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Marco Polo discovered America 200 years before Colombus, according to map
AFP via translation ^ | August 9, 2007

Posted on 08/09/2007 3:28:45 AM PDT by HAL9000

Possible discovered of America by Marco Polo before Colomb: account in VSD

'America - its West coast - would have been discovered by Marco Polo some 200 years before Christophe Colomb, according to a chart of the Library of the Congress in Washington examined since 1943 by the FBI and whose history is told in published review VSD Wednesday. This document, brought to the Library in 1933 by Marcian Rossi, an American naturalized citizen originating in Italy, “represents a boat beside a chart showing part of India, China, Japan, the Eastern Indies and North America”, indicates the report/ratio of the librarian of the time.

Called “Map-with-ship” (Chart with a boat), this document carries “a blazon drawn under the ship, an intersection of letters giving a name: Marco Polo. The strait which separates Siberia from Alaska is the principal subject of the chart”, notes the author of the article of VSD, the author and realizer Thierry Secretan.

This one tells that an examination carried out into 1943 with the ultraviolet rays by the FBI, American safety, “made it possible to establish the presence of three inkings on this chart, which was thus modernized in time”. The report/ratio evokes several assumptions, of which the possibility that “Marco Polo, who returned to Venice in 1295, reported in Europe the first information on the existence of North America, others that those acquired by the Scandinavian explorers”.

“If this chart is well of Marco Polo, it arrived to America two centuries before Colomb and drew the strait which separates Asia from America four centuries before this last does not appear on the European charts”, Thierry Secretan underlines.

The discovery of America is allotted to Christophe Colomb, in 1492.

Marco Polo, who forever spoken in the relation about his voyages of any discovered of ground in the zone of Alaska, said to his friends on his bed of dead: “I did not write half of what I saw”, Thierry Secretan recalls.



TOPICS: Japan; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: 1492; ageofsail; alaska; america; ancientnavigation; benjaminbolshin; cartography; china; christophercolumbus; columbus; columbusday; discovery; epigraphyandlanguage; fusang; gavinmenzies; godsgravesglyphs; india; italy; japan; marcianrossi; marcopolo; navigation; newworld; thierrysecretan; worldhistory
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To: Paisan

So, THAT’S where we got the Orange Julius!


41 posted on 08/10/2007 2:16:40 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: wolfcreek
"Thanks, Blam! Wasn’t there some American artifacts found in Europe suggesting they must of been here pre-Clovis?"

Don't know about any artifacts.

Old Egyptian mummies were found to contain Cocaine and Nicotine in their systems...both of those are New World products.

42 posted on 08/10/2007 3:30:44 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: wolfcreek
"Thanks, Blam! Wasn’t there some American artifacts found in Europe suggesting they must of been here pre-Clovis?"

Don't know about any artifacts.

Old Egyptian mummies were found to contain Cocaine and Nicotine in their systems...both of those are New World products.

There's a rumor that Arizona turquoise has been found in Egyptian tombs but, I don't believe it.

43 posted on 08/10/2007 3:35:24 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: wolfcreek
Immigrants From The Other Side (Clovis Is Solutrean?)
44 posted on 08/10/2007 3:40:20 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Then there’s the fact that Columbus was a Messianic Jew, an offensive thought on so many levels. Can’t have that in our multicultural, PC society.


45 posted on 08/10/2007 3:49:40 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: driftdiver

Last sentence, third paragraph.


46 posted on 08/10/2007 6:51:10 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: HAL9000

Of course he could have copied the information on the map from Chines or other sources when he visited Asia.


47 posted on 08/10/2007 8:02:58 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: IrishCatholic
Where do you get 20,000,000?

That figure is the often quoted estimated population of indigenous humans on this continent when Columbus stumbled on the "new world".

The area I live in alone had large populations over a long period of time as evidenced by the number of artifacts that are uncovered (i.e., mounds, pottery, arrowheads, flint drills, etc) almost every day. You can hardly turn a spade of dirt here in the Sequatchie Valley without finding woodlands era artifacts. Paleo artifacts are a bit more rare, but they are found fairly regularly by those who look.

48 posted on 08/10/2007 8:30:34 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Made in China: Treat those three words like a warning label)
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To: muawiyah
Don't be silly.

Well, I was being a bit silly, but I guess it just irks me when folks talk about Columbus "discovering" America as if nobody ever knew this continent was here. Millions of folks knew it was here, they just didn't bother to pass the word to Europe......

49 posted on 08/10/2007 8:38:06 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Made in China: Treat those three words like a warning label)
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To: Paradox

That point of view is not popular here. It has to involve white people or it does not count.


50 posted on 08/10/2007 8:59:22 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Thermalseeker
they just didn't bother to pass the word to Europe

There was no Europe. There were countless kingdoms in that place and most of them knew about America and several were already engaged in trade with America. Each was keeping its dealings with America secret from the rest in hopes of retaining trade advantages.

51 posted on 08/10/2007 9:02:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: fish hawk
That point of view is not popular here. It has to involve white people or it does not count.

Try SunkenCiv's ping list. We have very open minds about pre-history.

52 posted on 08/10/2007 9:13:22 AM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Beware unskilled translators. Learn to read between the lines.


53 posted on 08/10/2007 10:02:11 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
The discovery of America is allotted to Christophe Colomb, in 1492.

The discovery of America is attributed to Christopher Columbus, in 1492.

The key is ... who followed up on their discovery in a big way -- and that was the Spaniards. It doesn't matter who discovered America if only a group of people knew about it and did nothing with the information.

54 posted on 08/10/2007 10:52:02 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Thermalseeker
Actually, most of the residents of the Americas had no idea how extensive the Western Hemispheric main landmass was.

Hadn't a clue.

You could say that even the Indians didn't discover America.

55 posted on 08/10/2007 10:55:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Between the Lines
The problem with this map is that KOREA IS MISSING.

No doubt the guy who drew it was from Korea so he made it the biggest feature. Not only that he made the Southern tip of the peninsula quite large. That's the place marked Kamchatka.

The landmass to the right someone marked Alaska is actually Japan.

56 posted on 08/10/2007 10:59:01 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: stormer

Got several such examples ~ Clovis points are clearly derived from the European tradition.


57 posted on 08/10/2007 11:00:35 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RaceBannon

The United States of Polo?

Polo, Ohio?


58 posted on 08/10/2007 11:02:19 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: g33k355
"Then how about the Arizona turquiose in Egyptian tombs? How did it get there???"

Space Aliens of course....haven't you ever heard of Roswell?
59 posted on 08/10/2007 11:19:03 AM PDT by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: HAL9000

What about the Chinese characters on the map?


60 posted on 08/10/2007 11:21:48 AM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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