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Human ancestors nearly went extinct 900,000 years ago
Nature ^ | 8/31/2023 | Anna Ikarashi

Posted on 09/01/2023 5:47:16 AM PDT by logi_cal869

Human ancestors in Africa were pushed to the brink of extinction around 900,000 years ago, a study shows. The work1, published in Science, suggests a drastic reduction in the population of our ancestors well before our species, Homo sapiens, emerged. The population of breeding individuals was reduced to just 1,280 and didn’t expand again for another 117,000 years.

“About 98.7% of human ancestors were lost,” says Haipeng Li, a population geneticist at the University of Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing, who co-led the study. He says that the fossil record in Africa and Eurasia between 950,000 and 650,000 years ago is patchy and that “the discovery of this bottleneck may explain the chronological gap”.

Nick Ashton, an archaeologist at the British Museum in London, who wrote a related perspective2, says he was intrigued by the tiny size of the population. “This would imply that it occupied a very localized area with good social cohesion for it to survive,” he says. “Of greater surprise is the estimated length of time that this small group survived. If this is correct, then one imagines that it would require a stable environment with sufficient resources and few stresses to the system.”

Clues from modern DNA To make their discovery, the researchers needed to invent new tools. Advances in genome sequencing have improved scientists’ understanding of population sizes for the period after modern humans emerged, but the researchers developed a methodology that enabled them to fill in details about earlier human ancestors. Serena Tucci, an anthropologist at Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut, says that such work was sorely needed. “We still know very little about the population dynamics of early human ancestors for several reasons, including methodological limitations and difficulties in obtaining ancient DNA data from old Homo specimens,” she says.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Science
KEYWORDS: 300manyearsoflabor; africa; ancientautopsies; catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; homoantecessor; humanhistory; impact; noahsmalarkey
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Good, hard science. Refreshing & fascinating.

But it's a shame that the event 900k years ago didn't clear all of the progressivism from the gene pool.

Our own 'bottleneck' is sure to come.

1 posted on 09/01/2023 5:47:16 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

We call it ‘the great flood’


2 posted on 09/01/2023 5:49:59 AM PDT by struggle
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Maybe it was climate change....too much fossil fuel being used.


3 posted on 09/01/2023 5:53:52 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic..!)
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if CNN wasn’t there to report on it did it really happen? let’s ask Andrea. she looks old enough to have been there.


4 posted on 09/01/2023 5:54:45 AM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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To: unread

Fuels, hell! We almost ran out of fossils!


5 posted on 09/01/2023 5:55:52 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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“ The population of breeding individuals was reduced to just 1,280 and didn’t expand again for another 117,000 years.”

That is ridiculous. There is no way that information is known.


6 posted on 09/01/2023 5:59:15 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: logi_cal869
First, it wasn't THAT long ago

Second, it was a flood.

Third, there will be another judgement - by FIRE!

7 posted on 09/01/2023 6:00:36 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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“About 98.7% of human ancestors were lost,”

They refused to stop and ask for directions.

8 posted on 09/01/2023 6:00:36 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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That’s when the smart ones left Africa........................


9 posted on 09/01/2023 6:01:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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I bet it was those evil SUVs.


10 posted on 09/01/2023 6:04:37 AM PDT by chrisser (I lost my vaccine card in a tragic boating accident.)
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"Fuels, hell! We almost ran out of fossils!"

You know, I was thinking, there was still monkeys left, I mean, you know, to make more humans, right..??

11 posted on 09/01/2023 6:05:29 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic..!)
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The article is utter Bullshit!


12 posted on 09/01/2023 6:09:40 AM PDT by old school
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This is complete, absolute, unadulterated bull shit. There is just no way anyone on the face of this Earth could possibly state with any accuracy that there were just 1,280 breeding individuals 900,000 years ago.

It’s sad, just sad how science has become fictionalized erratic propaganda. Much of it for political purposes. Much of this has happened since the leftists of the world took over the western culture.

In the past hundred years or so there have been great strides made in the advancement of aviation, medicine, transportation, electronics, just to name a few. If science had always been a joke such as this article, we’d still be traveling by horse, there’d be no airplanes, radios and we’d be using witch doctors for medicine.

Sorry for the rant, but this level of BS ticks me off.


13 posted on 09/01/2023 6:10:44 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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Follow the science.


14 posted on 09/01/2023 6:12:20 AM PDT by Bounced2X (Boomer - I survived childhood with no bike helmet.)
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“That is ridiculous. There is no way that information is known.”

Scientists these days are “smaatttt”. They know the weather every day in every location on the planet for the last million years.

;-)


15 posted on 09/01/2023 6:12:55 AM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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The population of breeding individuals was reduced to just 1,280

next they are going to say that they were socialists, and that socialism saved the human race

16 posted on 09/01/2023 6:14:49 AM PDT by mjp (pro-freedom & pro-wealth $)
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I had read earlier the notion that there had been a severe bottleneck in the distant past, but not that they thought the entire human population was that low.

Supposedly a group of 25 chimpanzees will have more variation in their DNA than the entire human race has, because of that bottleneck.

Because each of us is the product of a unique combination of matings between myriads of ancestors over thousands of generations, if that massive die-off had not occurred, none of us would be here now, because other pairings of men and women (from the other 98.7%) would have produced different children who would have different descendants alive now.

17 posted on 09/01/2023 6:21:48 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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900,000 years ago there were what, 4 ?


18 posted on 09/01/2023 6:22:58 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Toddsterpatriot
They refused to stop and ask for directions.

Well, they were illiterate, so they couldn't read the road signs.

19 posted on 09/01/2023 6:23:08 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: struggle
We call it ‘the great flood’

The critique in this thread is interesting, and expected. I agree with your comment, however.

I've been following genomics for a number of years and the science behind these studies appears sound, entirely dependent upon the power of the processors performing the number crunching. However, as with all aspects of such simulations, GIGO applies, and I cannot deny a GIGO aspect to this study. As well, there are glaring gaps in data which may never be filled.

The 'great flood' was extinction #2, IMHO.

We are now at the precipice of #3. The part of my comment that I chose not to assign to the OP was speculation about how our era might be viewed by those 900k in the future.

Architects of our own demise.

20 posted on 09/01/2023 6:23:24 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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