Posted on 12/23/2018 2:00:52 AM PST by vannrox
Many posts argue that gun confiscation can’t happen in the US because there are too many guns and too many gun owners. I think this grossly oversimplified and wrong. First, there must be a distinction between mass or universal gun confiscation and more limited gun confiscations. The government is not going to announce a universal gun confiscation because that would arouse the passions of gun owners in vast numbers beyond the capacity of the government to enforce. Public awareness of even a long term plan to achieve universal confiscation would cause 10’s of millions of gun owners to dig in and fight.
A much more likely scenario is a graduated plan without announced targets or goals. Legislation would be passed empowering law enforcement to confiscate guns for subjective, hard-to-precisely define reasons. For example, the chief of police or sheriff of each jurisdiction would be authorized to confiscate all weapons from individuals with reported mental health “issues”. Or the language could be “in the interest of public safety” or “based on a pattern of threatening social media activity”. In practice, the law would be used very selectively at first so as to minimize a sense of urgency or alarm. No one is going to come running to defend the one or two people in their town who might be subject to gun confiscation that just might be for a legitimate reason.
IMHO, it would proceed from there like the frog in the hot water, the government gradually ratcheting up enforcement and expanding categories and definitions slowly until, one day there is no longer a sufficient number of gun owners in each community to defend their neighbors against gun confiscation and law enforcement will have no deterrent to make it universal.
I’m not saying this will happen, but I don’t think you can rely on the sheer numbers alone. Rather what is needed is Vigilance, awareness, political activism and, finally, the willingness to take action if all else fails.
Ping for a good read.
That is the tipping point. How do they plan on forcing people to take their weapons to a public locker?
Its free, I just downloaded it. Nazi? Really?
Um, they don’t go out in public anymore. They have servants doing everything.
Let me guess. You're one of those "true blue patriots" who believes that all is lost, and that there's nothing we can do to fight back.
Is that what you believe? If so, why are you here?
If they are at your door, it is too late, for you. If they come for your neighbors, consider it your last warning. One thing to keep in mind, if someone is across the street, what they own and love is somewhere else, and at that particular time, probably unguarded.
Hide your guns and wait for the right moment to use them. Civil disobedience is a must should we ever get to that point.
JoMz
Nope there is not nothing we can do, I just claim that we won't. It will have to get much much worse before the people will rise from their stupor.
Those here that think Huber's investigation will produce indictments and trials are the same ones that beat their chest and claim they will never take their guns seem to totally ignore what happened at Waco and sat on their duffs while it happened, in Texas no less.
If Clinton had sent the military in to disarm the whole population of Waco, you would have seen a very different response.
What unfolded there was disgraceful, I agree, but it was a targeted attack on one small group who were painted as weirdos and kooks. That is why the locals didn’t rise up to stop it. Also, no one realized just how far the feds would push things in that incident, until it happened.
In retrospect, we are all shamed.
Small Group painted as weirdos. Could have been your neighbor or anyone and that is how they do it. Remember how we painted the Hun and the Nip during WW II?
I watched Jack Brooks hearing justifying the attack, he was disgusting.
A fool learns from his mistakes. A truly wise man learns from the mistakes of others.
You missed my broader point.
If they'd tried to do that to the whole city of Waco, the entire region would have resisted with deadly force.
This is why they'll never come for our guns. It would spark an armed conflict and they'd be the losers.
They know this, which is why they've gradually tried to peel our guns away from us with gun control laws and propaganda.
They won’t be breaking down every door, just enough doors to scare the weaker ones to give them up voluntarily, lest they follow those who were the examples.
I have pointed out previously that when they are going to go “full confiscation” they are going to know exactly where your weapons are located by scanning your home with radar and backscatter scanners before they ever approach. They will do this scanning at night while you’re asleep, hit your home with a “source” via drones and know every inch of your abode. You won’t have a chance... The no-knock warrant will allow them to kick the door down and basically execute you when you reach for your weapon to defend yourself.
Nonetheless; he has seen a lot of stuff and much of his advice and cautions are very practical and would apply anywhere.
Well that cheers me Up.
I’m moving to Alaska so
The Spooks can freeze.
They'll all have the same home address - a robotics factory in China.
The police and especially the military are not eager, if willing at all, to go door-to-door confiscating guns from Americans. Squads of combat robot avatars controlled remotely by contractors offshore or acting according to autonomous programming, will have zero compunction. It may be difficult if not impossible to find a human-in-the-loop to intimidate.
The first confiscations are the beginning of CWII.
That very day, everyone, everywhere.
Quite a few years ago the Governor of Tennessee tried to get an income tax passed to fund the government.
Hundreds of people drove round and round the State House honking their horns to stop the debate on the bill.
Several legislators leading the charge received death threats -— the people told the legislators that, if income tax was passed, and they didn’t pay, the government would send people with guns to collect the money … so the people would short cut the process and kill the legislators now rather than kill the cops later.
This is how Phil Valentine got his start on radio.
BFL
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