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Eat Less Red Meat, Scientists Said. Now Some Believe That Was Bad Advice.
The New York Times ^ | Sept. 30, 2019 | Gina Kolata

Posted on 10/01/2019 12:39:39 AM PDT by BobL

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To: pepsionice

I, too retired, less than a year after you did (unless you retired on January 1). I regularly get flu shots, and haven’t had the flu for some 40 years. I limit my beef intake to about once a month, but have pork a bit more (maybe twice weekly, and that’s mostly lean ham). I eat lots of fish. I get a cold no more than about once a year. The point is that individual anecdotes are important to the individual, but must be considered with inputs from large numbers of people.


41 posted on 10/01/2019 4:35:08 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: WWG1WWA

Sam’s also...

We have found Sam’s to have better meat than our local Texas based supermarkets. It is a bit more expensive but with no kids at home, it only adds a few dollars a year to our food costs.

BTW, I am 83 years old, on no prescription drugs, and do not recall ever having a meal without a meat of some kind, mostly pork or beef. Fried chicken is the only proper way to prepare it. Turkey has no taste...


42 posted on 10/01/2019 4:35:33 AM PDT by CenTex (November 6, 2012... A day that will live in infamy!!!)
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To: BobL
I've been in the meat business for 40 years and knew this was all crap. Gained acceptance much in the same way as anthropogenic global warming.

I have a physician friend a few houses down and he like me agrees that saturated fat is good for you and it's what the body was designed to accommodate....It the modified vegetable and trans fats that are along with soy and a few other items, the real health risks.

43 posted on 10/01/2019 4:40:20 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: BobL

I took their advice and immediately added broiled shrimp or fish to my steak dinner. Nothing like a Surf & Turf supper with two green vegetables to bring a satisfying end to a hard day of work.


44 posted on 10/01/2019 4:43:05 AM PDT by moovova (You can't buy it back if you didn't sell it to me.)
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To: CenTex

“We have found Sam’s to have better meat ...”

Yes! Yes! We buy all of our meat at Sam’s, and it’s great. The packages are generally multi-packs so we come home, divide them up into two or three item servings, and freeze some. Steak, pork chops, preformed hamburger patties. Chicken already comes individually shrink-wrapped, freezer ready. All may be a little more expensive, but there’s no waste.

Another Sam’s treat...rotisserie chicken. We buy one hot just off the rotisserie, eat one half that night, the other half the next. They’re $4.98 per bird so that equals $1.25/serving each for the wife and I. And they’re GREAT.


45 posted on 10/01/2019 4:55:10 AM PDT by moovova (You can't buy it back if you didn't sell it to me.)
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To: BobL

Thanks for posting. My husband had open heart with 5 bypasses on the 14th. We are constantly lectured about scary red meat.
They clearly do not understand the sources of cholesterol. I wat want proportionately, the same diet as he does... no problems. He has a genetic problem that killed his father before he was 60.
First visit w the thoracic surgeon today. I know this red herring will surface.. carbs will trigger my husbands well controlled diabetes.
I will ask what are precisely the top 2 deadly red meat ingredients.
Eat plants only live forever... insanity.


46 posted on 10/01/2019 4:56:14 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: BobL

The least healthy diet of all is vegetarian. If you dig you will find studies showing it takes about a decade off your life.


47 posted on 10/01/2019 4:58:29 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: CenTex

I’m 73. Oxy level is 98, like most athletes. No high cholesterol, no diabetes, no high blood pressure, etc. I’m a carnivor as well. Love my meat, especially beef. The groceries where I live are horrid. Tough meat, no taste.


48 posted on 10/01/2019 5:03:24 AM PDT by WWG1WWA ("Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity." - Marcus Aurelius)
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To: BobL

Very few of our days are meat-free...as I look at the scale and pinch 1-1/2 inches, I wish I could say that more of my days are low-carb....love that bread and snack crackers way too much.


49 posted on 10/01/2019 5:06:29 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: BobL

Cows farting are a climate change issue so I’m doing my best to eat as many as possible to save the planet.


50 posted on 10/01/2019 5:07:04 AM PDT by maddog55
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To: Drango

I understand there is a reduced tolerance for alcohol on a low carb diet. NOT FOR ME!


51 posted on 10/01/2019 5:07:59 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist ( Be kind to your children. They will determine where you live when you get old.)
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To: HighSierra5

Look up cattle “feed lot”. You post is a charming thought but not accurate.


52 posted on 10/01/2019 5:13:53 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: New Jersey Realist

Well it’s just a cheaper drunk. The impact of each drink is about ~ doubled. So 4 glasses of wine, impact you like 8 glasses. (give or take)


53 posted on 10/01/2019 5:25:05 AM PDT by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: BobL

Bad advice or not, I can’t stand the stuff—creeps me out—like roadkill.


54 posted on 10/01/2019 5:27:15 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You'd think they'd learn from the Roadrunner Cartoons, but they just send off to Acme and try again.)
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To: WWG1WWA

Costco is better.


55 posted on 10/01/2019 5:28:57 AM PDT by amihow
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To: HighSierra5

Where are you? But those cows may be “finished” in a pen with starchy carbs.

Hate the current corporate greed in the business community.


56 posted on 10/01/2019 5:34:04 AM PDT by amihow
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To: BobL

“Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.” -Richard Feynman


57 posted on 10/01/2019 5:35:51 AM PDT by Montaignes Cat
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To: BobL

I remember, about thirty years ago, some teen boy singer, very popular, giving an interview of his beliefs.

A ho-hum article till the last when he said...”And I don’t eat red meat.”

I thought “Who cares! You will become ‘old hat’ and disappear in about three months!”

Never heard of him again.


58 posted on 10/01/2019 5:48:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: BobL

I completely believe that all this reported “scientific evidence” is merely the result of whatever government grant was issued at the time.

Oh, a government grant to study the health effects of X. Well, then is I propagate some headline grabbing conclusion I’ll pretty much be guaranteed to keep the government grant gravy train running at my university. I will get credit as an authority and be conferred a full professorship.

One week coffee is good. The next week, coffee is bad.

It’s a joke. Everything in moderation and live your life.


59 posted on 10/01/2019 5:52:43 AM PDT by Obadiah
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“There’s just a tremendous amount of energy and nutrition in meat”

I remember about forty years ago lots of teens started following some Indian guru around, and living in his “commune”. Kids who finally left were diagnosed with anemia due to his strict vegetarian diet.

I believe these were the ones selling books and haunting the airports begging for money at that time.


60 posted on 10/01/2019 5:53:41 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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