Sun Yat-sen had a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, issued by the Territory of Hawaii, from which a COLB could be generated if requested, (Upon request by his heirs one supposes)
Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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Oh I know the one posted on the internet was fake. I don’t think he ever found one that he mentioned in his book either.
Also, someone ought to list all the lies in Obama's book. That would possibly run the length of another book.
The problem with making such a definitive statement is, when even one contrary example is found it refutes the argument. The Chinese born Sun Yat Sin (IIRC his name) had an Hawaiian CoLB which stated his place of birth as Honolulu.
It sounds like they are describing a Filipino Certificate of Birth, rahter than a Hawaiian one. Unless the Hawaiian ones have hanged considerably from the early 1960s. Those had no place for the parents marriage information. Just usual residence of the mother, age, place of birth , and occupation.
The problem with making such a definitive statement is, when even one contrary example is found it refutes the argument. The Chinese born Sun Yat Sin (IIRC his name) had an Hawaiian CoLB which stated his place of birth as Honolulu.
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There you go. I don’t believe anything any official in Hawaii says. As if they wouldn’t try to cover for him.
Sun Yat-sen had a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, issued by the Territory of Hawaii, from which a COLB could be generated if requested, (Upon request by his heirs one supposes)
Thank you for posting it.
Congress, the Courts and the Joint Chiefs do
Do YOU Fear Obama?
By JB Williams Friday, July 17, 2009
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Since the most powerful people in America fear the wrath of Obamanation, maybe you should too! They are indeed a dangerous bunch, after all…
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds.
By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand. Do you think there is no reason for this?
The Basic Facts
# Barack Hussein Obama is foreign born, period (Kenya)
# Regardless of his birth place, his parents had foreign loyalties (strike 2)
# He has foreign loyalties, demonstrated in every policy decision (strike 3)
# He’s not Christian, but Muslim
# He’s not “black,” but Arab
# There is NO U.S. birth certificate, other than the forged COLB
# NO Hawaiian hospital will confirm his birth place (he has named two)
# His policies are designed to destroy the Constitutional Republic, not to uphold or defend (strike 4)
# He won’t go away without a blood bath
These are the basic facts as they exist today. This is the basis for where we are headed…
There are Only three groups in America…
Those who do not know these facts, don’t want to know these facts and will do or say anything to avoid these facts. They are the 28% of Americans polled who “strongly approve” of Obama’s policies and like Obama, they hate personal freedom, individual ambition and achievement, capitalism and self-governance.
Those who know these facts all too well, and understand that Obamanation will either destroy America from the Oval Office, or burn it to the ground if anyone tries to stop them. They are the 36% who “strongly disapprove” of Obama & Co., currently running out of peaceful options to stop him.
Those who limit their information to that of the state run media and can’t quite put all of the pieces together yet, but sense that something is very wrong.
Not one single leftist defense of Obama from his mindless minions will stand an ounce of honest research or scrutiny. But that does not stop them from regurgitating their talking points ad nauseum. For them, it’s not about facts, but the agenda, no matter the facts.
The Congressional Budget Office just removed any doubt about the disastrous fate of nationalized health care. But the left isn’t listening… the facts don’t matter. They will go forward regardless because they don’t need a single Republican vote!
Choose your Battles
This is why all Obama supporters label all Obama opponents “racists.” In their limited imagination, they can’t fathom someone actually opposing his Marxist anti-American pro-Terrorist belief system and policies. In their minds, only “racists” would oppose a blatant Marxist rushing to destroy the most powerful nation on earth.
Don’t waste a minute trying to have a fact-based logical discussion with them. They do NOT care what the facts are and they have no foundation upon which to discern simple right and wrong. Though they use the term “fascist” all day long in an attempt to silence their opposition, they have no idea what the word actually means and they don’t care.
But rest easy, as they only account for some 25-28% of American voters and less than 20% of society. Too many, I agree, but fight the battles worth winning. Don’t waste your energy arguing with idiots who only seek access to your earnings. Their agenda trumps their understanding and respect for the truth…
Peaceful Options Evaporate
I want to be VERY clear. I do NOT desire or promote any form of violence or any armed insurrection of the sort recently used to depose an illegal dictator in Honduras. Despite the reality that America is facing an historic Constitutional Crisis with an illegal dictator of its own, violent methods for saving a nation and a way of life, are “last resort” measures only.
However, in my opinion, we are fast approaching the point of “no peaceful resolution” when only extreme measures will remain. As American patriots who still know and still care about the Constitution lose all peaceful options for redress and are forced deeper into a socio-economic corner, the human desire to be free which fuels the urge to resort to violence, will grow.
Violence will grow in both camps, in the absence of any other viable alternatives. Since Obama refuses to respect the Constitution or the law, and congress and the courts opt to turn their collective heads, only extreme options will soon remain. This administration is running roughshod over the people and the states and sooner or later, the backlash is coming.
Racially Motivated Violence
At every opportunity, the left is pushing the race card. The left MUST HAVE a divided nation at war with itself. It is the foundation of their power.
When people oppose Obama, it isn’t because he’s completely unqualified for office, or because his policies are aligned with Karl Marx and Saul Alinsky instead of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. It’s because “he’s black,” even though he isn’t “black.”
Yet it was Obama supporters who overlooked everything else to “make history” and elect a candidate strictly on the basis of his alleged race. No more blatant act of racism has ever taken place in America.
We already see a dramatic increase in random acts of racially motivated violence cropping up in cities across the country. ACORN and Black Panther types sense that this is their moment in history to put the “white man” in his proper place, under their jackboot.
These folks DO NOT represent the black community. Only an extreme left violent portion of that community. In Obama’s words, “America is no longer a Christian nation, or even a sovereign nation.” In the words of his black nationalist brethren, “this is a black nation now!”
But with record gun and ammunition sales across the political spectrum, it’s not hard to see where other Americans are headed either.
As the economy is driven even further towards utter collapse by an endless flood of Marxist policies oozing daily from the filibuster-proof congress, it’s only a matter of days, weeks or maybe months at the outside, before people take to the streets in more than TEA Parties.
With the Free Economy goes Freedom
Freedom gave every American the chance to determine their own station in life and for the vast majority of Americans it has been a very comfortable station indeed.
But international leftists have spent decades training those who would not use their freedom well, to vote themselves access to the earnings of others. Today, they feel entitled to that which they did not earn and their leftist leaders feel entitled to confiscate private industry and wealth, in the name of the “greater common good,” which is otherwise known as their personal political power.
They have no idea what’s coming… As the free market economy becomes an Obama Czar controlled economy, and Obama strives to buy favor with his supporters by economically attacking his opponents, the economy will continue its slide into depression. Free-market investors don’t invest in Marxism.
Day traders are riding the government manipulation of the market on their way out, taking “day profits” where they can. But real investors will find a way to escape Marxism, with their resources intact… and they are already fleeing for foreign markets moving towards capitalism.
Watch what happens to the new Government Motors. Americans will NOT buy their cars… Then what?
One of two events will ignite the new battle for freedom in America.
Either Obama succeeds in fraudulently holding on to his power long enough to bankrupt the nation, or the people rise up and bankrupt the Fed before Obama can bankrupt every American.
Either way, the streets will burn!
Americans still hoping to avoid a confrontation with international leftists are hoping in vain. Whether Obama supporters tire of their false messiah’s lies and begin to take by force, that which Obama promised but could not deliver,—or true patriots rise up and put a stop to his rape and plundering of a great nation, leaving his supporters in worse condition than before his election, the near future looks the same.
Broad based economic strife, racial violence, government plunder or street gang plunder… no matter which way we go from here, the streets of America are going to burn. This has been a long time coming. There’s almost no chance of escaping it at this late hour.
International leftists did not spend billions and decades setting up the “silent coup” of the United States to simply walk away when busted. They went “all-in” in the last election. They were playing for keeps. They will not let go of their death grip on the United States without a blood bath…
Of course, this is all just my opinion.
Defending the Constitution is not always a Peaceful Event
The people who want to destroy the United States have just as much at stake as those who want to save her. They have worked a very long time to push the USA to the brink of collapse. They intend to finish the job, one way or another.
You can’t figure out why no member of congress or the courts will be the first to ignite civil war by challenging this evil cabal?—Think!
If Americans won’t let leftists have their country, the left will burn it and leave it in ruins. There is no peaceful way out of the corner leftists have placed Americans in… Congress, the courts, even the military brass and law enforcement, will do nothing to save this country. The state run media complex is running interference. The American people are on their own here…
Push is Coming to Shove
The seating of Judge Sotomayor on the Supreme Court bench is a significant event. She’s anti-life, anti-gun, anti-white, anti-American and anti- peace, just like the people who chose her. She was appointed by a usurper of the Constitution. Republicans have no power to stop her, even if they want to.
What do you think that means for the future of American justice?
Obama’s Department of Homeland Security has already labeled every American willing to fight for the flag and the Constitution, a “right-wing extremist” and a “potential domestic terrorist.” Every local, county, state and federal law enforcement agency, as well as every state run media outlet, has been put on the lookout for these types of “subversives.” Any guesses why?
Still the Supreme Court, congress, the CIA, FBI and the DOD, sit silent. What do they know that you don’t?
They all know that the election of Barack Hussein Obama amounts to a silent coup of the United States of America. But they do nothing… Why?—Come on… think!
Do YOU Fear Obama?
You should, because it’s clear that the most powerful people in this country do.
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.
Who will save Freedom?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.
* Retired Navy Commander Walter Fitzpatrick, who has filed criminal charges of “treason” against Barack Obama, but has found no court or prosecutor ready to uphold the Constitution.
* Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, who refused recall and deployment orders, from a fraudulent Commander-in-Chief, only to have the DOD revoke those orders so that Obama would not have to answer his charges in court. Then the DOD forced his private sector employer to fire him from his civilian job in a Martial act of retaliation.
* Maj. Gen. (Ret.) Carroll D. Childers and Lt. Col. David Earl Graeff, who have joined the growing group of military officers demanding proof of Obama’s eligibility to command the US Military.
* Longtime liberal New York radio talker Lynn Samuels, who has accused Obama of lying about his birth certificate.
* CNN’s Lou Dobbs, the first employee of the state run media complex to recently decide that the mounting evidence against Obama is just too much to ignore any longer.
* Former Marine and U.S. District Judge David O. Carter, the first US Judge to accept his oath to uphold the Constitution, stating… “The country needs to know if Mr. Obama is legitimate, if he can legitimately stay in the White House.”
* Orly Taitz, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, all of whom have made defending the Constitution and the American way of life a personal ambition, in the absence of any constitutional leadership.
* Carl Swensson has formed Citizen Grand Juries across the country which have brought Grand Jury criminal indictments against Obama.
* And state legislature after state legislature is moving to reclaim state sovereignty and rights under the 10th Amendment, restating 2nd Amendment rights along the way, all of it positioning the states to defend their citizens against an increasingly belligerent Fed.
A precious few, but they exist… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. If the American people fail to get behind these brave few who are seeking peaceful redress, all peaceful options will evaporate as if they never existed.
We will return to a pre-1776 America overnight.
Obama could have ended all of this months ago by simply being the “transparent” leader he promised to be. The reason Obama has not done so is, he can’t. He does not qualify and cannot provide adequate proof that he does. When the pressure to provide proof reaches a level that can no longer be ignored, he will fail to pass the test. He knows it, and so do his co-conspirators.
This means that sooner or later, he’s going down in history as the greatest political fraud ever perpetrated on the American people and the world. It also means that all of his co-conspirators have a very serious problem as well… Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, Emanuel, all of them…
The End Game
The clock is ticking… Which bomb explodes first?
Obama and Co. are rushing to force Americans into a corner where they will not be able to afford to fight back. Patriots are rushing to fight back before Obama removes the ability to fight back.
No matter which clock ticks down first, this thing is going to blow. There are patriots in this country who are prepared to fight and die for the Constitution and Freedom. But there are also many in this country who are equally ready to kill for Obama and his Marxist agenda. Neither side is going to walk away from the coming battle…
Freedom may be lost in America, but it won’t go down without a fight. Likewise, the left may be defeated, but they won’t walk away without a blood bath… They think they have the American people on their knees already. They won’t let up until forced to let up. They have made this very clear…
If I post reader comments from this column, you will see what I see daily.
Marxists established control of academia, the press and the courts years before establishing filibuster-proof control of congress and unfettered control of the executive branch. Obama has appointed more unelected Czars in thirty days than the Soviet Union did in thirty years.
There is only ONE End Game...
Obama and Pelosi have removed any possibility for peaceful resolution. The courts are the forum for peaceful resolution and the courts are missing in action on the matter. Congress is the place for peaceful resolution, but the left is not seeking any form of resolution, nor will they even allow the opposition a voice.
When no peaceful option is allowed, what options remains?
The time to stand and be counted is coming. The left will take no prisoners. American patriots are running out of options and out of time to act.
Internal conflict is a foregone conclusion now. The stage has been set, the battle lines drawn, the forces assembled. It just hasn’t reached a level of unbridled violence yet. The only thing that is not certain is what kind of America emerges from the conflict on the backside of the coming violence.
Will the anti-American left outnumber and overpower the American patriots, or will American patriots and freedom prevail?
The answer to this question will soon be written in history. The rest has already been written…
I pray for my country, my fellow patriots, for freedom and liberty and for justice. The time has come again, for all good men to come to the aid of their nation. Freedom has never been free and the bill has come due again…
I pray that enough American patriots remain, ready to do what must be done.
But it’s all just my opinion, and today, I’d love to be wrong!
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Sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
What does his own biography say?
Long ago when I first heard about the fake bc I was researching it on the net. I found a quote by young Obama that said something to the effect that he would knew he would have to loose his bc if he were ever to become President. I have since searched for the quote and have not been able to find it. Has anyone else ever seen this Obama quote?
I have a question. In the Odumbasse’s book, Dreams, he said he found his birth certificate and his immunization records. What happened to that birth certificate? If it was such a big deal that he mentioned it in his book, I highly doubt he would lose it unless he did it deliberately. Why would he even mention that at all? What’s the big deal? I am 99.9% positive he is guilty of lying and a lot more. If he released his medical records, all college records, and authentic birth certificate, like all other presidents have done, he could end this in a day.
The fact that many in the military have doubts should be reason enough for any honorable man to come clean. The only reason I can think of that he keeps thumbing his nose at everyone is that releasing these things will the end for him forever. Politically and personally shunned and shamed if not imprisoned.
Hmmm ... I’ve not heard that. We’d all like
to hear that one .. a source, something.
IMHO,our first salvo,anticipating no one in the the Senate has the cajones to step up and accuse zero of being illegal,will be 2010. If we can get rid of enough House members to take it back we can slow his agenda.
We have to remember however this is a regime with a third world mentality. The law, what is legal, moral, immoral have no meaning to these people. They will do whatever advances their Socialist/Marxist agenda,and much of it will happen at midnight when no on is watching.
Talk radio could probably get the job done of getting rid of zero if they would just hammer on his illegitimacy over and over and well coordinated,but I don't look for it.
They are too afraid of being thrown off the air. More fairness doctrine BS etc.
You mean William Ayer's ghost-written book. There are only two possiblities:
One, finding the BC was yet another fictional account written by Ayers. "Dreams" is full of them.
Or, two, given that Obama is moving Heaven and Earth to keep it from ever seeing the light of day, it's a huge deal. We can only speculate on what information it contains.
Does it show him being born in Kenya?
Does it show his father was someone other than Obama Sr?
Look at the long form itself. Imagine what information could be put on it that he would not just want to suppress, but need to suppress.
Starwise’s post was certainly relevant, Polarik.
I’m getting sick and tired of the disrespectful manner in which FReepers speak to each other these days.
Polarik, please remove me from your ping list.
Just call me stunned.
Thanks, Vel.
Dr. James David Manning’s latest video on the court cases, Maj. Cook, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgzfDvBBpOA
You mean William Ayer’s ghost-written book. There are only two possiblities:
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Yes, that one. Did you notice I didn’t say they book odumbass wrote, I just said in his book. I don’t think there is a chance in hell he wrote that book. Not his style. he can barely complete a coherent sentence without TOTUS and it reads exactly like Ayers book. The use of the same words, and not common words, phrases, all of it.
I think the BC statement was put in the book for a very specific reason but I’m not sure what the reason was. It may have been the Kenyan or Canadian birth certificate. Do we even know for sure that Hawaii has his original on file? Or did he just give them the info and they gave him the one posted.
I don’t know what the mystery is, but I am 99.9% sure he’s hiding things and it isn’t only the BC. He’s damn worried about those college and medical records too. I want all of that shit released. Enough is enough.
“ONLY FOR THE ORIGINAL CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH, AKA THE LONG-FORM. The COLB will say “Hawaii” regardless of where the child was originally born. We’ve covered this point, ad infinitum.”
Humor me, please. This is a huge thread and Ive not followed the story too closely. The 2 questions I have are:
Even if someone was born in Bali (and their long form birth certificate stated it as such), any COLB issued by Hawaii would state their place of birth as Hawaii?
If the above is true and if a COLB is adequate to get a US passport, how does the State Department identify anyone as being a US citizen?
Thanks in advance.
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