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1 posted on 08/30/2011 5:13:06 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: Nightshift

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2 posted on 08/30/2011 5:13:32 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: tutstar

This was discussed long ago. American law doesn’t care what the parents do ~ they can’t give up the chillun’s citizenship ~


3 posted on 08/30/2011 5:14:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: LucyT; BP2; rxsid; null and void; Candor7; melancholy

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4 posted on 08/30/2011 5:14:56 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: tutstar

So it still doesn’t matter, unless he enrolled at Occidental on a foreign student visa or obtained funding based on being an Indonesian citizen studying in America. Those records have been scrubbed, his damage is done, we just need to replace him in 2012.


8 posted on 08/30/2011 5:26:50 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Maxine Waters tells Tea Party to "go to hell" - no thanks, I have no desire to move to your district)
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To: tutstar

“Obama’s American mother, Ann Dunham, separated from her first husband, Barack Obama Sr., in 1963 when the president was 2 years old.”

I have never seen evidence that the two ever lived together at all, so there was no “separation”. Obama Sr. just left Hawaii.


9 posted on 08/30/2011 5:27:40 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: tutstar

To all those critics of this issue out there (like Bill O’Reilly for example):

There’s a difference between using this issue to “change the election results” and using it to establish the qualifications of a CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

Yes, Obama is a sitting president and according to YOU (not me) we should be respectful of the fact that he won the election.

But that was the LAST ELECTION.

Going into the NEXT ELECTION it’s fair by ANY STANDARD (including the ridiculously soft standards of “pundits” like Bill O’Reilly) to investigate this issue thoroughly.


10 posted on 08/30/2011 5:27:43 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: tutstar; All

Like so many others, I wanted to see Mr. Obama adjudicated as ineligible for office.....which I personnally think he is because I don’t think he is a NBC in COTUS sense. However, in the case of Indonesian citizenship....I “believe” (I don’t know), that a child cannot renounce his citizenship by being adopted. So, being adopted by an Indonesian would not invalidate his U.S. citizenship. I do “believe” (I don’t know) that he had to clarify his status upon reaching adulthood.

Whatever, the SCOTUS has (for whatever reason - I don’t know) punted on this issue. We are powerless to force the issue....unless we go into rebellion...which I will not do.


11 posted on 08/30/2011 5:27:54 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: tutstar

It doesn’t matter. No court or legislative body in this country has the integrity, the ethics or the honor required to do anything about this. As far as I’m concerned they are all complicit.


17 posted on 08/30/2011 5:44:34 AM PDT by pgkdan (Time for a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: tutstar

Zero has always been UNqualified to be POTUS. He may be DISqualified too, but at this point it is academic. The only way to get him out of Air Force One is to vote him out next year.

Sadly, U.S. citizenship is handed out indiscriminately, like a prize in a Cracker Jack box. It is one of the signs of Empire, like Roman citizenship.

We now have millions of people running around with “dual” citizenships. If you are well connected and have enough money you can potentially be a “citizen” of a dozen countries at the same time. For example, you can buy one from Belize or claim one from Ireland if a grandparent was from there.


19 posted on 08/30/2011 6:10:33 AM PDT by Malesherbes (- Sauve qui peut)
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Let’s consider a thought problem here for a moment...strictly for conversational purposes.

Let us say that next February, undeniable and unshakable, proven public proof that Obama was not only ineligible to even run for President, but calls into question his eligibility to run for his former Senate seat as well.

Then what?? Someone explain to me exactly what they think would happen next, if anything.

I don’t think there would be any more support for Premier Hussein’s impeachment beyond the Republicans in the House, and I am not convinced that all of them would vote to impeach. Even if they did, the Democrats and all of the RINO Republicans in the Senate would never in a million years vote to convict.

And even if Hussein was impeached, convicted and removed from office before the election, who here has warm fuzzy feelings about Joe Biden ascending to the Presidency and perhaps naming Nancy Pelosi as his Veep??

Thomas Jefferson wrote in his “Notes on the State of Virginia”: “The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten hold of us. It is better to keep the wolf out of the fold than to trust to drawing his teeth and talons after he shall have entered.”

I fear that because we collectively allowed a very talented face-dancer to casually work around our election laws, we now have the wolf in our midst and as Jefferson pointed out it will be much harder to do something about it after the fact.

I also fear that the Country has suffered such grave economic damage from this community agitator and his Communist friends that we are in much more danger than many would care to admit and that even more damage is going to be done before we can get them out of office in January 2013.


20 posted on 08/30/2011 6:12:07 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Obama got mostly Ds and Fs all through college and law school. Keep saying it.....)
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To: tutstar
They are NOT going to remove him from office.

Nor are they going to make Obama prove anything.

So this issue isn't even worth talking about.

The laws do not apply to the important people (liberals and their constituencies).
24 posted on 08/30/2011 6:22:08 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: tutstar
Evidence continues to mount that President Obama was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, raising concerns over his presidential eligibility.

Does that evidence perhaps include the legal papers finalizing the Indonesian adoption? Or something showing when the Indonesian law changed to allow someone of Obama's age to become an Indonesian citizen upon adoption?

25 posted on 08/30/2011 6:23:58 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: tutstar
F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.

31 posted on 08/30/2011 6:56:02 AM PDT by kabar
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To: tutstar

we’ll know after he’s out of office.

the left will be bragging about it.


45 posted on 08/30/2011 7:35:17 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: tutstar
If Obama had Indonesian citizenship for a period, it may not necessarily have changed his U.S. citizenship status, but it could raise loyalty concerns.

I don't think we should be questioning the loyalty of a 6 year-old boy because of choices his parents made. Either way, the Constitution deals with such concerns with a 14 year residency requirement, which Obama meets.

54 posted on 08/30/2011 8:13:12 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: tutstar

If it is to be proven that Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, it first has to proved that the ‘Dreams from My Father’ Lolo Soetoro narrative is actually true.

Therefore, these discrepancies/oddities have to somehow be explained away:

1. When did Ann & Lolo get married? This simple question is impossible to correctly answer.

2. Why is there a 3rd grade photo of Barry in Hawaii?

3. Why is there the mathematical oddity that ALL of Barry’s Indonesia photos are black-and-white?

4. Why did Ann choose not to receive child support from Lolo, even though Lolo was wealthy?

5. Why are there NO pictures of Lolo & Maya together after 1971?

6. Last but not least, why is there a STRONG resemblance between Maya & Frank Marshall Davis?


116 posted on 08/30/2011 11:51:41 AM PDT by Dakkster
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To: tutstar

Give it a rest. A parent cannot take away the citizenship of his or her child.


137 posted on 08/30/2011 1:21:08 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I feel really uncomfortable, because I love loving him," --brilliant Matha's Vinyud liberal)
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Did Lolo drink ? I notice he died of liver failure


147 posted on 08/30/2011 1:55:12 PM PDT by woofie
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in 1963 when the president was 2 years old

Obama was president at two?

191 posted on 08/30/2011 5:18:21 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: tutstar

obumpa


335 posted on 09/01/2011 4:20:36 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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