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Did Muslims Visit America Before Columbus?
History News Network ^ | 5/8/06 | Rebecca Fachner

Posted on 05/09/2006 9:55:41 AM PDT by LibWhacker

Is it possible that there were Muslims in the Americas before Columbus? Some claim that Muslims came to America hundreds of years before Columbus arrived in the New World. Are the claims true?

Every elementary school student knows the story of Christopher Columbus; that he set sail from Spain and mistakenly discovered America in 1492, landing on an island in the Caribbean. Columbus encountered native inhabitants of this new world, and thinking that he had landed in India, he called them Indians. While many of the details have been mythologized or fabricated over the ensuing 500 years, Columbus’s expedition represents the first major discovery of the Americas and the first appearance of non-Native Americans. The conventional wisdom is that Columbus ended tens of thousands of years of near-total isolation for the Native Americans. Since the Americas had been initially populated (probably between 13,000 BC and 11,000 BC) there had been no engagement with populations on any other continent, save small ventures by the Norse into Northeastern Canada.

Now some are suggesting that Muslims came to the Americas, possibly as early as the 700s. These researchers argue that Muslims came from Islamic Spain, particularly the port of Delba (Pelos) during the rule of Caliph Abdullah Ibn Mohammed (888-912). A book by a Muslim historian details the story of a Muslim navigator on a journey across the ocean to an unknown land, where they found much treasure. The historian, Abul-Hassan Al-Masudi, added a map of the world to his book, one that contained “a large area in the ocean of darkness and fog (the Atlantic Ocean) which he referred to as the unknown territory (the Americas).

Columbus landed on a small Bahamian island on Oct. 12, 1492. Although Columbus renamed it, the island was called Guanahani by the native Mandinka islanders. Guanahani is believed to be a corruption of two Arabic words, brought to the island by early Muslim visitors who remained in the Caribbean and intermarried with the Native Americans. Guana means brothers and Hani is a traditional Arab name, giving rise to the idea that the island name meant “Hani Brothers.” Nearby in Honduras lived a tribe of natives known as Almamy, a corruption of the Arabic word Al-Imam, person who leads in prayer. Leo Wiener, founder of Harvard's Department of Slavic Languages, argued in an early 20th century book that these examples were the result of West African Muslims spreading throughout the New World and intermarrying with the various Indian tribes. There are other, equally fragmented, claims about an early Muslim presence in the Americas, all contained in an article published widely on the Internet by Dr. Youssef Mroueh. Dr. Mroueh; a Muslim author, historian of science and radiation control physicist, wrote this article to commemorate a thousand years of Muslim presence in the Americas in 1996.

Mroueh cited an Australian archeologist, Dr. Barry Fell, a marine biologist who claimed to find extensive archeological evidence of a significant Muslim presence in the New World in his book, Saga America. Fell drew parallels between West African peoples and Native Americans in the southwest, including cultural and linguistic similarities, and the existence of Islamic petroglyphs in the southwestern region. In particular, Fell mentioned a carving that he believed was done centuries before Columbus that states in Arabic: “Yasus bin Maria” (Jesus son of Mary), a phrase commonly found in the Koran.

Fell’s claims though have been ridiculed by professional archaeologists. They were enraged by his claims, deriding not only his findings, but his inflexible and rigid presentation of them, without the usual caution that characterizes academic pronouncements. Fell’s methods came into question, as detractors noted: “His claims for scientific rigour might hold for marine biology, but when it comes to archaeological interpretation, he ignored the usual rules of evidence.” (Keith Fitzpatrick-Matthews, Cult and Fringe)

Other claims have been similarly criticized. In 2002 the Middle East Policy Council published the Arab World Studies Notebook, a teachers guide to understanding and teaching students about Arab culture. The text claims that Arab explorers came to America in advance of Columbus, marrying Algonquin Indians whose descendants eventually became tribal chiefs with names like Adbul-Rahim and Abdallah Ibn Malik. The Notebook and its editor, Audrey Shabbas, came under intense fire for failing to provide corroborating evidence. According to the Washington Times, Shabbas and the Council were slow to respond to concerns from various sources. Peter DiGangi, director of Canada’s Algonquin Nation Secretariat calls her claims “outlandish” and says that “nothing in the tribe’s written or oral history support them.”

Another critique came from William Bennetta, professional editor and President of the Textbook League. Bennetta referred to the text’s “flights of pseudohistorical fakery.” Among other issues, he called the Notebook to task for offering no support for its claim that the Americas were seemingly full of Muslims and Muslim descendants when Columbus arrived. He noted that the Notebook does not even name the English explorers who supposedly found the Algonquin chiefs. Bennetta wrote to Shabbas to inquire about some of the unsubstantiated claims in the Notebook, and while he received a reply, “she didn’t send me [Bennetta] any citation. She made some evasive claims about some published ‘works’.”

In an article featured at David Horowitz's frontpagemag.com in 2004, David Yeagley, adjunct professor at the University of Oklahoma, called the Notebook “intellectual genocide on American Indians,” noting that the authors “simply created an Indian story to suit the purposes of the advocacy group, and published it in a school text manual as fact.” Yeagley believed that Shabbas and the other authors were simply trying to gain acceptance for Arabs, further integrating them into American culture by making them ‘native.’ Shabbas also came under fire from the conservative Thomas B. Fordham Foundation, which published a report called “The Stealth Curriculum: Manipulating America’s History Teachers.” The report was critical of many sources that are used by history teachers, noting that sometimes there is no way to ascertain the accuracy of materials provided for teachers. In particular, the report referred to the Notebook as “propaganda.”

As an end result to the continued criticism, Shabbas promised to give “careful and thoughtful attention” to the issues raised by her detractors, after many issues of the Notebook had already been sent out to teachers.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1178; 1492; ageofsail; america; before; christophercolumbus; columbus; columbusday; commoncore; discover; godsgravesglyphs; india; islam; muslims; navigation; terrorists; trop; visit
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To: LibWhacker

And now I suppose they want "the right of return." This has something in common with the Mormon theory that Jesus came to America.


41 posted on 05/09/2006 10:11:24 AM PDT by Inkie (Attn Dems: Loose Lips Sink Ships -- but hey, I guess that's your goal))
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To: RexBeach
"...Muslims also invented the safety pin, didn't they?"

Wouldn't surprise me a bit.

42 posted on 05/09/2006 10:11:34 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: N. Theknow

lol

and AR Izona and AR Kansas


43 posted on 05/09/2006 10:11:49 AM PDT by A message
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To: Yo-Yo

Portuguese cod fishermen were here fishing the grand Banks prior to Chris too.


44 posted on 05/09/2006 10:12:44 AM PDT by zek157
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To: LibWhacker

I'm wishing now that a lot of them hadn't visited SINCE Columbus.


45 posted on 05/09/2006 10:12:53 AM PDT by ALASKA
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To: LibWhacker

46 posted on 05/09/2006 10:13:30 AM PDT by keat
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To: RWR8189
The significant thing about Columbus is that he helped make the relationship permanent.

 

That's a good point.  I like to tell the PC types that all humans are indigenous to eastern Africa, and everyone everywhere else migrated. The only thing different about migrations from Europe is they they has the inclination and wherewithal to keep records.

47 posted on 05/09/2006 10:14:05 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: Red Badger
Well, that would explain the Mayas and Aztecs penchant for cutting up people while they were still alive........

And their tendency to get their primitive asses kicked
48 posted on 05/09/2006 10:14:22 AM PDT by Jaysun (Even with a paddle, shit creek ain't no picnic.)
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To: LibWhacker
WHO CARES?
49 posted on 05/09/2006 10:15:23 AM PDT by manwiththehands (No, usted no puede!)
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To: LibWhacker
For Pete's sake!


These muslims are as bad as the cold war soviet union with their lies!!! "We did it first, but we didn't tell anyone about it!" What a bunch of crap.

If the muslims HAD discovered the western world first, there would be mosques on every corner! They are floating this LIE to justify the idea that that muslims need to TAKE AMERICA BACK for muslims because THEY had it first!

And Calypso Louiey will tell you the muslims were here first because the space wheel mothership came here, just after the finished their bases on the moon.
50 posted on 05/09/2006 10:15:40 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (VPD of LCpl Smoothguy242, USMC, somewhere in Afghanistan's Kunar Province.)
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To: Red Badger

That was also my first thought.


51 posted on 05/09/2006 10:16:03 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: LibWhacker

They want to establish that America was once part of the Caliphate and under Sharia law. If they can make this claim stick, they will add our country to the "occupied territory" and will wage a never ending jihad to make sure it is once again governed by Sharia.


52 posted on 05/09/2006 10:16:11 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ has a tolerance for sinners; liberals have a tolerance for sin.)
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To: LibWhacker

It is clear that Muslims could not have visited the Americas in advance of Columbus, because there were non-Muslim Indians left alive by the time Columbus arrived.


53 posted on 05/09/2006 10:17:35 AM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: N. Theknow

Don't forget the Allah-gheny mountains.


54 posted on 05/09/2006 10:18:09 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: Koblenz

"Under the Banner of Heaven" is in re: Mormons. After I read it I was left with the impression that John Smith founded that religion so that he and his buddies could cheat on their wives and not feel bad about it b/c "it was written". Bunch of BS to me. More self-interpretation to ones own likes.


55 posted on 05/09/2006 10:19:51 AM PDT by synbad600
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To: Argus

***Everybody knows Irish monks were here way before 700.******

Anyone remember an old book published back in the early 1960's? I used to have a copy. THEY ALL DISCOVERED AMERICA. I don't remember the author.


56 posted on 05/09/2006 10:19:55 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (ISLAM is STILL the religion of the criminally insane!)
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To: LibWhacker
A book by a Muslim historian details the story of a Muslim navigator on a journey across the ocean to an unknown land, where they found much treasure.

This does not speak highly of the competence of the History News Network.

A book by a muslim historian which is unnamed and undated and is probably apocryphal, or flat out fraudulent?

Give me a break!

57 posted on 05/09/2006 10:20:10 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Mikey_1962

I've heard that several times before and I sincerely hope it's true. But was the name coined by Columbus himself or Las Casas?


58 posted on 05/09/2006 10:21:40 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: catholicfreeper
TO me its not a religious issue but a historical one...

The problem is they see it as religious. Once a land is under Sharia, it can never be otherwise. They will fight tooth and nail to "reclaim" it. This is the first salvo to change the fight from a clash of cultures to a liberation of "occupied lands". They will work hand in hand with the MSM and Mexicans and we will see the horror of Palestine before this is over...

59 posted on 05/09/2006 10:21:44 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ has a tolerance for sinners; liberals have a tolerance for sin.)
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To: GSlob
Sinbad the Sailor?

His name was really Singood the Sailor, you infidel!!

60 posted on 05/09/2006 10:21:52 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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