The radical left WILL take our guns IF we let them.....
Posted on 08/14/2019 3:07:24 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
The White House is in talks with lawmakers from both parties on gun control proposals, hoping for a plan of action before September.
Administration officials and senior staffers in both chambers are in early discussions about which bills likely to see movement, and which ones the White House might support.
“I think the wheels are spinning pretty quickly right now on gathering a lot of this information,” a source familiar with the discussions told The Hill. “So I think the goal would be to have something ready by the end of the month or at least by the time Congress comes back — have some sort of a better picture.”
The House and Senate are slated to reconvene Sept. 9.
Staff for Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) -- two key senators on gun control -- met with White House staff on Tuesday. And Sen. Pat Toomey’s (R-Pa.) office has also been involved in talks.
Manchin and Toomey are the co-authors of a 2013 background check bill that was rejected by the Senate, and Murphy is a leading champion of gun control, having taken up the cause after the deadly 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in his home state.
Trump has publicly praised the idea of strengthening background checks, following pressure to act after back-to-back mass shootings earlier this month in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio.
But the Toomey-Manchin proposal faces significant hurdles. Some question whether the administration can get behind it, particularly since House-passed legislation in February that went slightly further received minimal GOP support.
“That one could be tricky, though. It might be a bridge too far,” said the source familiar with the talks. “But that's not to say it couldn't happen on the hill. I think you could pretty easily. ... I think they are going to take a read from him [Trump] on that issue.”
There is deep skepticism over the prospects for a bipartisan agreement, especially with the split power between chambers.
“I mean, the fact of the matter is the Senate is where the real game is here. The House is going to take this thing so far to the left and, you know, there's no feasible pass through the Senate,” the source said.
“So the question is: Can you get something that is enough to attract enough Democrats in the Senate and get some sort of a deal that doesn't alienate too many Republicans?”
There is also uncertainty on Capitol Hill over whether Trump will ultimately walk back his remarks signaling an openness to significantly tighten background check laws.
In early 2018, after the school shooting in Parkland, Fla., Trump said he was open to a range of gun control measures like background checks and even an assault weapons ban. But he later backed off, declaring at an NRA convention that year: “Your Second Amendment rights are under siege. But they will never, ever be under siege as long as I’m your president.”
Still, Trump is publicly saying this time around that he is open to a deal. The president spoke with Murphy on Sunday and told reporters it was a good discussion.
“We had a very good conversation,” Trump said on Tuesday. “We’ll see what happens.”
“I can tell you, from my standpoint, I would like to see meaningful background checks,” Trump added. “And I think something will happen.”
Murphy is warning that if anything is going to happen, Trump cannot fold under pressure from the right like he did before.
“We continue to work to find common ground, but as I told the President, we can't get a bill if he and the GOP give the gun lobby veto power,” Murphy tweeted after his call with Trump.
Gun rights groups, a powerful force in the GOP, are putting pressure on Republicans not to take action.
Michael Hammond, legislative counsel for Gun Owners of America, said his group has been in touch with the offices of GOP senators, warning them: “If you think that you're going to win the next election by destroying your base, you better think again.”
Hammond said he thinks Trump is already backing off from a push for universal background checks, and would propose something smaller, like an enhanced version of the “Fix NICS” law improving the reporting of information to the existing background check system. Congress passed that bill last year.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who would be expected to hold a floor vote on any potential deal, is seen as a major question mark in the effort to advance gun legislation. He has long opposed gun control measures, though he cracked the door open slightly this month.
The Kentucky Republican said background checks and “red flag” laws to help keep guns away from mentally ill people would be “two items that for sure will be front and center as we see what we can come together on and pass.”
They are not going to even consider anything pro gun.
Constitutional Carry is THE answer!
“Attack the civil rights of the innocent at your own political peril, Mr. Trump and GOP.”
Inquiring minds would like to know how many ever-Trump Freepers will withhold their votes from him if he does enact ANY actions on gun control.
They have. Been hearing from some guys the stores are cleaning out.
According to some reports, they have.
People are buying pistols that are easy to carry concealed.
Imagine that!
We cannot allow any more Red Flag laws to be passed!
And the ones that are in place (17 states) need to be challenged - they are unconstitutional!
It's this fallacy, that we have a '2nd Amendment' right that doesn't help in my opinion.
The 2nd Amendment is a prohibition on government, it doesn't confer any rights on the citizenry. As written, it's already been eroded multiple times, and will no likely undergo further erosion.
I don’t know, it depends what he signs his name to.
I’m not interested in whatever legislation just for the sake of doing “something” that turns out to be an attack on the civil rights of innocent Americans. That would piss me off.
Still, even if the above occurs, and I am greatly angered, it is still very likely that I will vote for him in spite of that, because considering the alternative, I might have to set this all aside for 2020.
But if something along the lines of a 2nd Amendment abomination type of law occurs, I don’t know... I can’t predict what’s going to happen, so I’m just going to have to pray on that for now.
What I have said regarding Trump doesn’t really apply to the GOP though, because I love Trump, and I hate the GOP. The two are not on equal footing with me at all.
This !
I'm seriously looking at getting an M1A1, before the price jumps, or they become banned.
-—The White House is in talks with lawmakers from both parties on gun control proposals...-—
The White House? They mean Ivnaka.
An ultra liberal, unelected, unaccountable to the people, NWO feminazi.
What could go wrong?
Not my favorite guy, but Kevin McCarthy gave the best interview I’ve ever heard him give; was with Brett Bair, and McCarthy was in Israel. Questions were answered spot on.
Red Flag will cost Trump the election if he signs on.Take it to the bank
“Worked pretty well so far.”
You mean like the FISA documents?
The Tanker is already $1900.00
The radical left WILL take our guns IF we let them.....
We’re gonna get a Kushner sandwich. Enjoy.
Six of one and a half dozen of the other.
If President Trump passes a law that erodes the limitations of the Second Amendment by government then he is violating the Second Amendment and I would want him gone.
“President Trump, we elected you, not your Daughter.”
A lot of us saw the danger and raised the red flag (no pun intended) in the beginning, but we were all drowned out by everyone else insisting she will have no influence and Trump is his own man so he will not listen to her.
I wish I kept their names.
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