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Nations Invited for Animal Sacrifice on Mount of Olives Renewing Noah’s Covenant (9/25/19)
breakingisraelnews.com ^ | 9/2/19 | Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz

Posted on 09/09/2019 2:59:43 PM PDT by ransomnote

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To: Zionist Conspirator

No, I was admitting to a pre-bias just as you have to admit to your pre-bias!

What I’m saying is that you’ve no basis to assume that the frame work the Talmud provides in understanding Torah is as valid as any other method or invalid that other faiths may adhere to. It is a personal faith issue, which for Jew or Christian, can’t be really scientifically verified via the scientific method or by the rules of objective reason. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. It is the “entrance of thy word that giveth life” that the Psalmist speaks about.

Now a Christian might argue that the Talmud is just another way to repair the veil to the the holy of holies(that we believe to have been ripped at Christ’s death) in a figurative spiritual sense...but that is just an opinion and my personal one as well.

By faith we both believe in one God and that he has also spoken through his word or “Torah”. We all believe in Messiah. The only real argument we have with each other, for 2000 years, has been the timing of his coming! Regardless, by the end of the 70th week as foretold in Daniel, we will see Messiah astride the Earth!

I do wish you well!


61 posted on 09/10/2019 6:15:32 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Unfortunately, you have no idea of what I was saying.

Or perhaps you had no idea how misleading was your wording. You often have good ideas, but are so quick to slant them to the negative or the militantly defensive that it really frustrates clear communications.

62 posted on 09/10/2019 6:48:41 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The One who stated “ I am the Way the Truth and the Life, no one goes to the Father but by Me” is God in human flesh. Best there is. All others including the precursor faith of Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses etc, are pointing to him, and He is Who I put m trust in.

Rues and regs, not so much, failing, futile foolish attempts at dead works cannot save dead men.

We shall see, one day.

I detest this particular bunch’s philosophy, as they tread underfoot the blood of the Sent One, the Messiah, the Savior, Son of Man and of God, God with us, Jesus..

YRMV. Good Luck


63 posted on 09/10/2019 6:57:38 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Veto!

I was fortunate to take a detailed Exodus class recently for an entire academic year. Really fascinating and foundational to understanding the New Testament as well as the Old.


64 posted on 09/10/2019 7:09:55 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Albion Wilde

“That said, my personal belief is that Jesus Christ ended the need for animal sacrifice to God”

I could not have accepted or worshipped the “God” before Jesus Christ. Seemed pagan from what I have read. And you went to hell or at least did not have eternal life anyway regardless of what you did or believed.


65 posted on 09/10/2019 7:18:54 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

That’s not how I read it. He did discipline his Chosen People and did visit wrath on wrongdoers, but was loving and protective of those who made a good faith effort to keep his commandments. Also, if you read the New Testament accounts, Jesus descended into hell for a brief time after the crucifixion. His purpose was to raise many of the dead. In the end, He will judge all of us, living or dead, and many who do not repent and believe will not make it to heaven.


66 posted on 09/10/2019 8:31:13 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thanks.


67 posted on 09/10/2019 8:33:26 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

I guess I should add, the Christian belief is in a Triune God — Father, Son and Holy Spirit. That means that Jesus was present at creation, and is the same as the God of the Old Testament; just presented Himself differently for a different time. It takes a long time for human society to evolve, especially in those days before wide availability of reading and writing. First He had to “train” his “puppies” (the Israelites) to the idea of a rule of law rather than tribal violence. Hence, the Commandments, and lots of ritual laws for food, clothing and worship.

Once obedience was firmly established, which took thousands of years, he sent an earthly incarnation, Jesus, to teach people to believe wholeheartedly and not just fulfill rituals and appear pious while entertaining hateful or cruel thoughts towards others. Salvation comes from truly believing, truly repenting of sins and truly allowing the Holy Spirit to guide one’s life and make one renewed, more and more able to shed one’s old sin habits.

Here we are, after 2,019 years, not fully housebroken yet. Keep praying!


68 posted on 09/10/2019 9:08:43 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: jjotto
Read about Solomon's Temple dedication and the priests couldn't stand in the presence of God. The Ark was in it's place and the Shekinah glory was in the house. The Ark was moved sometime around 580 BC? My bet is it's under the Temple mount.

The whole point is, however, the Temple is no longer needed as the final sacrifice has been made in 33 AD. Building a building that God doesn't want and killing animals that God doesn't want killed will do nothing to please God.

There is a story about Jeremiah moving the Ark to my Nebo written in 2 Maccabees, but that still means there was no Ark for centuries before Jesus.

"The Ark was not in the Second Temple and didn’t prevent it from being the Temple."...

Using that logic, why not just rent a building in downtown Jerusalem and kill animals there? There is nothing to make any of this "Holy". The reason for the Temple and the furniture in the Temple was to make it holy for God to live with His people. If the Jews don't have God living in their hearts, they've missed the boat and a new house won't change anything. The only reason to even have a Temple is to live supernaturally with God. No God, no miracles.

69 posted on 09/10/2019 9:24:22 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: Zionist Conspirator

During the Twentieth Century Anno Domini (AD) mathematicians proved that there are ordinary truths within relatively simple logical and numerical systems that cannot be proven within those systems. Computer Scientists proved that there were some things that simply could not be computed. Physicists observed that there were fundamental limits to the precision of simultaneously measuring related physical quantities. The sheer scale and complexity of the observable universe is such that simply counting all its pieces is not possible in a human lifetime or even a computer’s lifetime. The inescapable conclusion is that it is impossible for us to discover a Universal Theory of Everything (UToE) by observing and reasoning about the observed universe.

The only way that we, as human beings, can understand the universe, let alone our place in it, is to have the Creator of the Universe (CotU) tell us what we need to know. The premise of this document is that the CotU has given us what we need to know about His creation in the form of the Holy Scriptures of the Hebrews and the Christians. The fundamental plan is laid out in the Tanach (also known as (aka) the Old Testament), but this document contains some “mysteries”. The “mysteries” within the Tanach are revealed in the “Renewed Covenant” (aka New Testament) writings that make up the second part of the Christian Bible. The Renewed Covenant itself contains some things that are specifically not revealed, perhaps to remind us that we are incapable of knowing and understanding all things.

In a more mathematical sense, the Holy Scriptures can be thought of as a projection (aka mapping) into our world of the CotU’s plan for the form and evolution (in the sense of structured change over time) of His creation from the beginning to the end. What is written in the Bible about future events, and is called “Bible Prophecy” does not come true, solely, because the CotU knows what is going to happen. “Bible Prophecy” comes true because it is a mapping from the actual plan (aka The Word) that makes things happen in the universe that we experience.

This work is directed to those who think of themselves as rational human beings who revere “Science,” but do not yet believe in the Holy Scriptures as a literal representation of the universe and our place in it. It is also designed as a comfort to those who do believe in the Holy Scriptures, but are constantly attacked as naive about science by those who do not.


70 posted on 09/11/2019 9:20:03 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

In its pure form, the scientific method consists of a theory, hypothesis, or prediction of what is going to happen, and measurements to determine of the theory, hypothesis, or prediction was correct. In the real world, there are additional considerations such as the confidence with which the measurement matches the prediction in the light of measurement errors. This is especially important in the part of the UToE that deals with very small spatial and time dimensions where there appear to be absolute limits to the precision that measurements can be made.

One of the first things one learns about all known physical theories, such as, equations of motion, or electromagnetic field equations, is that they are differential equations. This means that the equations specify the rate of change of dependent quantities in response to the values of other independent quantities in the equation. In order to predict the evolution of the system one has to specify the initial or boundary conditions of the independent quantities. Only then can the future state or probable of the system be calculated.

In the search for the UToE one can get a somewhat decent handle of current conditions in a small area of study, unless one looks too closely, but things rapidly get very complex. It is possible to write down equations of motion for three bodies in a Newtonian Gravitational Field. If the initial positions and velocities, i.e., the boundary conditions, are known, then one can use the differential equations of motion to calculate future positions, but it is impossible to write down explicit equations for the orbits of the objects. We also know that Newton’s model for gravity is not as accurate as Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity, which itself has limitations at very small scales.

And these are just little boundary conditions. The big boundary conditions are “Why are we here?”, “How did this all begin?” and “How will this all end?” Absent some revealed truth, these big questions are unanswerable.


71 posted on 09/11/2019 9:22:46 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

For the purposes of this scientific search for the UToE our overarching hypothesis is that the Creator of the Universe (CotU) has provided keys to the UToE, including the big boundary conditions, in the form of the Holy Scriptures, specifically the Tanach (Hebrew Bible), and the Renewed Covenant (Christian New Testament.) We will use related writings such as the Hebrew Traditions (Kabbalah), but only to the extent that they confirm the Holy Scriptures by providing additional commentary.

Our hypothesis does not say that CotU made the UToE easy to find, but that we are to strive to understand His creation to the extent we can and the Holy Scriptures will confirm the correct theories that we can deduce from observations.

For the parts that cannot be deduced from observation, we hypothesize that the stories, prophesies, patterns, and codes recorded in the Holy Scriptures represent a mapping from the actual boundary conditions of the Universe into our observed four-dimensional world. In other words, Bible Prophesy comes true because the Universe can develop in no other way. In these cases, our hypothesis will be proven true if the world in fact evolved as the Holy Scriptures foretold.


72 posted on 09/11/2019 9:24:11 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

While recognizing that it will be extremely difficult, we are not addressing the Holy Scriptures in the context of any specific religious system. We are using them as a guide to selection specific scientific theories and boundary conditions describing the physical sciences, e.g. physics, chemistry, biology, etc.

As I read them, the Holy Scriptures say that there is a CotU who created the universe for a specific purpose and is actively involved in the universe He created to make it come out the way He intended. If you are an atheist, a deist, or any other religionist just accept this as an assumption that is part of the overarching scientific hypothesis.

If you are a Catholic, you will have to disregard the statement by Fr. Guy Consolmagno, Planetary Scientist at the Vatican Observatory: “One of the things you know about a science book is that, 10 years from now, it’s going to be out-of-date. The Bible does not go out-of-date, ergo, the Bible is not a science book. You don’t do it any favors by trying to turn it into a science book.” The scriptures themselves clearly state that the Scriptures are the revealed Word of CotU and therefore represent a projection of CotU’s Plan into our experience. That means that careful examination of the Scriptures must reveal the fundamental structure of the universe. Therefore, the Bible does not go out-of-date which means that the Bible is the first foundation of all science books.


73 posted on 09/11/2019 9:25:37 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Most current Jewish religious systems have a prohibition on pronouncing the four letter name (Tetragrammaton) of the CotU, which is transliterated from the Hebrew as YHVH or YHWH. Instead they say “Adonai” when reading YHVH or simply refer to it as Hashem (the Name). Some people extent this to writing G-d instead of with an “o” because they do not want to take the CotU’s name in vain, even accidentally. Following the Apostle Paul’s direction about such matters (1 Corinthians 9:19-23), I have chosen to use the invented acronym CotU as much as possible instead of anyone of the other names for YHWH the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob whenever possible, and preserve the original naming convention for any quoted text.

The acronym “CotU” was literally presented to me on a “sign”. I started writing this while camping in an RV Park across from the “Center of the Universe” micro-brewery and pub. Given the other miraculous things that happened during that stay, I do not doubt that it was the CotU’s intention.


74 posted on 09/11/2019 9:27:26 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

This subject is too big to be included in one document. Portions of what we will cover is explained better and more completely by others. We will include only that which is necessary for out purposes and refer the reader to the original sources.

The most important original source is the Holy Scriptures themselves. Once you begin to believe in the Bible as the Word of the CotU, you will begin to read and study it under the guidance of the Presence (aka Spirit) of the CotU. This is not a religious assertion. This is a scientific assertion of how the universe actually works.

We will focus on the Torah both oral and written. We have the written Torah in the form of the first five books of the Hebrew Bible. We will use the King James Version for English, and the appropriate Hebrew/Aramaic and Greek originals when necessary.

Parts of the oral Torah have been written down in various books of traditions, or they are more commonly known: Kabbalistic texts. The Sefer Yetzirah: The Book of Creation in Theory and Practice by Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, revised edition published in 1997 by Red Wheel/ Weiser, LLC is our primary source of oral Torah commentary concerning creation (Kaplan, 1997).

We will be introducing two new sources from the late twentieth century: “The Laws of Form” (Forms) by George Spencer-Brown, and Burkhard Heim’s “Extended Quantum Field Theory” (EQFT) described in several books and articles. They are the reason that we can postulate a Unified Theory of Everything. Spencer-Brown’s Forms provides for all of mathematics, including number theory and computer science, and Heim’s EQFT uses axioms (that are proved in Forms) to provide us with physics and cosmology.


75 posted on 09/11/2019 9:28:48 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
As we noted above, there is a lot of scientific and religious dogma out there, so we must be careful to take things back to the beginning, and build on that. In other words, we are going to approach this as the Prophet Isaiah described: “For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little.” (Isaiah 28:10)

In the context of science, the phrase “precept must be upon precept” means that a command or principle intended especially as a general rule of action must follow and not contradict a precept that it includes. The phrase “line upon line” points us to a sequence of operations or statements in formal proofs using inductive reasoning. The phrase “here a little, there a little” points to the Scriptures as a thick tapestry or, in modern terms, a hologram. In a hologram the elements which produce a picture under a particular illumination are distributed “here and there” within the hologram. That is how many different pictures can be captured in one hologram without interfering with each other.

“Here a little, there a little” also points us to the fact that the Scriptures are perhaps the most extensively hyperlinked document in human history. Christoph Römhild and Chris Harrison collaborated to produce a pictorial representation of the cross-references in the Scriptures. ( See http://www.chrisharrison.net/index.php/Visualizations/BibleViz for more details.)

The bar graph that runs along the bottom represents all of the chapters in the Bible. Books alternate in color between white and light gray. The length of each bar denotes the number of verses in the chapter. (The spike in the middle of the Scriptures in Psalm 119.) Each of the 63,779 cross references found in the Bible is depicted by a single arc - the color corresponds to the distance between the two chapters, creating a rainbow-like effect.


76 posted on 09/11/2019 9:31:53 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

1.9 NOTE TO CREATIONISTS OF ALL KINDS

Your theories and explanations were the best that could be done with the available scientific and mathematical knowledge available. This new mathematics and science has been developed in the past seventy years, and is not taught in any college or university of which I am aware. There are groups of people on the internet who study one or the other theory, but, to my knowledge, this is the first time the two have been put together. Certainly it is the first time they have been put together to help decode the Bible. So please save your “yes, buts” for the end. If you are anything like me, you will have more “aha!” that “yes, but” by the time this is over.


77 posted on 09/11/2019 9:33:05 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
2 THE LAWS OF FORM, HEIM’S EQFT AND THE CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE

2.1 IN THE BEGINNING…

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. (Gen 1:1-2)

2.1.1 How the Universe Started

If you speak English, you have heard the first two sentences in the Book of Genesis. You may or may not have wondered what they really mean, but you probably never thought that they were mathematical statements. There has been much commentary on exactly what “the earth was without form, and void” means, but it is our contention that, in and around 1968, George Spenser-Brown (GSB) when he wrote, “Call the space cloven by any distinction, together with the entire contents of the space, the form of the distinction.” So a space without a distinction is formless and void.

In Proverbs 8:22, Wisdom describes how the CotU did this, “When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth.” In this context, a compass is an instrument for drawing a circle. Some translations render this as “when he drew a circle on the deep.” The simplest distinction that can be drawn, in a two dimensional space, is a circle on a plane. In three dimensional space the simplest distinction is a sphere.

From this first distinction, Forms leads directly to three kinds of numbers: Real Integers, Imaginary Integers, and Complementary Integers. This leads inexorably to all of mathematics, number theory, and computer science. It, however requires something on which to write or mark. Is there a theory that starts the same way a Forms, but results in the physical universe?

Burkhard Heim arrived at a description of “the beginning” from the currently observed universe using logic and mathematics. Heim defined the fundamental quantum of area which he called a “metron”. While he presented this quantization of area as a postulate, we now know, from Forms, that it is a consequence of the creation of the first distinction.

Heim derived an equation for the relationship of the size of the universe and the size of the metron over time. As time passed, the metron got smaller and the universe got bigger. It is important to note that this turned out to be an equation of the seventh degree. It had seven (7) roots at time zero, i.e., in the beginning. Three of these roots are positive, three are negative and one is complex. The three positive roots specify the creation event as producing three concentric spheres with diameters of 0.90992 m, 1.06426 m, 3.70121 m. that separate “the creation” from the nothingness.

The two dimensional cross section of a sphere is a circle. Since a compass draws a circle by fixing the center and drawing the radius, we can say that the CotU adjusted the size of His compass to half the diameter of each sphere, i.e. to 72.874 inches, 20.945 inches, and 19.646 inches. These surely are the “heavens and the earth” spoken of in Genesis 1:1. As we will see, Forms requires the creation of the first distinction, and then everything else is done within that form. So the CotU created the “highest” heaven, then drew the “lower” heaven, and finally drew the earth. These were all done at the same “time” since until they were finished being drawn, time had no meaning.

These measurements would also appear to be the first natural measurements of length the “cubit”. There are two kinds of cubits, a shorter secular cubit and a longer sacred cubit. Scholars give a range of values for the length of the cubits, but the remains of buildings in Babylonia and Assyria indicate a sacred cubit of about 20.6 inches. The historical record for the secular cubit put it between 16 and 18 inches. (https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/cubit/) However, given the number of times in the Bible that the CotU complains about people using corrupted measurements, this is probably to be expected, while they would be more reluctant to adulterate the sacred measurement.

Another interesting part of the “cubit” story is that the name in English is pronounced exactly the same as the recently added word: “qubit” which labels the unit of quantum information. As we will see, Forms is a “quantum theory” in every sense of the words. The first distinction can be thought of as the first qubit. Having the English name for the first measurement and the English name for the qubit being pronounced the same is our first indication that the CotU loves puns and other word play.

How is this possible for these two “random” events to be related, you ask? Because: “ISA46:09 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, ISA46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:” is a scientific statement. The “random events” of translating אמה into “cubit” and calling a quantum bit a “qubit” were determined from the beginning and formed some of the “boundary conditions” for the “evolution” of the universe.

Before going on it is important to note that while Forms is a mathematical system and described in abstract symbols, it is always accompanied by words, phrases and sentences that describe the meaning of the symbols. One could put it as John did at the beginning of his Gospel: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (John 1:1)

Putting it all together, we could say, as it does in the Sefer Yetzirah (ספר יצירה), “And He created His universe with three books (Sepharim ספרדים), with text (Sepher ספר) with number (Sephar ספר) and with communication (Sippur סיפור).

We now know four (4 ד) important numbers: one (1 א), two (2 ב), three (3 כ), and seven (7 ז): One CotU and complex solution to the creation equation; two dimensions of the simplest dividable finite space; three kinds of numbers, three dimensions for free motion, three spheres, three circles, three books; and seven as the order of the equation of the universe which led to the three spheres.

78 posted on 09/11/2019 9:37:24 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
2.1.2 When the Universe Started

The calculations in Heim EQFT that produced the size of the initial universe also tell us how long ago this happened: 5.45 x 10107 years ago. During all but the past 15-40 x 109 years the metronic lattice did not contain light or matter. As the Torah says: “darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.” This means that for about 1098 years the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters, i.e. all of creation, up until the point some 15-40 billion years ago when God said “let there be light.” What was the Spirit of God up to during all this time? He was setting things up or, if you will, writing the Book.

ISA46:09 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, ISA46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

We are going to see that the universe is like a humongous computer operated using object-oriented programming (OOP). In OOP, there is a declaration phase of development where the characteristics and properties of types (or classes) of “objects” are defined. As we will see, the Bible calls these “kinds” as in “after its kind”.

After the declaration phase of OOP, comes the execution phase in which the object classes are instantiated into executing units within the program of the computer. This two phase process of creation process avoids the “which came first? The chicken or the egg?” problem inherent in the Theory of (accidental) Evolution. The Prophet Isaiah quoted the CotU as putting it this way:

ISA48:13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.

This also explains why there are two creation stories in Genesis. The first describes the creation of the universe out of nothing from the beginning and the declaration of the objects. The second describes the creation of Adam and Eve who start CotU’s salvation plan for the creatures that He created.

So we can have an “old” universe and a “young” salvation plan at the same time. We will first focus on the creation of the universe out of nothing from the beginning over what we would measure as a long time.

This is indicated by these verses between the two stories:

GEN2:04 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, GEN2:05 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. {Emphasis added}

Now that modern computer scientists have discovered OOP, we know about the two phases of creation: declaration and execution, we can understand this passage as the demarcation between the two. It also states explicitly that the declaration was all done in a single “day”, which gives us a big clue that “day” is not tied to the movements of the Earth around the Sun, but it is a cycle of time marked out as “an evening” and “a morning”.

The concept nested cycles of various lengths of days is supported by the writings of the Hebrew sages:

“According to the master Kabbalists, Rabbi Isaac of Acco, when counting the years of these [7000 year] cycles, one must not use an ordinary physical year, but rather, a divine year. The Midrash says that each divine day is a thousand years, basing this on the verse, “A thousand years in Your sight are as but yesterday” (Psalms 90: 4). Since each year contains 365 1/4 days, a divine year would be 365,250 years long. According to this, each cycle of seven thousand divine years would consist of 2,556,750,000 earthly years. This figure of two-and-a-half billion years is very close to the scientific estimate as to the length of time that life has existed on earth. If we assume that the seventh cycle began with the Biblical account of creation, then this would have occurred when the universe was 15,340,500,000 years old. This is very close to the scientific estimate that the expansion of the universe began some fifteen billion years ago.”

Kaplan, Aryeh (2004-03-15). Sefer Yetzirah: The Book of Creation in Theory and Practice (Kindle Locations 3552-3559). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.

The concept of separating declaration and instantiation is supported by the writings of the Hebrew sages, without invoking OOP:

‘During the six days of creation described in the first chapter, G-d did not actually create the world, but rather, created the ingredients which would allow the world to develop. It thus refers to the creation of all matter, along with space and time. It was during these six days that G-d brought the universe into being from absolute nothingness. After these six days of creation, G-d allowed the universe to develop by itself, renewing His creation each seven thousand divine years or 2.5 billion earthly years. All the laws of nature and the properties of matter had been fixed for all time, as it is written, “He has established them forever; He has made a decree which shall not be transgressed” (Psalms 148: 6). It is similarly written, “Whatever G-d decrees shall be forever; nothing shall be added to it, and nothing shall be taken away” (Ecclesiastes 3: 14). ‘

Kaplan, Aryeh (2004-03-15). Sefer Yetzirah: The Book of Creation in Theory and Practice (Kindle Locations 3564-3572). Red Wheel Weiser. Kindle Edition.

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To: chuckles

“Using that logic, why not just rent a building in downtown Jerusalem and kill animals there?”

Around 2001, there was a group of Rabbinical students who made such a point by placing a symbolic corner stone right next to the wailing wall. They made the point that the temple could be built there as well as anywhere in Jerusalem and it didn’t have to be the temple mount! The event caused a bit of kerfuffle but they had made a prophetic point, lost on many people.

There is no specified command that the third temple be built on the ruins of the old; the Bible says only that it will be rebuilt. There is nothing earthly stopping the temple from being built now except the timing of God. The signing of the Antichrist peace treaty isn’t necessarily the definition of when the temple should start to be rebuilt, it could be rebuilt and in operation some years or decades before he actually arises. The Bible only says plainly that the AC will put a stop to sacrifices there at 3.5 years and commit the abomination of desolation .

So to recap, the Bible doesn’t specify where the third temple will be rebuilt only that it is to be rebuilt.

There is no clear sense of timing as to when the temple is to be rebuilt only that it appears to be up and running at the rise of the Beast and the Beast religio-economic system.

So they could decide to rebuild it at anytime but when they do, and Christ hasn’t raptured his church and raised the dead in Christ yet, all of us should be doing everything we can to watch and be ready for we know Christ will soon thusly act!(as just about everything else in prophecy had already occurred).


80 posted on 09/12/2019 3:47:06 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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