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Stossel: Sweden is Not a Socialist Success (video)
youtube ^ | John Stossel

Posted on 02/10/2019 9:31:01 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: caww

Thanks; the situation described with foreign children is really coming to a head here in the NYC metro area (I’m in northeastern NJ). Our school taxes are 75% of those high property taxes, and our public school student populations are probably less than 25% “American”.


21 posted on 02/10/2019 10:36:51 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

Yes, that’s a good point; defense spending was minimal in those areas.


22 posted on 02/10/2019 10:37:28 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: FreedomPoster
The Swede said something like, “We’re more Socialist then you, but we’ve seen the problem and have reversed direction. You’re still moving down that road full speed.”

True, and unless voters wise up (slim chance of that) we'll end up in a "Utopian" mess.

I visited Norway a couple of years ago and was met with many "holier than thou" comments from Norwegians about how environmentally pure they are compared to the U.S. It's true -- Norway is a beautiful and "environmentally-correct" country. But its cradle-to-grave socialism and clean environment are only made possible by its North Sea oil that is exported around the world to create the CO2 menace preached by the Gorites. Its socialism depends on world oil prices and the hope the oil wells keep producing. Total hypocrisy.

23 posted on 02/10/2019 10:40:50 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: kearnyirish2

Your point is a good one. Some of this is the result of unintended consequences. The ripple of effect of birth control and worse, abortion, comes to mind.


24 posted on 02/10/2019 10:54:02 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: exnavy

Socialism is not a form of government. Any form of government can adopt socialism. Socialsm is an economic system.


25 posted on 02/10/2019 11:09:02 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: gibsonguy

Thanks; it ties directly to the costs of socialism, and in more than one way. Examples in my area are the fact that employers don’t want to be taxed heavily for socialist programs, so they leave; this creates an unstable employment situation, so young people don’t risk having families (only to find themselves unemployed). Unemployment in Western Europe has been a nagging problem for decades, and that instability creates very pessimistic young people - and now we are living through the same scenario..


26 posted on 02/10/2019 11:11:29 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: caww

“Further the Scandinavian countries don’t have near the population of the US so it’s not comparable..”

Not has it been multi-racial. Wait till the joys of diversity kick in.


27 posted on 02/10/2019 11:27:50 AM PST by aquila48
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To: Bernard Marx

Norway = ~7 US House Districts......


28 posted on 02/10/2019 11:34:15 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: griswold3

Sweden taxes individuals heavenly but has very low corporate taxes.

The government returns a lot of this money in the form of services to the individuals, such as health care, education, retirement, welfare etc. It’s a policy that assumes people are generally irresponsible and waste their money on frivolous things, so the government takes a big chunk and provides the basic, important things to all the people.

Meanwhile, the corporations, the goose that lays the Golden eggs, are treated well.

Not necessarily a bad system.


29 posted on 02/10/2019 11:40:42 AM PST by aquila48
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To: aquila48

I think it is a horrible system, what in the world would make ANYONE want to work harder to be very successful when the government takes most of what you make!! Working more hours or harder than others doesn’t get you better health care, or a better education you get the same give outs as all other citizens BUT of course the more money you make the more money they take to care for other citizens that don’t work at all!!!


30 posted on 02/10/2019 11:48:43 AM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: aquila48

Oh it’s already kicking in and the nationals are NOT happy campers anymore.


31 posted on 02/10/2019 11:50:11 AM PST by caww
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

“BUT of course the more money you make the more money they take to care for other citizens that don’t work at all!!!”

For a system like that to work you need an honest, morally upright, homogeneous populace with shared values and a strong sense of community. I think Scandinavians generally fit that description, at least until recently.

I think people that willingly didn’t carry their own weight were ostracized.


32 posted on 02/10/2019 12:02:48 PM PST by aquila48
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To: RoosterRedux

NEW 2 MINUTE FED UP PROFESSOR #37 Am I alone in believing that we are facing a deeper divide than that between the statists on the left and traditional Constitutionalists but we are now divided into the sane and the insane? It’s getting downright CRAZY out here. It begs the almost rhetorical question of TO WHAT END? Be afraid! BE VERY AFRAID!! https://youtu.be/t173HOd43TE


33 posted on 02/10/2019 12:03:25 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: aquila48

the culture of Sweden has been corrupted seriously by Islam. The pattern of Islamic immigrants is to increase demands on welfare and social services.


34 posted on 02/10/2019 12:08:43 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: morphing libertarian

Yep. They think they can turn anyone into honest responsible moral Swedes. They’re in for a surprise.


35 posted on 02/10/2019 12:40:52 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Nifster
They ain’t socialists. They are communists. No point in polishing a turd

Bingo!

36 posted on 02/10/2019 12:43:33 PM PST by GOPJ (We renew our resolve America will NEVER be a socialist country. We are born free we will STAY free!)
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To: RoosterRedux
AOC decried the US economy as unjust and unfair because it has so many billionaires.

AOC touted Sweden as an economy to be admired and emulated.

America has 7 billionaires for every 1 million population.

Sweden has 14 billionaires for every 1 million population.

Hm.

37 posted on 02/10/2019 12:47:27 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: RoosterRedux

Bump!


38 posted on 02/10/2019 1:58:29 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Teacher317

Where is you data from?

Sweden 20 out of a pop of 10.22M
Netherlands 20 out of a pop of 17M
Denmark 15 out of a pop of 5.77M

/ceoworld.biz/2018/03/01/30-countries-with-the-most-billionaires-2018/


39 posted on 02/10/2019 1:59:39 PM PST by NoLibZone (Trump's exposed the life long, professional ruling class that can't be removed without violence.)
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To: NoLibZone

Denmark 15 Billionaires out of a pop of 5.77M = 2.6 per 1M pop

Sweden 20 Billionaires out of a pop of 10.22M = 2 per 1M pop

US 571 Billionaires of 325 M = 1.7 per 1m pop

Netherlands 20 Billionaires out of a pop of 17M= 1.20 per 1M pop


40 posted on 02/10/2019 2:08:52 PM PST by NoLibZone (Trump's exposed the life long, professional ruling class that can't be removed without violence.)
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