Posted on 02/18/2024 12:56:10 PM PST by DallasBiff
Bill Letson had an NDE (Near-Death Experience) after contracting the flu. He flew through a star-filled realm and met three beings and God in Heaven. An NDE (Near-Death Experience) occurs when someone dies, is revived, and knows there is life after death. For Bill, his NDE (Near-Death Experience) was a life-altering experience that changed him forever.
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
He states that he was reporting to a sick woman's house and got infected when she coughed.
I am not going to question his NDE, but getting it from a non historical flu epidemic in California in 1994?
Mods pull if unappropriate
These NDE things are less scientific than psychology itself.
Purely objective reports. No corroboration by a third party (or even a second party).
“I died a white man; but i was not really dead. I woke up as a red/brown/black boy/girl/woman.”
YMMV
God isn’t given tours of Heaven. You are to die only one time.
“There’s sort of dead, mostly dead, and all dead. This fella here, he’s only sort of dead.”
Uh...you don’t need a “flu epidemic” to get the flu...
The firefighter said he was given narcan.
Was narcan available 30 years ago?
wasn’t AIDS the disease back then?
The symptoms would have been very different though.
For those who don’t watch videos. Seems to be a syncretist. Shamanism, Kundalini.
I believe there is a series on Netflix that refutes some of what you just said.
I have read books and watched YouTube’s…some do have corrobation.
Over 50. I personally remember an instance in which it was used in the Berkeley Free Clinic on a guy I helped bring in for a morphine OD back in the early 1970s.
I remember when Narcan was first issued to ALS ambulance teams.
That was in 1982 or 83.
It has been around for a while.
You mean that guy from NY gypped me?!
“These NDE things are less scientific than psychology itself.”
I don’t know. I died once and as I approached the bright light I met a Shaman who taught me all the secrets of the universe and how to become one as a part of the cosmic entity.
I was then returned to my body in total peace, at which time I swore off LSD for good. :D
I remember I was introduced to the term solipism in a class in philosophy. It’s the idea that I exist, but I’m not so sure about you. I know that I exist because I am aware that I am self-aware. Or, as Descartes put it, I think, therefore I am. Everything else might just be imagined by me.
I seem to recall that solipsism was presented as a fallacy. It’s not bad reasoning; it just violates common sense.
The reason I mention this is that not every experience can be confirmed by a third party. Until we have a Vulcan-mind meld (Star Trek), no one can experience my self-awareness. Nor my free will, nor my sense of right and wrong, nor experience my sense of music and beauty. You can’t experience my NDE, and I can’t experience your NDE.
However, we can each look to ourselves and find common experience. We each make decisions and experience free will, etc. These things are commonly held but experienced singly not jointly. Is that distinction important? Not to me. We each have a sense of right and wrong. That probably means that there is right and wrong.
Near death experiences (NDEs), or perhaps death experiences, are also uniquely experienced by the individual. NDEs are rare. However, there have been several reports. The different reports are not identical, but there are common elements. For example, several report an out-of-body experience.
Again, NDEs are not so common that everyone personally knows someone who had an NDE. I think NDEs resemble miracles. A miracle is something very significant and very rare. As it is very rare, it may seem to defy our understanding. Moses parting the Red sea is an example.
David Hume was an atheist enlightenment thinker. He refused to believe in miracles because they were not reproducible. Moses does not part the Red sea every Thursday at 2PM. I found his thinking very unpersuasive. I suspect that if Moses were to part the Red sea every Thursday at 2PM, Hume would still reject it as a miracle. He would call it a natural event, still not fully understood, like life itself.
I think God gave us free will. There would be little room free will if all the evidence indicated one way or another. So the evidence is mixed, and you can choose what to believe.
Thank you for the historical information, it's kinda of funny, one can find narcan in a vending machine in 2024.
A bit dismissive don't you think? Did God tell you this? You sound like those zealots who have an answer for everything but are right about 20% of the time.
NDE have been recorded for years. There have been plenty of scientists studying it. There are thousands of events. It IS possible to take those events and build a statistical model that gives the main points of the process.
Can it be confirmed but a third party? I am not sure how that would be “rigged” but no, that experience is a one at a time thing.
Just because it doesn’t fit in with your view of the afterlife, religion, or God, doesn’t mean it is not real to the people who experience it.
The worst part of any religion is its rigidity to being “right.”
They cannot ALL be right. And by the time we find out, it’s too late to tell anyone else. So…anyone getting too worked up about this stuff should check themselves. It’s OK to listen, think about it an not believe.
“it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:” Heb. 9:27
“These NDE things are less scientific than psychology itself.”
Well of course, they are not and they are not supposed to be... :)
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.