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Stossel: Sweden is Not a Socialist Success (video)
youtube ^ | John Stossel

Posted on 02/10/2019 9:31:01 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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Remember this when you hear Democrats speak of wanting a Swedish kind of socialism:

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When under the heavy tax and spend version of socialism (back in the 1980's), the Swedish tax authorities did not bring in enough money to fund Sweden's welfare state. There were waiting lines to get health care, people couldn't get the pension they depended on for the future…at that point the Swedish population just said enough. We can't do this.

Sweden then reduced government's role they cut public spending and privatized the national rail network, abolished certain government monopolies, eliminated inheritance taxes, sold state-owned businesses like the maker of Absolut Vodka, lowered taxes, and reformed the pension system so that it wasn't unsustainable.

The results from the spending cuts and privatization were that this impoverished peasant nation developed into one of the world's richest countries .



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1 posted on 02/10/2019 9:31:01 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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BTW, I don’t think U.S. socialists like Bernie and AOC want a Swedish kind of socialism. That is just a way to get the door opened to REAL socialism...and that is the kind they want.


2 posted on 02/10/2019 9:34:04 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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Sweden has a school voucher system which creates competition between schools and this resulted in a big improvement not only in private schools but in public schools which were in the neighborhood of such private schools (and had to compete with them).


3 posted on 02/10/2019 9:42:13 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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The police in Sweden will also give you a story of the condition of their country.....but they are not allowed to report about it. So what are they hiding..indeed!

Further the Scandinavian countries don't have near the population of the US so it's not comparable..

4 posted on 02/10/2019 9:49:35 AM PST by caww
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To: RoosterRedux

ADD the “Progressive Income Tax’ and a ‘Value Added Tax’ (sales tax of 25%)
See Wikipedia for how bad it is. Only the first 18,000 kronor is not taxed. (That is approx. 1941.00USD)


5 posted on 02/10/2019 9:55:06 AM PST by griswold3 (Just another unlicensed nonconformist in a dangerous Liberal world.)
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To: caww

Sweden ~= 13 House Districts


6 posted on 02/10/2019 9:57:56 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: RoosterRedux

Sweden is not socialist, parlimentary democracy.


7 posted on 02/10/2019 9:59:09 AM PST by exnavy (american by birth and choice, I love this country!)
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Whoa! Knew a lot of that but had no clue that making $37k put you in a 60% tax bracket.

I think everyone should have "skin in the game" and pay some tax but man, can you imagine when some of these commie types try that here?

8 posted on 02/10/2019 10:01:29 AM PST by Proud_texan (McCarthy was right)
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To: caww

Western European socialism is a complete hoax because it is all predicated on a lack of children; people accept higher taxes because most aren’t raising families, and those funds can be directed back towards the adults’ needs because they have few children to provide for as a nation.

Socialism is meeting stiffer opposition in the US because many childless American taxpayers can easily see that their tax revenues are steered directly towards foreign children here. Europeans can now plainly see that their money is now directed into the pockets of foreign invaders who hate them - and the ageing taxpayers want change now.


9 posted on 02/10/2019 10:01:57 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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Unfortunately a lot of people have zero education on history or demographics, let alone even know where countries are on a map! But that’s what happens when students are educated on social issues alone.


10 posted on 02/10/2019 10:02:53 AM PST by caww
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Sweden was a place where semi socialism semi worked. It almost worked because it was a homogeneous populace with a strong a work and value ethic. Then they put a pack of radical feminists in charge and started importing murdering savages. So that was that.


11 posted on 02/10/2019 10:08:17 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: RoosterRedux

They ain’t socialists. They are communists. No point in polishing a turd


12 posted on 02/10/2019 10:08:26 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Bernie and that ditz AOC want central american totalitarian shithole style socialism.


13 posted on 02/10/2019 10:10:11 AM PST by farming pharmer
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I agree with your first paragraph....haven’t thought of it in the way you spoke in your second paragraph..hummmm-mmmm.


14 posted on 02/10/2019 10:11:31 AM PST by caww
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Sweden is an islamist success...and so by the day.


15 posted on 02/10/2019 10:18:37 AM PST by onedoug
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I remember reading a quote from a Swede in the 1990s in an article in National Geographic, back before I kicked them to the curb for being insufferable Leftists.

The Swede said something like, “We’re more Socialist then you, but we’ve seen the problem and have reversed direction. You’re still moving down that road full speed.”


16 posted on 02/10/2019 10:19:46 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Nationalists however are gaining support as more people complain about the sustainability of the ‘cradle-to-grave system’ for their 10 million people. .......they won’t lower taxes in the coming years, precisely because of the need to finance welfare costs with the influx of immigration.


17 posted on 02/10/2019 10:23:10 AM PST by caww
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To: kearnyirish2

Plus since WWII the cost for military and defense of Europe has been paid for by the US not Europe.


18 posted on 02/10/2019 10:25:14 AM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: RoosterRedux

Dead Country Walking.


19 posted on 02/10/2019 10:26:11 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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While a homogenous hard-working population helps, it just delays the inevitable; the savages were imported into Sweden for the same reason the US imports them: a negative birthrate among the native population. Now when they trumpet a higher US birthrate, you have to note WHO is giving birth - they are now considered “Americans”.

Few people have a work ethic like Germans, yet even they were importing people decades ago (Turks in West Germany, Vietnamese in the communist East); for many years Ireland was the last Western European country with a birthrate that would replace its population, and they may not even have that anymore.


20 posted on 02/10/2019 10:35:15 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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