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I Can't Support The War On Terror
Semaj | 6/13/2006 | Semaj

Posted on 08/13/2006 6:50:11 PM PDT by semaj

Sorry folks, but I can no longer lend my support to the War on Terror. I'm tired of being lied to by our elected leadership. What am I talking you about, you ask? Specifically, when I'm a told by the President of the United States, that Islam is a "Religion of Peace".

How am I supposed to square that statement with reality? How am I supposed to support the decision and policies of our government in waging war when our leaders can't even begin to tell the truth about the enemy we're fighting?

If the president fears he may offend someone by telling it like it is, namely that we are at war with Islam, then we may as well pack up and send our troops home.

Although not a great fan of Louis Farrakhan (just between you and me, I think the man is nuts) I viewed a video of the man giving a talk in Fresno some years ago. He made a comment concerning truth, and I paraphrase, "If you're hurt by the truth, then you must be the guilty party".

If the Islamic community is hurt by the truth of their so-caled religion of peace, then they are the guilt party, and until our leaders start telling the truth abou this gutter religion, I'll have to refrain from supporting the cowardly facade they call the War on Terror.

P.S. And for any assclowns who might bemoan and decry that my argument is not supportive of the troops, kiss my grits.


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To: Miss Marple
AMEN! I am so sick of that quote being used as a subtle dig at the President. I believe that he was also trying to reassure American Muslims that our fight was with those who have high-jacked the Muslim religion in order to to advance themselves, not with those Muslims who were just trying to live their lives, raise their children, etc. The Koran not withstanding, I don't believe the "average Muslim" wants to kill all of us "infidels".
121 posted on 08/13/2006 7:52:07 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose Life!)
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To: okie01
What purpose is served by making all of them your enemy?

Such thinking is the problem. This is asymmetrical warfare. Suppose that we had worried about making global enemies when we nuked Japan. The rest of the world still condemns us for that. So what? Some of us know that we must be ruthless and fearsome toward this enemy. Half measures only prolong the suffering of innocent Muslims as well. Ponder that.

122 posted on 08/13/2006 7:52:29 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: semaj

You can't mean what you say if you don't say what you mean.


123 posted on 08/13/2006 7:53:26 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: semaj
A reasonable question. I believe in order to wage an effective war we have to first identify who we are at war with.

We're at war against the ones with the bombs. The ones who have connections to known terrorists who would kill you, your parents, your nieces and nephews.

If for whatever reason we refuse to or cannot do this, then we shouldn't send our young men and women into harms way on a false premise.

Sorry your hatred for Bush and apologies for Clinton doesnt allow you to see that there is a global jihad against western civilization. False premise? Ask your beloved Clintons, Kerry, Edwards, Biden, Schumer, et al about that. Oh yeah! I forgot, that idiot doofus Bush out-smarted them even with access to the same intel. lol

Don't ge tme wrong, I dance a jigg whenever a dirty jihadist is sent to allah. I can't remeber if it was MacArthur or Patton, that commented on the immorality of limited warfare.

I don't remember the saying but it sounds like it would've been from MacArthur because of this desire to take Japan, too, when Truman called him off.

If we are to engage in warfare, sending are young men and women to possibly die or be gravely injured, in the process, than we should have the guts to call out our enmey by name and kick the living shit out of him, until he cries uncle or until he is dead.

Don't know about "calling out our enemy by name," but I do agree with kicking the shit out them. This war should've been over a year ago.
But the global jihad continues and we need results (dead/imprisoned terrorists) far above just naming them.

124 posted on 08/13/2006 7:53:31 PM PDT by rvoitier (Democrat Party, not Democratic Party.)
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To: semaj

Hey James (semaj backwards), I guess you missed Bush finally calling them Islamo fascists. The left all have their panties in a wad over this. I agree with you that we must call our enemy by their proper names. And their religion is a cult of death. Mosques are not religious buildings, they are terrorist plotting and financing centers. Let's really piss off the left and wiretap ALL mosques.


125 posted on 08/13/2006 7:56:16 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (LIBS = Lewd Insane Babbling Scum)
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To: semaj

126 posted on 08/13/2006 7:56:54 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Get off my lawn!)
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until our leaders start telling the truth abou this gutter religion, I'll have to refrain from supporting the cowardly facade they call the War on Terror.

To hell with you and your semantics.


127 posted on 08/13/2006 7:57:58 PM PDT by perfect stranger (I need new glasses)
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To: semaj
Anybody who doesnt appreciate what America has done and President Bush, let them go to hell!


128 posted on 08/13/2006 8:00:53 PM PDT by perfect stranger (I need new glasses)
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To: Cindy

BTTT


129 posted on 08/13/2006 8:01:38 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: semaj

How about supporting A war on islamofacism, instead of THE war on terrorism? It can be a cold war at that. We need to bring back the asassination squad or just start kidnapping these clerics and imams and throwing them in Gitmo. The radical muslims will fight each other if we leave them alone. They must fight - it's their nature. They're quicker to fight amongst themselves, if we would get out the way. They hate infidels, but what they really hate is someone who calls himself a muslim AND has the audacity to fly a kite.


130 posted on 08/13/2006 8:02:18 PM PDT by H.Akston (The only good muslim, is a bad muslim.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
This is asymmetrical warfare. Suppose that we had worried about making global enemies when we nuked Japan.

One major difference:

All of Japan was at war with us.
All of Islam is not. Yet.

Much of the military success we have enjoyed to date has been achieved by waging war specifically on the Taliban, not on Afghanistan. By identifying Saddam Hussein as the enemy, not all Iraqis.

Today, the vast majority of Iraqis want us to stay in-country until the job is done. Are these people "enemies"?

131 posted on 08/13/2006 8:03:57 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: meandog
If Islamists were really moderate, there would be marching in the streets with protests signs against the jihadist terror cults...

If most Muslims were jihadists, they'd already be blowing themselves up in the streets of our cities.

132 posted on 08/13/2006 8:04:54 PM PDT by RedRover (Every election year is troll season.)
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To: semaj
Thank you for your service to our nation sir and thank you for the post.

I support the WOT; however, I do wish the President would fight this war like we fought against the Germans and the Japanese. Liberal political-correctness is tying our hands behind our back.

133 posted on 08/13/2006 8:06:52 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: semaj

Bush has not said that for a long time has he?


134 posted on 08/13/2006 8:07:35 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles (A)
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To: All
Those folks who are calling for a ZOT should debate the issue like the FReepers you are.

Obviously, the poster's comments have some grain of truth to them, because he still has an account and haven't been zotted.

135 posted on 08/13/2006 8:10:26 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: semaj

I am so sorry I clicked on this thread.

Good grief man, get a grip or get out of the way. Sounds like you can't be counted on in any real fights. I suppose it's better for us to know that about you.


136 posted on 08/13/2006 8:10:32 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel. We're all Jews now.)
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To: semaj

So what are going to do now that you can't support the war against, as the President has called them, Islamic facists, vote Democrat?


137 posted on 08/13/2006 8:17:33 PM PDT by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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To: okie01
"All of Japan was at war with us.
All of Islam is not. Yet."
Yeah, right. Just like all of Germany, Italy, and North Africa were at war with us. Even the children and 100% of the civilians. Think about it. Sometimes "innocent civilians" die in warfare. If we are so gutless and need to worry about the "Arab street", why bother? Read up on the authorizations for operations given by Congress. They clearly said Afghanistan and Iraq. You may try to justify things in your mind. Putting off the Iranian and Syrian conflicts may be prudent while we align forces. But we gave Lebanon (a failed state that harbored terrorists) a pass. I will give credit for Syria getting thrown out. Many thought that Hizb could be dismantled after that. Just did not work out that way. Nobody will talk about the KSA threat, but the Saudis are in need of a regime change as well.
138 posted on 08/13/2006 8:19:08 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I haven't called for a zot but I am perplexed by the post. What purpose does this carping about the name "Religion of Peace" serve?


139 posted on 08/13/2006 8:21:12 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: semaj

Your argument is merely devoid of reason and understanding. It is apparent that the requirements of the War on Terror call for Moslem allies such as those who are bearing the brunt of the deaths from the Terrorists, such as those who risk their lives merely by joining the armed forces of Iraq or Afganistan. Such as those who endanger their families as well as themselves by joining the police forces of the Iraqi or Afgani government.

We are getting great assistance from Moslems powers and forces such as that from Pakistan which allowed the Brits to bust up the recent plot.

If you hope to understand such complex issues as this perhaps you would start by reading The Art of War by Sun Tzu. It would help to remove the contradictions and lack of understanding within your ill considered post.

Tactics require the President to speak of Islam in such a way but our strategy is based upon other ideas.


140 posted on 08/13/2006 8:24:11 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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