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'Captain Crozier! Captain Crozier!': Videos show sailors sending off ousted USS Roosevelt commander with cheers
Stars and Stripes ^ | 3 April 2020 | Chad Garland

Posted on 04/06/2020 12:46:41 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

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To: jacknyc

Unfortunately he looks like that and he is an Annapolis grad too.


41 posted on 04/06/2020 4:32:53 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: ETCM

I’ve been reading this item and agree with President Trump.

He wrote a 5 page letter and sent copies to 20 people?

With his next in command right on the ship with him?

He should be fired.

What an idiot.


42 posted on 04/06/2020 4:33:24 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: SkyPilot

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43 posted on 04/06/2020 4:34:36 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: billyboy15

I could not agree more with your assessment!


44 posted on 04/06/2020 4:37:14 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: SkyPilot

+100!!!!!!

As I figured

( OK conspiracy territory.....Someone should check if this captain recently received a large amount of money in his bank account)

He knew he was throwing away his career
He knew help was on the way
He deliberately let soldiers come in contact in Vietnam Nam

Hope this is thoroughly investigated!


45 posted on 04/06/2020 4:37:50 AM PDT by Guenevere (Press On!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Being captain of a naval vessel ain’t a popularity contest. The dude used a hostile press to leverage the Navy. He deserved to get fired.


46 posted on 04/06/2020 4:41:06 AM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“He caught it, too”

I don’t care how sick he is, he broke the chain of command and blabbed to the media about the sickness on the ship. This is giving the enemy intelligence about deployed ships.
He deserves to be in prison.

First thing an officer is supposed to learn is not to let the enemy know your strength or lack of it.

The fact that the crew cheered him just shows how liberalism has invaded our country and perverted our people through communist teachings in school.

The crew needs to be repremanded for cheering on this poor excuse for an officer. They are no better than he is. This speaks volumes for the lack of battle readiness within the fleet.


47 posted on 04/06/2020 5:15:54 AM PDT by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: SkyPilot
His real sin was not using the vast resources under his command to deal with the problems. You can go through the various threads on this where former Navy colleagues have suggested a host of things he should have been doing instead of sounding abandon ship. He has a wealth of experience to draw from, a lot of creative folks who could have figured some things out, a crew capable of fabricating or building anything that needed to built, a whole medical department staffed with surgeons, nurses, corpsmen, and other medical doctors, etc.

There are small cities with vastly less resources than this CO had.

Had he done those things and then asked for help with additional resources he needed he would have been a hero.

48 posted on 04/06/2020 5:29:40 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Guenevere
As little fit for command as I think this guy turned out to be, the port visit in Vietnam wasn't his doing. Sailing orders and port visits are arranged/assigned by fleet command with a lot of input from the State Department, etc. Was there intelligence at the time indicating that it was unsafe to enter port because of contagion - that should be investigated.

As vast as the powers of a CO are, he doesn't self-select his deployment schedule.

49 posted on 04/06/2020 5:33:11 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: DarthVader

So is that carrier completely sidelined right now? What’s the SOP for decontamination and removal of the pathogen?


50 posted on 04/06/2020 5:51:08 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Why did he take the ship to Vietnam?

Retired Navy Officer here. The Navy decides on port visits. He was required to make the port call.The other ships of the Strike Group also stopped in Vietnam. They likely also had infected sailors. They still have their commands because they handled the situation appropriately.

“Why did he wait?”

He didn’t. According to a statement from the Pentagon yesterday, he had contacted higher authority and they were sending help.


51 posted on 04/06/2020 5:53:11 AM PDT by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

re: “What is supposed to be the connection between the crew liking the Captain and the Captain doing things that got him relieved of command?”

Giving the crew liberty in Vietnam AFTER Covid-19 had been identified as a pandemic threat?


52 posted on 04/06/2020 5:55:45 AM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

What he did, by going public through the press, was put our naval forces at risk by announcing to our enemies that our ships were weakened by this virus.

He’s lucky he wasn’t court marshaled.

Loose lips sink ships.


53 posted on 04/06/2020 5:58:06 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: NFHale

If the captain had done this as by the book. He could have had the whole ship thoroughly deconned and wiped down in a matter of a few days. Now it will take a few weeks just to be thorough.


54 posted on 04/06/2020 6:20:44 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I’ll bet the Chinese Navy is laughing their asses off.


55 posted on 04/06/2020 6:28:54 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

When you fire a ship’s captain, do it onshore and do not let him back on the ship where he can be the subject of a pep rally. Duh


56 posted on 04/06/2020 7:07:38 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: AndyJackson

OK thanks!

When he allowed them to leave the ship there he should have known by then an epidemic was spreading


57 posted on 04/06/2020 7:14:53 AM PDT by Guenevere (Press On!)
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Giving the crew liberty in Vietnam

Again, as others have noted, this is the one thing that isn't on him as port visits are arranged by the Navy in conjunction with the State Department as part of "show the flag" exercises. The spending of money by sailors in the local port is part of that. If the sailors should not have been on liberty then it was for the local diplomatic mission to inform the CO of such.

I am not a fan of this CO, but this charge against him is unfair and is not one that Modley cited in justifying relieving him of command.

58 posted on 04/06/2020 8:01:55 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Guenevere
he should have known by then an epidemic was spreading

The intelligence officers associated with the local diplomatic mission should have provided that information and recommended that as a consequence the port visit be cancelled.

59 posted on 04/06/2020 8:04:21 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: SkyPilot

Thank You for Your Service to Our Country and Citizens.

Stay Safe and Take Care.


60 posted on 04/06/2020 8:06:07 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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