Eroding evolution's believability

World Net Daily ^ | November 6, 2004 | Kelly Hollowell, J.D., Ph.D.

[The Loan Arranger]

Once again, evolutionists strike when the iron is hot in an attempt to affirm the same bogus evolutionary dogma they have crammed down our throats for 150 years. Once again, they've got it wrong.

The recent discovery of a dwarf skeleton on the remote Indonesian island of Flores has scientists anxious to create another sub-class of humans. This one is called Homo floresiensis, which implies that they belong to a different species of people than those living today, we Homo sapiens.

[King Prout]

little early after The Big Game for a Crevo thread, isn't it?

[RightWingAtheist]

Ready the troops. It was inevitable that once this new species was found, we would be seeing a lot of straw-man arguments.

[mlocher]

evolution is at best a hypothesis as it pertains to the definition of a species. there is no scientific proof. but evolution is a fact in other arenas. right now we are watching the once great democratic party evolve into a quivering mass of jello.

[sully777]

Re: "Once again, they've got it wrong.

The recent discovery of a dwarf skeleton on the remote Indonesian island of Flores has scientists anxious to create another sub-class of humans. This one is called Homo floresiensis, which implies that they belong to a different species of people than those living today..."

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It's not evolution as anyone with common sense can plainly detect. No doubt about it, scientists stumbled upon Robert Rei[ch]shhhhhhhhhhhh's family burial plot.

[stopillegalimmigration]

Seems to me that there may be an argument that liberals may have(kinda) evolved from chimps.

[26lemoncharlie]

I believe they found muh Pet Monkey or Robert Rei[ch]shhhhhhhhhhhh's family burial plot. !!!!! LOL Love it!!

[Just Lori]

I will never understand the argument, I suppose, because for me it is so very easy to understand the reality. You don't even have to be a Christian to get it. God (higher being) created the heavens and the earth. That's it! Evolution is quite likely, but evolution is not possible without the One who created the possibility for evolution to occur.

[GeronL]

what new species?

I suppose we could write a 5,000 page detailed history of a 'species'based on some bones. Or we could conduct real science instead of just labeling something as a new species because they cannot explain it.

[GeronL]

evolution is a religion more than a science

[cwd26]

Gotta love crevo threads..

[GeronL]

I found a 2cm peice of bne, I have decided it is a new unknown species. I shall call it EvoMan

[GeekDejure]

I believe they found muh Pet Monkey or Robert Rei[ch]shhhhhhhhhhhh's family burial plot. !!!!! LOL Love it!!
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Love what... the monkey or the plot? ;-))

[Cheapskate]

"Are WE Not Men, WE ARE DEVO" bwahahahaha!

[jennyp]

evolution is a religion more than a science

Ironically, being a religion is supposed to be a slam at evolution! LOL!

In fine creationist fashion, the author throws out facts - some of which aren't accurate - and tries to weave them together into a vague tapestry of incriminating innuendoes.

Just one example before beddybye time:

Now add the recent finding of Flores man. He contains a jumble of features that appear borrowed from extinct primitive man. Yet he lived crossing timelines with both Homo erectus and Homo sapiens. If previous timelines are to be believed, this indicates dramatic changes in DNA and creation of a new species rather recently – not millions of years ago.

H. floriensis is a pygmy variety of either H. erectus, or of a transitional between H. erectus & H. sapiens. There's no problem fitting it into the standard timeline.

There is NO WAY that this is a skull of a standard H. sapiens (right). But Homo erectus, as the Turkana Boy skull on the left? Yeah, easily. Notice the remnant of a saggital crest (ridge at the top of the skull going from front-to-back), and the lack of our large prefrontal cortex (bulging forehead):

  

See Pharyngula for some more beautiful head shots.

BTW, there are tantalizing indications that H. floriensis may have survived well past the eruption of 12,000 years ago:

What's more, folklore evidence, which has been gathered by the researchers on the same island, provides the remarkable suggestion that H. floresiensis may have survived until at least 150 years ago. And zoological evidence from another Indonesian island, Sumatra, suggests that a potentially similar intelligent bipedal species may still be alive and well and living in a remote jungle area.

The local tradition for H. floresiensis is potentially significant. Villagers in Flores say that up until around 150 years ago, there were small, three-foot-tall hairy "people" who used to steal food from them. Known as the ebu gogos (literally "the grandmothers who eat anything"), they were tolerated by islanders until they stole a baby and ate it. Whether the ebu gogo is pure myth or an accurate recollection of H. floresiensis is at present unprovable. "The folklore material raises the real possibility that H. floresiensis actually survived until sometime in the nineteenth century," said excavation member Bert Roberts, a geochronologist at the University of Wollongong who conducted interviews with the villagers earlier this month. "Indeed, there has to be a remote possibility that they still survive today in some remote jungle area of the island."

That would be WAY COOL!

[maryz]

test &tm;

[PatrickHenry]

Evolution Ping! This list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and maybe other science topics like cosmology.
See the list's description in my freeper homepage. Then FReepmail me to be added or dropped.

[PatrickHenry]

Earlier threads on this newly-discovered creature:

Dispute Over Classification Of New Species Of Prehistoric 'Human'.
Indonesia's Lost World: Shaking Up The Family Tree (More - New Human Species).
Scientists Find Prehistoric Dwarf Skeleton.
Tiny new species of human unearthed - most important palaeoanthropological find for 50 years.
Hobbit remains found in Australia.

[ProudVet77]

I think the little fella is a Morlock.

[js1138]

Lost World alert.