Skip to comments.To Avoid Debacles Like Roy Moore, Repeal The 17th Amendment
Posted on 11/17/2017 5:51:31 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
With less than a month to go before Alabamas special election to fill the Senate seat left vacant by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Republican candidate Roy Moore refuses to quit the race amid fallout over credible allegations of sexual assault dating from the 1970s, including that he initiated a sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl when he was 32.
Some polls still show Moore leading his Democratic opponent Doug Jones, while a poll conducted by the National Republican Senate Committee earlier this week shows Moore trailing Jones by 12 points.
Senate Republicans are calling on Moore to withdraw from the race, saying hes unfit to serve and threatening not to seat him if hes elected, but Moore isnt backing down. His campaign has called the allegations a politically motivated witch hunt and Moore has vowed to stay in the race, which means theres still a chance the people of Alabama might elect him to the U.S. Senate.
All of this could have been avoided if wed just repealed the Seventeenth Amendment.
The Seventeenth Amendment says U.S. senators must be elected by popular vote, instead of by state legislatures. Adopted in 1913 during the height of the Progressive Era, the amendment supersedes the provisions in the Constitution that required senators to be elected by state legislatures.
The idea that state legislatures would elect senators might seem odd nowadays, but creating some distance between the popular vote and the election of senators was crucial to the Founders grand design for the republic. The original idea, spelled out in The Federalist Papers, was that the people would be represented in the House of Representatives and the states would be represented in the Senate. Seats in the House were therefore apportioned according to population while every state, no matter how large its populace, got two seats in the Senate.
The larger concept behind this difference was that Congress needed to be both national and federal in order to reflect not just the sovereignty of the people but also the sovereignty of the states against the federal government. In Federalist No. 62, James Madison explained that Congress shouldnt pass laws without the concurrence, first, of a majority of the people, and then of a majority of the states.
Besides tempering the passions of the electorate, empowering state legislatures to elect senators was meant to protect the states from the encroachments of the federal government. The tension was (and still is) between the dual sovereignty of the national government and the states. Writing in Federalist No. 39, Madison explains that while the House of Representatives is national because it will derive its powers from the people of America, the Senate will derive its powers from the States, as political and coequal societies. Weve lost much of this today, but the jurisdiction of the federal government, wrote Madison, extends to certain enumerated objects only, and leaves to the several States a residuary and inviolable sovereignty over all other objects.
The Founders were nearly unanimous in this view of dual sovereignty and why it necessitated the Senate be elected by state legislatures. Only one member of the Constitutional Convention, James Wilson, supported electing senators by popular vote. But it wasnt long before the idea gained traction. The Seventeenth Amendment was first submitted to the Senate in 1826, amid the countrys first real wave of populism, which culminated in the election of President Andrew Jackson in 1828.
By the time the next big wave of populism swept America in the late nineteenth century, calls to amend the Constitution and elect senators by popular vote had grown much louder. When the House passed a joint resolution proposing an amendment for the election of senators in 1911, it was part of a populist anti-corruption movement that included among its prominent supporters William Jennings Bryan, who as secretary of state certified the amendment after 36 states ratified it in May 1913.
The chief argument in favor of it was that Gilded Age industrial monopolies like Standard Oil exerted too much control over state legislatures, and hence too much control over the U.S. Senate. To be sure, late-nineteenth and early-twentieth-century state legislatures were notoriously corrupt. At almost every level of government, rank corruption and machine politics was the norm. President Benjamin Harrison, elected in 1888, said upon learning that much of his support had been bought, I could not name my own cabinet. They had sold out every position in the cabinet to pay the expenses. In 1897, Mark Twain famously quipped, It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native criminal class except Congress.
The populist fervor during this time shouldnt be overstated, though. Ironically, the Seventeenth Amendment, which was purportedly about giving the people a greater voice in government, was passed seven years before the Nineteenth Amendment, which gave half the country (women) the right to vote. And, of course, Jim Crow laws in the South continued to suppress the votes of blacks and poor whites.
But were no longer living in the era of late-nineteenth-century industrial monopolies. While government corruption was in many ways codified by the New Deal, we also no longer face the same kind of rank corruption as that in the Gilded Age.
Its time, in other words, to reconsider the Seventeenth Amendment. Given our current wave of populism, it might be wise to reintroduce some of those old ideas about federalism, and temper the passions of the electorate by letting states, not the people, elect senators.
After all, its not like the Seventeenth Amendment has reformed the Senate into a serious deliberative body that responds to the wishes of the people. Were it not for the Seventeenth Amendment, we might have never had Strom Thurmond hang around the Senate for 48 years, serving until he was 100 years old. We might not have had former KKK Grand Wizard Robert Byrd serve for 51 years. We might have even escaped the scurrilous and corrupt Theodore G. Bilbo of Mississippi, also a prominent Klansman, who once said Once a Ku Klux, always a Ku Klux. And who knows, after Chappaquiddick, the Massachusetts legislature might have picked someone other than Ted Kennedy to represent the state.
Of course, maybe we would have ended up with all those guys anyway. But theres a decent chance at least some of them eventually would have been voted out by their state legislatures. Just like theres a decent chance, were it not for the Seventeenth Amendment, we might not be facing the prospect of Senator Roy Moore of Alabama.
Credible, my butt.
I’m not sure I understand how Roy Moore is a debacle.
To agree with this article, you have to accept a flimsy premise, that Moore is guilty of the charges of obscene and reprehensible behavior. I’m not sure I accept the premise in the first place.
Wouldn’t matter. You could have a Roy Moore problem with a representative, a governor or a dog catcher. Removing the popular vote for Senators eliminates nothing.
I totally agree. Senators look out for themselves, are the playthings of lobbiests. The states are not represented
So we can give a free check to Mitch McConnell and let him choose?
Or give any other group of people already in the senate the power to keep and protect their status quo?
Elections are about change. If we are displeased with the current power structure in the senate we vote and change it,
So to the author of this article: No! Heck No!
I’m praying for a Moore win.
They despise him because he can’t be pushed around.
They hate anyone that is MAGA,
I want Bannon to succeed in primarying many RINO a-holes next election.
There are no political parties now....there are just those that stand with Trump and his values and those that support the deep-state.
I agree with repeal of 17th.
I disagree with idea that Moore is a debacle...the debacle is the nature of the GOP-E.
Ive said this for years. The two worst mistakes ever made were the ratification of the 16th and 17th Amendments.
Dont even get me started on the 19th....
I’m all for ditching the 17th amendment. Though I would argue there are about 90 senators who are far worse disasters than Moore.
Mitch McConnell does not control the Kentucky State Legislature.
No you don’t. Just toss away everything in the article except for repealing the 17th would make our country great again.
It was the Seventeenth that gave us people like McConnell and his inordinate power; people like him wanted it. If not for that, he would have to represent his state and his state alone, and have zero power in DC.
There are lots more reasons to support the repeal of the Seventeenth than the one listed in the headline, and the one in the headline is not one at all. Not all Senators were appointed prior to the Seventeenth, furthermore. The Seventeenth got rid of our republic and pushed it closer to a “democracy”.
I have been getting bombarded over on Twitter with this crap. The only thing more screwed up than John McCain and Jeff Flake is the Arizona legislature.
Who in the world wants to give state capital elites the power to elect senators? Ours would just send McCain and Flake back forever. And we would have no way to remove them.
A constitutional amendment decided this, for crying out loud.
The Seventeenth turned the Senate into a Politburo, where states had to lobby to grab back the power and representation that was snatched from themand even worse, left them competing with foreign lobbies. It was a bad idea with no purpose other than the centralization of power and taking away power from the states.
The Federalist is losing ITS OWN credibility by publishing bilge such as this. Judge Moore is not the debacle or the villain here. The villains are the corrupt Mitch McConnell and the entirety of the Swamp trying to destroy Moore to protect their Swamp from incoming Swamp Drainers.
Ummm, if the 17th Amendment weren’t passed, we would not have Obamacare today. Any senator who was for it, could have been pulled in and removed by their state.
Senators were never intended to be direct-elected. That was for the House of Representatives. Senators were supposed to represent their state.
The author stretches the meaning of “credible’ to the breaking point.
Yeah, maybe representing a small fraction of the obscenity and reprehensibility of the Kennedy's behavior, starring and including JFK. How can this pass? How can this pass? This is nothing but a reign of terror.
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