Posted on 10/01/2019 12:39:39 AM PDT by BobL
The evidence is too weak to justify telling individuals to eat less beef and pork, according to new research. The findings “erode public trust,” critics said.
Public health officials for years have urged Americans to limit consumption of red meat and processed meats because of concerns that these foods are linked to heart disease, cancer and other ills.
But on Monday, in a remarkable turnabout, an international collaboration of researchers produced a series of analyses concluding that the advice, a bedrock of almost all dietary guidelines, is not backed by good scientific evidence.
If there are health benefits from eating less beef and pork, they are small, the researchers concluded. Indeed, the advantages are so faint that they can be discerned only when looking at large populations, the scientists said, and are not sufficient to tell individuals to change their meat-eating habits.
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Already they have been met with fierce criticism by public health researchers. The American Heart Association, the American Cancer Society, the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and other groups have savaged the findings and the journal that published them.
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The prospect of a renewed appetite for red meat also runs counter to two other important trends: a growing awareness of the environmental degradation caused by livestock production, and longstanding concern about the welfare of animals employed in industrial farming.
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LOW CARB / KETO PING!!!
This was posted yesterday evening, but pulled because the poster re-wrote the title (I learned that lesson once myself). So I dug it up and re-posted.
In the UK, they were talking about big taxes on meat, but then it occurred to them that would mean the wealthy would still have their meat, while the masses had, I guess, cake. So now they’re talking about an outright ban on meat (at least on red meat). This has all the politics of the tobacco wars, except much, much bigger, and the sides are flipped - with the people who are supposed be the good guys (Cancer/Heart/Diabetes Societies and governments) trying to prevent people from getting off the carbs that are killing and destroying the lives of many of them.
[p.s., anyone wanting to join, or leave, my Low-Carb ping list, just let me know, privately or publicly]
Where I live (SF Bay Area), I’ve known a lot of young women who purport to be full or part-time vegetarians or vegans. And most of them are perennially sick with colds and other various maladies. I, on the other hand, subsist mainly on steaks and burgers and haven’t have a cold in nearly 3 years. There’s just a tremendous amount of energy and nutrition in meat, and it’s nearly impossible to replicate that in a plant-based diet.
Since retiring from the military in 1999 and with their mandatory must-take-the-flu-shot campaign....I quit flu shots immediately upon retirement. So in 20 years, I’ve had two mild cases of the flu (the 24-hour bug). The previous ten years (with the shot)....two serious bouts with the flu, and a yearly 24-hour bug episode.
I’m like you....I do the beef, pork, chicken and turkey thing. I believe a good portion of my yearly good health leads back to that trend as well. I might go and agree with these people that some meats (hot dogs in particular) probably aren’t that good in your diet. But to suggest a vegan diet is something we should desire? No, that’s a bold lie.
Agree. A lot is known about the nutrition that meat provides and how difficult it is to replicate it if one tries to live on a ‘sustainable’ diet. But as bad as that is, do we really know everything? I doubt it, so yea, you’re rolling the dice on your health if you go veggie. My best friend recently lost his 55 year old brother to leukemia. When he was diagnosed, the first thing his doctor told him to do was to start eating meat again - he had been a veggie for 30 years. Was that the cause? Who knows, but I’d say it’s probably the most likely culprit - and even his doctor pretty much said the same.
Just when the grass clipping “burger” industry was getting ready to take off. LOL
The left hate meat because it comes from cattle ranches. Cattle ranches are run by ranchers. They’re usually conservative Republicans and tough. Live in the country away from the city slickers. The left hates all that so let’s not eat meat. The whole argument is stupid cause there will ALWAYS be a demand for it.
Michaela Peterson, daughter of Jordan Peterson, famously cured herself of agonising auto-immune issues that she had suffered from all her life.
She did this by changing to a diet of only ruminant meat. Basically she eats only beef.
She looks really good.
Agreed. Though to be safe it’s good to get the old colonoscopy every now and then.
They say eating a lot of meat leads to more polyps and I have had some scary ones.
OF COURSE that doesn’t prove anything and it’s not a controlled study :)
Just never hurts to follow up with things.
I don’t get sick often either and I LOVE my red meat.
And red heads :)
Good news! Nothing you ever thought was true is actually true!
“Just when the grass clipping “burger” industry was getting ready to take off. LOL”
No kidding - I meant to point that out. Talk about a body-blow! And they should more accurately describe their product. It’s not ‘plant-based food’, it’s ‘chemical-based food’, if you look at the 20 or so ingredients, most of which Americans cannot even pronounce.
Red meat has health advantages
Live hard...die young...make a good looking corpse./sarc
Woody Allen line in the sleeper. Smoking and red meat are good for you?
John Derek
I never stopped eating hamburgers and Philly steaks. My gut told me they were wrong. Good to have the confirmation.
Meat not grown by ranchers much àny more. It is grown by Big Farma, where the animals are stuffed with starchy carbs to make cheap tasteless, dry,lean Frankenmeat. Then it is processed with wa\er to add more weight.
It is hard to find decent meat.
Whenever I’m recovering from stomach flu (norovirus etc) when I get to the point of tolerating food plain hamburgers are what I eat and it never bothers the tummy but gives me much needed energy.
(You Need Meat) Don’t Go No Further
By Willie Dixon
You need meat
Go to the market
You need bread
Try the bakery
You need lovin’
Look here, baby
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Somebody gonna love me
You need money
Go to the bank, dear
You need honey
Look to the bees
You need lovin’
Come on here, woman
Well, I got just what you need
I wanna love somebody
I gotta love somebody
I gotta love somebody
Somebody gonna love me
Oh, play it now
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Go to the market
You need bread
Try the bakery
If you need lovin’
Come on here, baby
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I wanna love somebody
Yeah, love somebody
I gotta love somebody
Somebody got to love me
Play your guitar
You need money
Go to the bank, dear
If you need honey
Go find a bee
If you need lovin’
Well I’m your doctor
I’ve got people sick
On what you need
I gotta love somebody
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I wanna love somebody
Somebody gonna love me
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