"AW" & "Hi-Cap Magazine" bans WILL sunset!

Self | 11/12/04 | Richard Brengman

[Richard-SIA]

I attended a small gathering of about 60 republican party faithful tonight.

The occasion was an informal evening meeting with Nevada Senator John Ensign (R).

This was an invitational event, I was still surprised and disappointed that it was not better attended.

This is my favorite type of event, the cost of attendence was only $25 to cover rental of the exhibit hall, the location was nearby (Reno), and there was plenty of time available to speak directly with my favorite Nevada senator.

I believe there will be another meeting tomorrow, in Las Vegas. Anyone interested can probably get information by calling his L.V. office, (702) 388-6605

Anyone who was no too timid to speak up in public was able to ask whatever question they liked.

John did not duck any of them, and resonded clearly, as a good republican should.

Many in attendence asked their questions and made their comments in comparative privacy, in one on one discussion.

Two of my questions were in the area of "gun control".

I am quoting John's replies as closely as I recall them.

Q. Will the AW & Hi-Cap Mag. bans be allowed to expire on Sept, 13th?

A. Certainly, it would take 60 votes to force a bill extending them to the floor, there are too many people like myself who will filibuster them if necessary to prevent their passing.

The democrats know the gun control issue can hurt them, it is not likely to be an issue.

Q. What are the chances of SB-659 being passed next year? (Outlaws continuing the predatory lawsuits that have been filed in an effort to bankrupt the firearms industry)

A. The bill can be expected to pass, it is a good thing that the bill will be decided in an election year, gun control is not a winning issue in an election year.

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I would encourage everyone to attend these party meetings any time they can.

You can learn where and when they are being held by simply asking your representative's staff.

Also ask them to put you on their mailing list.

The MOST effective means of contacting our reps is personal contact. This event illustrates that it does not require great wealth, just a little time and commitment.

[BushMeister]

Feingold's comment, and now Ensign saying he'll filibuster. Looking better and better...

BTW, I was looking at the homepage of one of my favorite sites (AR15.com), and I noticed that they had 7-8 gun news stories linked there, and most were positive:

AR15

[Ichneumon]

Don't count your chickens...

Never underestimate the ability of politicians to forget where they left their spines the moment the media starts manufacturing a "public outcry".

And every anti-gun group or loudmouth (media or otherwise) will be pushing this 24/7 next year, both because they want to impose more gun control, and because it's going to sunset (or be renewed) right before the election, and they'll push hard on anything they think will make campaigning unpleasant for President Bush.

[BushMeister]

Yes, I agree that we are not home free, but there is a growing sense that the AW Ban is a sham and a bad law. The House leadership has no intention of revisiting the issue (Hastert's spokesman said so), and Republicans are damned sure to remember the lesson that Al Gore learned in West Virginia, Arkansas and Tennessee in 2000: there are millions of single-issue, pro-gun voters who will crucify you if you betray them. From Bush's POV, he can make it clear to Congressional Repubs that he in no way wants to see that damned AW or Mag Ban on his desk ready for a sig 6 weeks before he stands for re-election.

[TERMINATTOR]

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[FreedomPoster]

>>there are millions of single-issue, pro-gun voters who will crucify you if you betray them.

< *raises hand* >

[Fabozz]

"From Bush's POV, he can make it clear to Congressional Repubs that he in no way wants to see that damned AW or Mag Ban on his desk ready for a sig 6 weeks before he stands for re-election."

Why should he care, though? At that point, it will be illegal for anyone except a member of the media to mention the legislation, and the media will either toss the story down the memory hole or spin it into illegibility. Thanks to McCain-Feingold, the safest time to ban guns is right before an election!

[Richard-SIA]

Some of Bush's recent statements leave me wondering if he is taking the election for granted?

Your comment re: McPain-Sweingold may be too true for comfort.
It is one reason I think it CRITICAL that we make as much effort as possible to get our view across as strongly as possible while we still can.

The best news is that the election follows the ban expiration date so closely, every candidate knows that "the people" have short memories.
But any of them who look at the results of the last couple of elections and "gun control" will know the our memory is NOT that short!

We may have lost the right to exercise the our first amendment rights just prior to an election, but we still get to vote our issues, in private.

[Cuttnhorse]

Thanks to McCain-Feingold, the safest time to ban guns is right before an election!

Great point...I might have added President Bush's name for signing the stupid thing.

[riverrunner]

I have hope I see a lot of Hi cap mags for sale with some lower prices.

[Nachoman]

All it will take is another serious attack by al-Queda on American soil to make it go away. No American will accept restrictions on gun ownership at that point.

[risk]

This is SUCH GOOD NEWS! Freedom will last as long as Americans remain armed. To be fully armed requires military-grade weapons. Captain Isaac Davis had the best military weapons his he could muster for his men before April 19th, 1775. When he met the British saying he didn't have a man who was afraid, the shot heard around the world was fired. And no senator or judge was there to tell him his weapons were "unsafe" or "unsportsmanlike."

When we are disarmed, we will soon be vanquished. Anyone can propose a constitutional amendment to revoke the second. There is no law against that. However, I question the patriotism of anyone who would encroach on our second amendment.

THIS LAW AND OTHERS LIKE IT MUST BE REVOKED!

We will be free only for another few generations at most, if not.

[Delmarksman]

Leave NO Doubt in your minds that the Anti Gun RAT's will do everything in their power to sneak some legislation into a bill that is going to pass.

Especially one that will make the Pub's look bad if they don't pass it.

It's been done before.

Plus Bush has said he would renew the AWB and do not forget that he singned the CFR Bill even though he said was unconstitional.

So expect that he would renew the AWB if it reaches his desk in any shape form or fashion.

[aomagrat]

It will pass. There are too many people for it, regardless of what they say in public.

[BadAndy]

Correct. UpChuck Schumer and FineSwine will not take the AW sunset lying down.

[risk]

ping

[Rebelbase]

Wasn't there a similar thread about CFR?

[risk]

I'm thinking about writing in "Ronald Reagan" when I vote in November if this thing is renewed.

[Joe Brower]

Regardless of what some representatives may say and think, "it's not over 'til it's over". And even if the AW ban sunsets, don't think that next year something like it won't be tacked on as an amendment to some unrelated crime bill or somesuch.

The gun-haters are sneaks, liars, and will pull whatever trick they think they can get away with to further their agenda of total civilian disarmament. Act accordingly.

[risk]

Duped or not, the result is always the same: