58 AM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: SunkenCiv

It was all spent through at the Battle of Carrhae.


9 posted on 02/27/2023 11:14:56 AM PST by LuxAerterna
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(I haven't watched this yet)
Marcus Licinius Crassus: The Rise & Fall of the Richest Man in Rome | 22:45
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Marcus Licinius Crassus: The Rise & Fall of the Richest Man in Rome | 22:45 | Biographics | 2.24M subscribers | 232,111 views | June 18, 2021

0:50 - Chapter 1 - Early years
3:40 - Chapter 2 - The civil wars
6:55 - Chapter 3 - All the money in the world
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16:00 - Chapter 5 - An alliance is born
18:10 - Chapter 6 - War with parthia
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0:07·a bit
0:13·they say the greed is the downfall of
0:15·man it certainly was the downfall of one
0:17·particular man despite having all the
0:19·power and all the money in the world
0:21·it was still not enough for marcus
0:24·licinia's crassus he could have spent
0:26·the rest of his life as one of rome's
0:27·most influential citizens getting rich
0:30·and fat off the countless properties and
0:32·businesses that he owns
0:33·but instead he marched to his doom out
0:35·of greed and hubris and caused not only
0:37·his own demise but embroiled rome in a
0:39·conflict that would last
0:41·over 250 years
0:48·marcus cecinius crassus was born circa
0:51·115 bc into an old and respected roman
0:54·family named licinia he was the second
0:56·of three sons of publius lascinius
0:58·crassus and
0:59·vennalea his father was a very
1:01·successful man he served as a senator
1:03·then consul then censor then even
1:05·had a roman triumph in his honor which
1:07·was a public ceremony intended to
1:09·celebrate a big
1:10·military victory despite all of this
1:12·they lived modestly
1:13·plutarch who gives the most detailed
1:15·account of crassus's life in
1:16·the parallel lives said that the future
1:19·general grew up in a small house and
1:20·that both his brothers got married while
1:22·their parents were still alive and
1:24·they all lived under the same roof and
1:26·ate at the same table
1:27·one of crassus's brothers died in the
1:30·early 80s bc and left behind a childless
1:32·widow
1:33·named tatula although unusual for that
1:35·time crassus decided to marry her
1:37·and they had two boys together marcus
1:40·publius his older brother also died a
1:42·few years later which meant that he
1:43·received the full inheritance from his
1:45·parents
1:46·which was substantial despite their
1:48·meager living conditions
1:49·so just how substantial well of course
1:51·it's hard to provide an
1:52·accurate measurement of his wealth but
1:54·plutarch said that when kratos started
1:57·out
1:57·he had around 300 talents which is great
2:00·i mean but
2:01·how much is her talent in today's money
2:03·that's actually surprisingly difficult
2:04·to answer since the value of the talent
2:06·was tied to the value of silver
2:08·and has varied wildly over the course of
2:10·the centuries that it was in use
2:12·originally the talent was simply a unit
2:14·of weight first introduced in ancient
2:16·mesopotamia and used by everyone
2:18·the akkadians the sumerians the
2:19·babylonians the phoenicians the
2:21·egyptians the hebrews the talent that
2:23·plutarch is referring to
2:24·is the attic or greek talent it was
2:27·still a unit of way which measured
2:28·around 26 kilograms but it became
2:30·far more commonly used as a unit of
2:32·currency which represented the weight
2:34·of a talent in pure silver so then how
2:37·much was an
2:38·attic talent worth fortunately others
2:40·have already made some calculations so
2:42·we don't have to the english translation
2:44·of plutarch's book dated to 1916
2:46·estimated that one talent was worth
2:48·around one thousand two hundred dollars
2:50·or around twenty nine thousand dollars
2:51·in today's money another estimate was
2:53·provided in 1885 by william watson
2:55·goodwin who taught greek studies at
2:57·harvard and he calculated that
2:59·one talent was around a thousand dollars
3:01·or twenty seven thousand five hundred
3:03·dollars in modern currency so both
3:05·estimates were in the same ballpark
3:06·now going back to plutarch he said that
3:08·crassus started out with 300 talent
3:10·which would be around 8.6 million
3:12·dollars today and by the time he left
3:14·for the parthian expedition where he
3:15·died
3:16·crassus was worth around 7 100 talents
3:19·which would be over 200 million dollars
3:21·today
3:21·of course this is just a rough estimate
3:23·as some have placed his wealth in the
3:24·billions and whether or not he
3:26·truly was the richest man in rome is
3:28·again something that is difficult for us
3:30·to establish with any certainty
3:32·[Music]
3:38·crassus's rise through the ranks of rome
3:40·came during a time of turmoil for the
3:41·republic one that perhaps foreshadowed
3:43·its eventual collapse just a few decades
3:45·later
3:46·the main cause for this turmoil was a
3:47·rivalry between two men
3:49·sulla and gaius marius who were both
3:52·highly decorated military commanders but
3:54·fierce opponents in 88 bc sulla who was
3:57·a consul at the time was getting ready
3:58·to take his army in march easter to
4:00·fight the kingdom of
4:01·pontus in modern-day turkey led by king
4:03·mithradartes vi
4:05·however gaius marius also wanted that
4:07·position and he used his influence and
4:09·intrigues to relieve sulla of his duty
4:12·but he did not anticipate his opponent's
4:14·next move
4:14·instead of relinquishing command sulla
4:16·took his troops and marched on rome the
4:18·same as
4:19·julius caesar would do 40 years later
4:21·this became known as sulla's first civil
4:23·war and the general garnered the
4:24·distinction of being the first man to
4:26·seize power of the roman republic
4:27·through force gaius marius and his
4:29·cohorts however managed to flee the city
4:31·and retreat to africa where they
4:32·regrouped
4:33·back in rome sula consolidated his power
4:35·enacted new policies placed his
4:37·supporters in high-ranking offices then
4:39·traveled to pontus to fight the king
4:40·mithradartes as
4:42·originally intended this provided gaius
4:44·marius with the time he needed to raise
4:45·an army so
4:46·the following year he entered rome and
4:48·successfully ousted solar supporters
4:50·erasing all the changes enacted by his
4:52·enemy the conquest
4:53·was a lot bloodier as it was followed by
4:56·the marian purges where
4:57·marius and his allies assassinated a lot
4:59·of solar supporters this included
5:01·lucius licinius crassus older brother of
5:04·marcus crassus and presumably also his
5:06·father who died around the same time
5:08·although were unsure of the exact
5:10·circumstances it's possible that
5:11·publius sliciness crassus committed
5:13·suicide knowing that a
5:14·far worse fate was awaiting him with the
5:17·senate at his mercy marius organized
5:19·elections for consulships but
5:21·only two people were allowed to take
5:22·part himself and his second in command
5:24·lucius cornelius sinner unsurprisingly
5:27·they became the new consuls once he
5:29·fulfilled all of his goals gaius marius
5:30·died just a few days later
5:32·and sinner took over eager to avoid the
5:34·same fate as his father and brother
5:36·crassus fled rome and traveled to espana
5:39·to meet some of his father's friends he
5:40·spent the next few years there living in
5:42·a cave near the sea making arrangements
5:44·building an army
5:45·knowing that another battle between the
5:47·two sides was inevitable however cena
5:49·would not take part
5:50·in 84 bc he thought he would launch a
5:52·surprise attack on his enemies by
5:53·crossing the adriatic sea into dalmatia
5:56·although the circumstances are a bit
5:58·murky sinner angered his own soldiers
6:00·somehow and he was killed in a mutiny
6:01·the leadership of his faction was passed
6:03·on to others such as gaius marius the
6:05·younger and
6:06·a consul named cabo it was in 83 bc that
6:09·sulla launched his second offensive on
6:11·rome predictably
6:12·named sulla's second civil war he was
6:14·joined by crassus but
6:15·also by pompeii who was an up-and-coming
6:17·general at the time
6:18·the decisive moment in the war came at
6:20·the battle of colleen gate in november
6:22·of 82 bc
6:24·where marcus cress has played a pivotal
6:25·role he was in charge of the right wing
6:27·and while sulla's troops were getting
6:29·pushed back into the center
6:30·crassus was victorious on his side and
6:32·completely routed their enemies
6:34·once sulla was in charge of rome again
6:36·he declared himself dictator and spent
6:37·the next couple of years hunting down
6:39·the remaining members
6:40·of the marian faction at the same time
6:42·he was also very generous when it came
6:44·to rewarding his supporters and
6:45·marcus crassus was at the top of the
6:47·list
6:54·this was the beginning of crassus path
6:56·to exorbitant wealth
6:58·he lost everything when he fled rome
7:00·because his enemies enacted
7:01·prescriptions and confiscated all of his
7:03·family's property but
7:04·now the same thing was happening to the
7:07·marian supporters
7:08·sulla took everything they owned which
7:10·was now being sold off for peanuts and
7:11·krasus was the main buyer letting his
7:14·greed completely take over or as
7:15·plutarch put it the many virtues of
7:17·crassus were obscured by his soul vice
7:19·of avarice and it is likely that
7:21·the one vice which became stronger than
7:24·all the others in him
7:25·weakened the rest the astorian makes
7:27·mention of one case in
7:28·brotherum where crassus prescribed a
7:30·wealthy man without sula's permission
7:32·just so that he could buy his estate at
7:34·auction
7:34·another even more scandalous episode
7:36·occurred when crassus was accused of
7:38·corrupting a vestal virgin named lycinia
7:40·when in fact he
7:41·kept visiting her because he wanted to
7:43·buy her villa but this was
7:44·not enough for crassus once there was no
7:47·more confiscated property to purchase he
7:48·moved
7:49·on to derelict and destroyed buildings
7:50·that had been damaged after years of
7:52·fighting
7:53·he also bought hundreds of slaves who
7:54·were skilled laborers particularly
7:56·builders and architects so he purchased
7:58·ruined buildings for next to nothing
7:59·repaired or rebuilt them using slave
8:01·labor and then sold them off for a large
8:02·profit
8:03·next up crassus realized that many
8:05·houses were damaged by fires in rome
8:07·almost every day so he established his
8:08·own private fire department
8:10·of course they did not perform this
8:12·service out of the goodness of their
8:13·hearts
8:13·no if a person's house caught on fire
8:15·the brigade would rush over there but
8:17·then they would just sit back and relax
8:19·ready to watch the fire
8:20·burn the whole thing down that was when
8:22·crassus showed up
8:23·ready to make an offer to buy the
8:25·property while it still had some little
8:27·value if the person accepted then the
8:28·brigade put out the fire
8:30·if they didn't then the house burned
8:31·down to ashes and crassus made a new
8:33·offer this time
8:34·much lower than the previous one one way
8:36·or another
8:37·he almost always came out on top in
8:39·addition to his ever-growing real estate
8:41·empire crass has also derived his
8:43·massive wealth from
8:44·other sources such as slaves silver
8:46·mines and the land used for agriculture
8:48·despite
8:49·all his actions plutarch did not
8:50·consider crass as an unpleasant man
8:52·quite the country in fact the historian
8:54·said the wealthy roman won
8:55·everyone over with universal kindness
8:57·dignity of person
8:58·persuasiveness of speech and winning
9:00·grace a feature despite his
9:02·obsession with making money crassus was
9:04·never loathed to spend it and he was
9:06·generous with strangers and kept his
9:07·house open to all
9:08·he was an esteemed and careful man and
9:11·one who was ready with his help
9:12·he pleased people also by the kindly and
9:15·unaffected manner
9:16·with which he clasped their hands and
9:18·dressed them for he never met a roman so
9:20·obscure and so lowly that he did not
9:22·return his greeting
9:24·and call him by name but wealth alone
9:26·was not enough for a roman of note he
9:28·also needed
9:29·status and influence so to gain these
9:31·crassus had two choices politics
9:34·or the military he chose the former
9:35·because he was better suited for it and
9:37·it would have been undoubtedly aided by
9:39·his wealth and his lineage meanwhile
9:42·being a successful military commander
9:43·would have meant being away from rome
9:44·for long periods of time which would
9:46·have adversely affected his businesses
9:48·unsurprisingly krasus turned out to be a
9:50·naval politician and a skilled orator as
9:52·he pursued the
9:53·cursus honorum aka the tradition of
9:56·sequence of public officers held by
9:58·senators as they steadily climbed the
9:59·political ladder he was described as
10:01·making
10:02·very many changes in his political views
10:04·and was neither a steadfast friend nor
10:06·an implacable enemy
10:07·but readily abandoned both his favors
10:10·and his resentments at the dictates of
10:12·his interest
10:13·so that frequently within a short space
10:15·of time the same men and the same
10:17·measures found in him boasts an
10:18·advocate and an opponent throughout his
10:21·life it did seem to bother crassus that
10:23·he never achieved the same kind of
10:24·military glory as some of his colleagues
10:26·he had a particular chip on his shoulder
10:28·about pompeii who
10:29·went away to fight and amassed victories
10:31·while crassus was building his real
10:33·estate empire despite his young age he
10:35·was
10:35·already being called pompei the great
10:37·and plutarch related one incident when
10:39·somebody announced the arrival
10:41·of pompeii the great and crassus fell to
10:43·the floor laughing
10:44·asking how great is he but in 73 bc
10:48·marcus crassus was granted the
10:49·opportunity to gain some prestige for
10:51·himself as
10:51·he was tasked with putting down a
10:53·rebellion started by an escaped slave
10:55·named spartacus...
10:56·[ad text redacted]
12:25·a lot of you are probably already
12:26·familiar with spartacus if you're not
12:29·or if you simply want to learn about his
12:30·rebellion in more detail we actually
12:32·already did a biographics video all
12:34·about spartacus which you should check
12:36·out
12:36·after you watch this video if you
12:38·haven't seen it already here is the
12:39·cliffnotes version though spartacus and
12:41·a bunch of other slaves escaped from a
12:42·gladiator school in kapua in 73 bc and
12:45·started raiding the italian countryside
12:47·such revolts were not
12:48·unheard of in fact the war of spartacus
12:51·is also known as the third serval war
12:53·part of a series of conflicts caused by
12:55·slave uprisings that is why the roman
12:57·senate did not really
12:58·show much concern at first only sending
13:01·militia and local patrols after
13:02·spartacus and
13:04·assuming that they would be enough to
13:05·put down the rebellion none of them
13:07·could get the job done however they were
13:08·defeated by the slaves whose numbers
13:10·kept growing as
13:11·more and more people joined their cause
13:13·eventually even properly trained roman
13:15·legions led by consoles were bested
13:17·by the rebels and well the senate
13:19·started a panic
13:20·that is when they gave the task of
13:22·defeating spartacus to marcus crassus
13:24·also
13:25·making him a prey tour and giving him
13:27·command of eight legions
13:29·this was something that crassus needed
13:30·in order to advance his career and to
13:32·achieve it he showed a degree of
13:34·ruthlessness he never really displayed
13:36·before this was exemplified after an
13:38·incident with his legate
13:39·marmius who was given command of two
13:41·legions and told to follow spartacus and
13:43·his army without engaging them in combat
13:45·mummius however
13:47·thought that he had the upper hand so he
13:48·attacked the rebels and
13:50·lost to punish him crassus revived the
13:52·practice of decimation he took the 500
13:55·soldiers who were the first to retreat
13:56·divided them into groups of 10 and made
13:58·them draw lots
13:59·with one man being executed from each
14:01·group despite the rocky start crassus
14:04·soon had the advantage
14:05·he had trapped spartacus and his army in
14:07·bratium and
14:08·had ditches and walls erected to prevent
14:10·the enemy from running away
14:11·his plan was to wither his opponents
14:13·down through attrition and leave them
14:15·vulnerable for one final attack however
14:17·he soon received terrible news the
14:18·senate was sending him reinforcements
14:20·now this might sound like
14:21·good news but it wasn't because pompey
14:24·was the one leading those reinforcements
14:25·crassus knew that the only reason they
14:27·chose him in the first place was because
14:29·pompei was busy putting down a revolt in
14:31·espana but he had been successful and
14:33·now he was heading this way and krasus
14:35·realized that if the gladiator rebellion
14:37·ended when pompe arrived
14:38·he would be the one receiving all the
14:40·glory unfortunately for crassus that is
14:42·exactly what happened
14:43·he met spartacus in one decisive action
14:45·known as the battle of solaris river
14:47·despite sustaining significant losses
14:49·the roman was triumphant spartacus was
14:51·killed in the battle as were tens of
14:53·thousands of his soldiers
14:54·thousands more were taken prisoner and
14:56·later crucified along the appian way on
14:58·crassus's orders but around 5000 also
15:01·still managed to plead the battle they
15:02·ran
15:02·into pompei's army and were cut down
15:04·without hesitation but this allowed
15:06·pompeii
15:06·to write to the senate saying that
15:08·krasus had conquered the slaves but that
15:10·he himself had extipated the war for his
15:12·efforts not just against spartacus but
15:14·also in hispania pompei was awarded a
15:16·major triumph upon his return to rome
15:18·grasses meanwhile did not object as he
15:20·knew it'd make him seem petty and
15:21·ignoble
15:22·instead what he did was ask pompe for
15:24·help despite his young
15:26·age and experience when it came to
15:27·public office pompeii had been
15:29·asked to stand for consoleship which was
15:31·the highest position
15:32·of the cursus honorum typically two
15:34·consuls were elected to serve a one-year
15:36·term so
15:36·crassus asked pompe to endorse him as
15:39·the other candidate which pompey did
15:40·because he thought it would be useful to
15:42·have kratos a favor
15:44·so the two became consoles together in
15:46·17 bc although plutarch specified that
15:48·their terms ended without anything of
15:50·significance happening because each one
15:52·tried to undo the measures of the other
15:59·although the relationship between
16:01·crassus and pompeii was never openly
16:03·hostile
16:03·it was contentious since the two of them
16:05·usually had the same ambitions but a
16:07·third element was introduced into the
16:09·equation
16:10·which changed the dynamic and that
16:11·element was julius caesar
16:13·caesar was another prominent citizen of
16:15·rome who was climbing the ranks and saw
16:17·the potential for a powerful alliance if
16:18·crassus and pompey
16:20·were able to put aside their differences
16:21·at first caesar was actually the junior
16:24·in the partnership
16:25·pompeii was rome's most celebrated
16:26·military commander while crassus was the
16:28·city's most influential landowner
16:30·and both were more powerful than him
16:32·caesar didn't want to risk making an
16:33·enemy out of one of them by fully
16:35·supporting the other so instead he
16:37·persuaded them that it would be in all
16:38·their best interests if they worked
16:40·together
16:40·against other prominent statesmen such
16:42·as carto and cicero who
16:45·opposed them all that is how the first
16:47·trumper was born around 60 bc
16:49·in the words of livy it was a conspiracy
16:51·against the state
16:52·by its three leading citizens they did
16:54·not share an agenda but
16:56·they sought to help each other out so
16:58·that they could bypass the senate in
16:59·order to accomplish their goals plutarch
17:01·said that rome was divided into three
17:03·powerful parties that of pompei that of
17:05·caesar
17:06·and that of crassus it was the
17:08·thoughtful and conservative part of the
17:10·city which attached itself to pompeii
17:12·the violent and volatile part which
17:14·supported the hopes of caesar while
17:15·crassus took a middle ground
17:17·and drew from both caesar was the one
17:19·who most benefited from this triumvirate
17:21·with the support of his allies he was
17:22·elected consul and was granted an army
17:24·and then went off to fight the gauls
17:26·after a few years his military success
17:28·made caesar very popular and influential
17:30·and his two co-conspirators
17:31·started feeling like they were getting
17:33·the short end of the stick although they
17:35·faced heavy resistance from their
17:36·enemies in the senate in 56 bc
17:38·pompei and marcus crass has secured
17:40·another consulship for themselves
17:42·and afterwards were assigned
17:43·governorships of roman provinces pompeii
17:46·received two provinces in hispania while
17:48·crassus received syria
17:49·the exact circumstances behind this
17:51·political move are uncertain some
17:52·historians claimed that caesar helped
17:54·them become consuls again in an attempt
17:56·to
17:57·preserve their waning alliance while
17:59·others said that crassus and pompeii did
18:01·this
18:01·without caesar's approval specifically
18:03·to counter his growing influence
18:11·back then being made a governor of a
18:12·province meant that you had carte
18:14·blanche to do whatever you wanted
18:16·more or less that was receive bribes
18:17·take loans start new businesses etc it
18:20·was usually regarded as a reward from
18:22·the senate to make yourself as rich as
18:23·possible while you served as governor
18:25·this should have been an ideal position
18:27·for crassus but
18:28·he wanted more not satisfied with the
18:30·riches found in syria he thought about
18:32·expanding to the east into the parthian
18:34·empire the two nations had
18:35·a complicated and violent relationship
18:37·for most of the 500-year existence of
18:39·the parthian empire
18:40·founded in the mid 3rd century bc
18:42·parthia was an iranian civilization that
18:44·became a powerhouse in the middle east
18:46·when it defeated the seleucid empire
18:47·it took over all of their territory and
18:49·just kept expanding
18:51·the problem with expansion is that
18:52·eventually you run into other people who
18:54·would prefer to stop your expansion
18:56·that's what happened
18:57·to parthia it expanded westward until it
18:59·reached roman territory
19:01·even so for about 200 years the two
19:03·sides coexisted using the kingdom of
19:05·armenia as a useful buffer between their
19:07·lands
19:07·this changed in 54 bc however when the
19:09·first of a series of conflicts known as
19:11·the roman parthian wars began
19:13·after crassus decided to rekindle his
19:15·military career nobody knows what
19:17·brought this on crassus was over 60
19:19·years old and
19:20·he had not taken part in a military
19:21·campaign for almost 20 years since he
19:23·fought spartagus was it merely his greed
19:26·that spurred him on
19:27·or was it also his desire not to be
19:28·outshined by pompei and caesar according
19:31·to plutarch in private crass has made
19:33·youthful boasts which
19:34·ill become his years saying that he will
19:37·go beyond
19:38·parthia into india and baktria and make
19:40·pompei's campaigns against mithridates
19:42·look like
19:43·child's play so it definitely seems like
19:45·he was motivated by more than just
19:47·money as a governor crassus had the
19:48·power to levy an army so
19:50·in 53 bc even without senate approval he
19:53·invaded mesopotamia at first things went
19:55·quite well for the roman commander most
19:57·cities offered tribute and allied
19:58·themselves with the romans willingly
19:59·particularly the greek cities that had
20:01·been founded by the macedonians during
20:03·the time of alexander one exception was
20:05·a city called
20:06·zenodotian which arrested and killed
20:08·some of crassus's soldiers so in return
20:10·crassus plundered it
20:11·and enslaved all of its citizens the
20:13·roman general made his first mistake
20:15·when winter came because instead of
20:17·pressing the attack he retreated to
20:18·syria until spring
20:20·waiting for his son publius to arrive
20:22·with reinforcements by this point of
20:24·course the parthians received word of
20:25·his incursions and this gave them time
20:27·to prepare they even
20:28·sent an enboy to crassus from king
20:30·orodes ii
20:31·of parthia giving him one last chance to
20:34·stop his invasion
20:34·boastfully crassus replied that he would
20:36·give the king his response in solution
20:39·meaning that he planned to take the
20:40·parthian capital to this the envoy burst
20:43·out in laughter and
20:44·pointing at his palm said oh crassus
20:46·hair will grow there before
20:48·thou shalt see seleucia his second
20:50·mistake came when he refused the aid of
20:51·king artavastis ii of armenia who
20:53·offered crassus safe passage and
20:55·reinforcements if he invaded parthia
20:57·through his land
20:58·instead crassus accepted the help of
21:00·aryamnis leader of the kingdom of
21:02·osharone and
21:03·crossed the euphrates into mesopotamia
21:05·ariemnes had served pompei in the past
21:07·and proved himself a
21:08·friend of rome but on this occasion he
21:10·was working with the parthians and lead
21:12·crassus and his troops into the open
21:14·desert completely weakened tired and
21:16·demoralized the roman troops fought the
21:17·parthians at the battle of kharhai in 53
21:20·bc located in modern day haran turkey
21:22·the parthians led by a general named
21:24·serena slaughtered the romans even
21:26·though they were severely outnumbered
21:28·crassus had clearly lost the battle his
21:29·son publius had
21:30·been killed and most of his remaining
21:32·men were getting ready to mutiny he
21:34·tried making a truce but this was a trap
21:36·and marcus crassus and his entire
21:38·retinue were killed when they met the
21:39·parthians according to plutarch crassus
21:41·killer was a man named pomax threes who
21:43·then
21:44·cut off his head and one hand and sent
21:46·them to the parthian king a much more
21:48·notorious death was told by cassius dio
21:50·said that crassus had molten gold pulled
21:52·down his throat to punish him
21:54·prison ending greed although he didn't
21:56·specify if the roman general was alive
21:58·or dead when this happened back home his
21:59·death had important consequences
22:01·for starters it was a humiliating defeat
22:03·for rome one that had to be answered for
22:05·so parthia became one of its fiercest
22:07·enemies for the next 250 years but
22:09·crassus's demise also meant the end of
22:11·the first triumvirate pompe and caesar
22:13·were already on hostile terms by this
22:15·point and
22:15·with crassus gone the two of them were
22:17·firmly placed on a collision course
22:19·which prompted the fall of the republic
22:22·and gave rise
22:23·to the roman empire
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10 posted on 02/27/2023 11:34:52 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: foundedonpurpose

It’s not an ad, it’s a history video. The YT-generated transcript has the ad text edited out.


11 posted on 02/27/2023 11:37:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m pretty sure George Soros stole it and has been using Crassus’ fortune to bankroll cultural deconstruction ever since.

Sure helps explain the collapse of the Roman empire.


12 posted on 02/27/2023 11:54:12 AM PST by sphinx
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To: SunkenCiv
He invested it all with the sniffing accountant, Barus Prophetus.


13 posted on 02/27/2023 12:12:29 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just postill clickbait!)
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To: SunkenCiv

According to the movie (B.S.), he was executed by being forced to swallow his gold.


14 posted on 02/27/2023 12:24:49 PM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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To: SunkenCiv
“Behold my audacity, I have given a dinner to Hirtius without a peacock!”

- Cicero
15 posted on 02/27/2023 12:42:11 PM PST by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: SunkenCiv

I appreciate you finding this stuff and posting the transcript. My next comment is not directed at YOU.

I despise the way YouTube generates their transcripts. I wish there was a way to get the data and format it to something readable in a document type format. There is probably a you tube video that would show how to do that. Lol.


16 posted on 02/27/2023 12:48:24 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: SunkenCiv
The Brits used primogeniture to resolve the problem of inheritance, but even with, or maybe because of, the priesthood or military for the second sons, it caused intrigue and adventurism. Much colonial history was made by second sons.

Tocqueville credited the end of primogeniture and entail (insoluble estates) for the spread of democracy in the US:
"The law of equal inheritance, by giving an equal portion of the father's property to all the children, compels the rich to divide their estates among their children; and forbids the poor to divide theirs at all. It takes wealth from some, and poverty from none; it secures every man's independence without increasing anyone's power, and without disturbing the balance of society. Democracy favors the division of estates for another reason; not only does it make the poor equal to the rich, but it places a greater number of citizens above the level of poverty, and it infuses comfort and independence into a multitude of families."

(Volume 1, Part 2, Chapter 4)

17 posted on 02/27/2023 12:53:02 PM PST by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: Vermont Lt

I’m grateful that there’s anything available at all. I did some cleanup with search and replace — extraneous spaces, “Krassus” instead of “Crassus” (all lowercase though), and I deliberately leave in the time index to make the dialogue simple to find.


18 posted on 02/27/2023 1:10:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The spelling is Croesus ... I do believe.
Headline writers are so illiterate and uneducated these days.


19 posted on 02/27/2023 1:28:29 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: Honest Nigerian

No, it isn’t. Croesus is the modern spelling for one of the kings of Lydia.


20 posted on 02/27/2023 1:32:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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