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I'm somewhat confused. When Obama made the statement he "doesn't need to wait for Congress to change laws, he has a pen and a phone", I don't recall hearing a peep out of the liberal left....just sayin'.
1 posted on 04/14/2020 4:15:36 AM PDT by sevinufnine
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Trump can declare ANY business essential to the national defense and order it opened under the NDPA.

Democrats were the ones who insisted he invoke it.

Suck it, Democrats.


2 posted on 04/14/2020 4:17:45 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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I have no problems with the states deciding on their own to open up.

The smart ones will begin to loosen the choke hold once they have a good handle on things. One size fits all does not work in this case.

Let the blue states suffer while the red states start getting back to work.


3 posted on 04/14/2020 4:19:14 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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Earlier Monday, six governors from states on east coast and three on the west coast announced their own pacts to come up with a framework on how and when to reopen.

All nine governors are Democrats and include Gavin Newsom of California and Andrew Cuomo of New York - both of whom have seen their ratings soar during their handling of the crisis.

Pointedly, the governors on both coasts said that ‘public health’ was their leading priority.

But they put themselves on a collision course with Trump, who hyped his proclamation that he would decide on Twitter, after saying for days it would soon become time to ‘reopen’ the U.S. economy.

The president’s emphatic statement came as it was revealed his task force on the vital matter will include cabinet members, his daughter and his son-in-law.

‘A decision by me, in conjunction with the Governors and input from others, will be made shortly!’


4 posted on 04/14/2020 4:20:45 AM PDT by sevinufnine
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New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has rebuked President Trump’s claims that he has blanket authority to order a reopening of the country.


Perhaps Cuomo is correct on this. However the President does have the authority to end the emergency which gave the states (and cities) the perceived power to force house arrest on their citizens, as well as cut off emergency funds.

Add to that the fact the people are growing tired of all this and may began mass civil disobedience.

Cuomo is playing a game where no one knows the rules and only time will tell which hand is the winner and which is the loser.


5 posted on 04/14/2020 4:21:18 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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I am wondering if Trump isn’t using reverse psychology on the mentally defective dims?
He tells them they can’t and they do the opposite...just to show him who really is the boss. :)


6 posted on 04/14/2020 4:21:38 AM PDT by Leep (We can go to the grocery store but we can't go to work?)
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Interstate commerce clause + Defense Production Act = Trump is right.


7 posted on 04/14/2020 4:21:38 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Socialism requires slavery.)
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Cuomo is taking the bait, and he doesn’t even realize it.


8 posted on 04/14/2020 4:22:03 AM PDT by cdcdawg ("Americanism, not Globalism, will be our credo." DJT 2016)
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Me thinks Cuomo is setting himself up as potential Dem Presidential candidate and nothing more. Biden has already sworn a female running mate, so Cuomo is out there. BUT, creepy Joe has some sex assault stories popping out of the woodwork, so someone must be ready to take his place! Surely Cuomo believes he is that man!


9 posted on 04/14/2020 4:22:59 AM PDT by sevinufnine
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Democrats and the media (I repeat myself), fail to once again see how Trump is playing 4D chess here....while in one breath they argue that it is all Trump’s fault he didn’t shut down the country sooner, they are running around telling everyone that decisions to open (and close btw), are the Governors responsibility alone.

i.e. its all Trump’s fault that states didn’t get shutdown, but its not Sorry Dems, you don’t get it both ways. If it is not Trumps power to open the states, then it was never in his power to force them to close.

iN NY, that blame rests squarely with Cuomo and deBalsio.


10 posted on 04/14/2020 4:23:10 AM PDT by qwerty1234
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If Trump says to start your engines, governors will be hard pressed to keep things locked down. There aren’t enough police in the world to keep NY locked down if Trump says, “Go!”

The bad thing is that everything that happens after that, including cloudy days, will be blamed on Trump.


11 posted on 04/14/2020 4:23:13 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Thanks for the thread!

Meanwhile, check out the UK homepage. It has citizens of the country that survived the Blitz and Hitler too scared to come out of their WuFlu foxholes when given the all clear. They’ll have to be coaxed.

My God, they don’t make Brits like they used to.


13 posted on 04/14/2020 4:25:04 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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I am VERY confused. We are now being told that Trump waited too long to shut down the country (and the Demoncrats are going to investigate). On the other hand, we are also being told that he doesn't have the authority to re-open the country (that belongs to the governors).

The authority to shut down is the same as the authority to open. He either has the authority or he doesn't.

15 posted on 04/14/2020 4:27:02 AM PDT by BruceS
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I find it rather ironic that the man who acted as a king and mandated everything (practically) be shut down is saying we do not have a king.


20 posted on 04/14/2020 4:30:25 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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The US Constitution grants *every* US citizen,regardless of where he/she lives,certain rights. And the President has the power...actually,the duty...to ensure that those rights are respected.

And unless I'm *very* much mistaken one of those rights is the right to leave one's own home.

21 posted on 04/14/2020 4:31:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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Says the guy who had himself crowned King of New York by the RAT controlled NYS Legislature.


24 posted on 04/14/2020 4:33:04 AM PDT by rockwell torrey
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As I recall, EVERY Democrat was cool with this.
28 posted on 04/14/2020 4:38:04 AM PDT by sevinufnine
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Trump is right. The federal government’s findings and declaration of emergency provide the factual and legal basis for the various state and local declarations of emergency issued in reliance on them. If the federal government issues new findings and declares the national emergency over in whole or in part, the state and local declarations are no longer sustainable and have to be terminated or revised to meet the terms of the new federal findings and declaration. If not, the original unrevised and noncompliant state and local declarations and orders to the public become vulnerable to court challenge.


29 posted on 04/14/2020 4:39:55 AM PDT by Rockingham
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Cuomo needs to dust off the Constitution and read it again. The Founders gave a President an unprecidented level of power when a National Emergency is deemed necessary. Trump rules, al-be-it a
temporary power. They also gave us the 2nd. Amendment to ensure that power is not abused. They were brilliant. Cuomo, not so much.


30 posted on 04/14/2020 4:40:12 AM PDT by WWG1WWA (SPOOK restore my search and reply windows, FReak Remove the script)
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The truth is the US is under a state of emergency a President has special powers and authorities when the US is in a state of declared emergency. As VP Pence said, all 50 states Governors have declared emergencies in their states and the President has declared a national emergency. I think the last time this happened was during WWII. So yes the President, no matter whom occupies the office has ultimate authority, in this case, to make decisions about what we do as a nation vis-a-vis the coronavirus.


31 posted on 04/14/2020 4:40:27 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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These Hair on Fire partisans are completely missing the fact that when the president declares a national emergency, AS HE HAS DONE IN ALL 50 STATES AND THE TERRITORIES, he, alone, has the authority to lift it, as well. He was not declaring his authority over all US citizens for all things and all time, he was simply stating the powers of any president in a declared national emergency.

Additionally, no government bureaucrat, appointed or elected, has the power to, for instance, prohibit flag sales and garden seed sales, as Governor Half-Whitt of Michigan has, nor to fine members of a church for listening to their pastor by radio while staying in their cars, meeting all declared “Social Distancing” guidelines.

There is a US Constitution, and there are US Laws, and the President is meeting all of them. Many Swamp Bureaucrats are not.


34 posted on 04/14/2020 4:43:57 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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