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FRIEND'S ADVICE TO PREGNANT TEEN TAKES A TRAGIC TURN
www.uexpress.com ^ | 10/27/06 | Dear Abby (Abigail Van Buren)

Posted on 10/27/2006 7:33:37 AM PDT by MockTurtle

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To: wideawake

The letter, like most of her letters, is fabricated.



agreed this doesn't pass the smell test at all ,, but the leftist wack jobs would say it was a "composite" letter reflecting their holier than thou concerns and blow off the fact that it's a lie.


61 posted on 10/27/2006 8:08:54 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: MockTurtle

Pure BS. I wouldn't put anything past the LA Slimes.


62 posted on 10/27/2006 8:09:43 AM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: isthisnickcool

Unfortunately this statement is very true today. It is impossible to watch tv for a week without numerous stories of child death by parents, abuse of wives (and parents), drugs, etc., etc. The biggest drain on state human service budgets throughout the country is having to place children found in meth lab homes into foster care. Up to 50% of those budgets are involved with this type of drug abuse.

To say that the statement is absurd is a reflection on the don't see, don't tell attitude of too many of our population.


63 posted on 10/27/2006 8:10:46 AM PDT by ProudFossil
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To: HamiltonJay

As I posted earlier, the reason I think this letter to Dear Abby was a fake is that the teenage girl herself would know her father really may kill her, and wouldn't be taking advice from a friend's mother on this. It is possible, as you wrote, that the mother who (supposedly) wrote the letter would not realize how dangerous her daughter's friend's father is, but, again, the girl herself would know that. Any teenager who comes from a household where one or both parents beats the kids up would visit more normal households and see the difference and know that the more normal people would never understand what chaotic households are like. Teenagers who come from the types of families Abby is ostensibly concerned with would ne unlikely to go to court to get abortions, anyway; they would runaway. The girls who would be organized enough to go to court to get around notifying their parents are most likely to be girls from solid families, girls who do not want to face their parents' disapproval.


64 posted on 10/27/2006 8:12:00 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: MockTurtle

When I got to the third sentence I just "knew" this is a fake. Surely Abby (the people who are Abby) didn't fall for it either. This has to be a planned social message. While perusing the paper this morning I was thinking how I never read Dear Abby. Seems like a hundred years ago Ann Landers was more real.


65 posted on 10/27/2006 8:12:25 AM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: Neidermeyer
agreed this doesn't pass the smell test at all ,, but the leftist wack jobs would say it was a "composite" letter reflecting their holier than thou concerns and blow off the fact that it's a lie.

"Fake, but accurate."

66 posted on 10/27/2006 8:15:03 AM PDT by Disambiguator (If the Democrats were a stock, I would short them.)
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To: MockTurtle
Did you notice, both letters came in October - before elections?

Yes. As the Dems like to say, I find the timing very suspicious.

67 posted on 10/27/2006 8:15:15 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: A knight without armor
...Ann Landers was more real.

Unfortunately, Ann Landers was just as bad. She was always pushing the pro-abortion agenda in her column.
68 posted on 10/27/2006 8:17:14 AM PDT by MockTurtle
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To: isthisnickcool

What you failed to take into consideration was the fact that many teens live in homes where there is violence, abuse, drug problems and incest

This statement is just absurd.

Why do you say that? I personally know of teens who were molested by family members and teens who were beaten. One of my adopted sons came from a mother who kept him in the house just so he would get the beatings his drunken father meant for her. Many teens don't talk about their home lives and just try to hold on until they can get out of the home. Many parents do use drugs or drink and get violent. I don't know if it is a true story but I do know from having teenagers that my teens friends didn't always have the best home life. I know of girls who were told to get out when they became pregnant at the age of 16. Why do you think so many teens run away or try to kill themselves or turn to drugs? I know of cases where the mother has smoked pot with her kids and bought them beer. I have seen black and blue marks on girls from their parents. I don't understand why you think it is an absurd statement, it is not. Where do you get your facts that this doesn't happen? You need to take off your rose tinted glasses. I don't believe most of what Abby writes and I don't like her advice much either.


69 posted on 10/27/2006 8:17:29 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: MockTurtle
It may or may not be fabricated- how many teenagers are dragged to their abortion clinics by their parents who want to get rid of the "problem"? Let's not pretend that all parents if notified of their daughter's pregnancy, would want their daughter to keep the baby.

However, this letter doesn't talk about the other side of the issue- girls being coerced into abortions by their older lovers, or by others who want the baby dead. At least parents, even those who would demand their daughter have an abortion upon notification, would almost always have their child's (at least perceived) best interest at heart. A parent is likely to know their child's medical history that would avoid any complications. A parent would be more likely to listen to their daughter if she changes her mind at the clinic. A parent would want an abortion done as safely as possible, even if it cost more money. A parent would be their for their daughter if she need therapy. A parent can step in and work to end the underlying problem that caused the pregnancy in the first place.

A teenage boy or older predator won't do those things. A nurse or other non-related adult does'nt know the children. There is no foolproof solution that covers 100% of life's scenarios, but when it comes to the welfare of children, I am willing to bet on the parents 95%+ of the time.

70 posted on 10/27/2006 8:19:25 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: MockTurtle

Pure propaganda. Will the writer ever be called on this lie? My guess is a resounding "no".

BTW, as other posters have pointed out, "Dear Abby" passed away and the baton has been handed down to her daughter, I think. It's always nice to keep the lies going on in the tradition of the family.


71 posted on 10/27/2006 8:23:22 AM PDT by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: MockTurtle
Unfortunately, Ann Landers was just as bad. She was always pushing the pro-abortion agenda in her column.

She also said the only people who used the Internet were insane. Said she never used a computer. Yet, she had her own website.

72 posted on 10/27/2006 8:31:30 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: pandoraou812
I've never seen such things and If I did there would be hell to pay on the parents part. If you have ran across these kinds of situations what did you do? Beer, beatings? Did you call someone?

I took it that it was being inferred that this is a common thing, I don't agree with that.

73 posted on 10/27/2006 8:32:34 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (The City Council of Houston Texas is made up mostly of retards.)
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To: DesScorp

I guess he should have simply said "speak for yourself, weirdo" then.


74 posted on 10/27/2006 8:34:28 AM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: MockTurtle
Rather than use a criminal act as an excuse to usurp the right of all parents -- LEGAL GUARDIANS -- to know about the medical condition of their own children WHOM THE LAW HOLDS THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR......Abby should be asking if that father went to jail. Let's punish crime people. Adults who beat up children belong in jail.

No one has any moral clarity any longer. No matter what the excuse, even....but it wasn't his/her fault....but we don't want to offend them in case they want to believe the gospel....but everyone is a sinner....and on and on Moral clarity first. Then give hope and a road out.

75 posted on 10/27/2006 8:34:28 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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I don't mean to be rude, but I don't see how a country can tell a woman what she can do to/with her body. Probably the humane thing to do would be to develop a pill that does the deed of a wire hanger. This topic should be completely off every politician's mind.

So call me an @$$hole for my opinion, it's not going to change it.


76 posted on 10/27/2006 8:34:34 AM PDT by wastedyears ("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: yldstrk

My thoughts exactly.

I don't believe this for one bit.


77 posted on 10/27/2006 8:34:44 AM PDT by It's me
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To: theDentist

Her daughtrer is answering the letters.


78 posted on 10/27/2006 8:35:44 AM PDT by It's me
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To: utahagen
A man who would brutally beat his pregnant teenage daughter doesn't do something like that out of nowhere.

No, he is normally out of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan, Turkey, Indonesia...close to nowhere, but not out of nowhere.

79 posted on 10/27/2006 8:39:13 AM PDT by Alouette (GO TIGERS! It ain't over till it's over.)
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To: LWalk18
You are absolutely right about the abuse that occurs on the other side.

Planned Parenthood is well-known for not reporting crimes (rapes, incest, abuse) against young girls.

Here's a link to an old article on the Life Dynamics research on Planned Parenthood's aiding and abetting sexual predators. Planned Parenthood Concealing Crimes?
80 posted on 10/27/2006 8:39:53 AM PDT by MockTurtle
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