Posted on 01/24/2022 8:26:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Well said.
Where the NT directly contradicts the OT, go for the NT passage. I'm thinking specifically about forgiveness, diet, etc).
If the NT is silent on a subject the OT has the final word.
Marcionism was a heresy in the 2nd century the same as it is today
The text makes many good points.
It is clear that at many points the scriptures are dealing with matters in the specific covenant between G-d and the Israelites, a two way covenant - G-d’s commitment to the Jews and a Jew’s commitment to honor it by following G-d’s commands to the Jew. I have often thought of the old testament Jews as not just “G-d’s chosen people” but in the old testament age as “the people who chose G-d”.
The OT was never intended to apply to non-Jews, beyond what was given before Abraham.
Yeah. That Book of Judges is something. Especially Jephthah. Let’s all sacrifice our daughters. People really pick and choose when it comes to the OT. It isn’t as pretty or simple as the Sunday school version.
So the ten commandments don’t apply. Got it.
Attempting to keep the Law, written on stone and those given to Israel will get you to the end of yourself. Of course, Jesus came to fulfill the jot and tittle of the law IOT to meet the Holy requirement of a Perfect Sacrifice to save those (all) condemned under the Law.
So, all of my efforts on my own to keep the law (to please the LORD GOD Almighty) are as filthy rags, as I have failed in some area, sometime, at least once, rather badly I may confess). But Jesus DID!
As we are told, the Law is holy, but we cannot meet its requirements, and if we try on our own strength, we make God a liar, and we deceive ourselves.
Jesus, the perfect unblemished Lamb, met the standard, exceeded it and in Him, I am the Righteousness of God. ALL MY Sin(s) (noun and verb) are completely washed away, separated as far as the east is from the west, thrown into the deepest sea, put behind the back of the Almighty and He, graciously, because of Christ, remembers my sins no more...
Therefore, I can live without fear of condemnation, but the life I live must be lived by the faith of Jesus, that God, through that faith (which raised Jesus) will justify, sanctify and glorify me one day in total.
Live by your effort to keep the law if you can, as you will be judged by it. Live by Faith in Christ and you will be accepted in the Beloved (Jesus).
You made a point that the ten commandments don’t apply which Jesus himself applies. Matt 19:18.
So who is correct? The OT and Jesus or you?
You’ve got me mistaken for someone else. Put down the bong.
Just so its clear, the ten commandments describe the nature of GOD, so when God in the Holy Spirit is ABIDING in the human spirit the nature of God in His Righteousness is abiding in the newborn Christian member.
Yep. Non-Jews are expected to observe the Seven Laws of the Children of Noah.
Indeed All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (2 Timothy 3:16) Which at that time was the OT. But NT silence itself does not necessarily mean something in the OT does or does not have its observance abrogated, for the NT deals with such as classes, not only specifics, as in affirming universal moral laws while abrogating the literal observance of ceremonial laws and temple ordinances, as in
"meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." (Colossians 2:16-17)
Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Hebrews 9:10)
Meanwhile the intent of all these laws are to be fulfilled by those who are justified by heart-purifying regenerating faith,
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (Romans 8:4)
But there is no law requiring all Windows users to switch to Linux - or vice versa! Thank God for options.
My bad, I’m using a cellphone here and the text is difficult to read here.
Jesus gave the ten commandments Matt 19:18, not the laws of Noah.
He cited Isaiah and numerous other scriptures written post Abraham, your conclusion doesn’t take into account that.
Yeah so basically the ten commandments matter and thus the literature from Moses matters and all the OT matters.
The Old Testament is amazing, rich, valuable, insightful, and necessary for gaining understanding about God’s holiness, our depravity, and His incredible rescue plan for us.
It’s also amazing that the thief on the cross is in Heaven with our Savior and he didn’t follow any of the Levitical laws, wasn’t baptized in water, never took communion, didn’t raise his had for an alter call, and never recited the sinner’s prayer.
There are lots of things in Scripture that are recorded as having happened that were not approved of or mandated by God.
Just because something is recorded, doesn’t mean we should copy it or that God approves of it.
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