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Obama’s ineligibility: Prepare to defend America – Death of the Democratic Party
CFP Magazine ^ | July 24, 2011 | Lawrence Sellin

Posted on 07/24/2011 5:58:31 PM PDT by skimbell

When this episode in the American saga is written, historians will note that Barack Obama did not kill the Democratic Party; he was merely the murder weapon.

He represents the Democrats’ suicide cocktail of hubris and a tyrannical lust for power, the arrogance of thinking themselves above the law.

American politicians and journalists have degenerated so far that it is now possible for a President of the United States to present a clearly forged document on national television and no one blinks an eye.

We have an illegal President, a Congress that tolerates criminal acts, and an intentionally impotent judiciary...

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; bho; birthcertificate; certifigate; communism; corruption; crime; democrat; democratic; democraticparty; elections; eligibility; fraud; hopespringseternal; identitytheft; maobama; naturalborncitizen; obama; palin; soros; thistimeforsure
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Well , I don't think there's any confusion about how these people view our Imposter-In-Chief.
1 posted on 07/24/2011 5:58:38 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: skimbell
Well, they're probably right. But the issue is moot for the forseeable future. The courts want nothing to do with it.
2 posted on 07/24/2011 6:00:19 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: skimbell

Whether the fraud is eligible or ineligible does not matter now.

He is destroying America right along with the rest of our government just the same.


3 posted on 07/24/2011 6:02:21 PM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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To: skimbell; chris37

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


4 posted on 07/24/2011 6:04:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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>> to present a clearly forged document on national television and no one blinks an eye.

That document is an indefensible joke.


5 posted on 07/24/2011 6:06:40 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

he IS destroying the USA.
and just because the courts won’t touch it,
doesn’t mean we can’t make it an issue.

(and all those people who think conservatives can’t do this, AND attack Obama on his record, AND chew gum...
are wrong.)

the one single issue i want raised prominently,
is clear cut, and easy to explain, unlike eligibility.

WHY does Obama have a Connecticut SSN ?


6 posted on 07/24/2011 6:09:15 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: hinckley buzzard

The issue is moot until the 2011 Presidential Primaries, which start in less than a year. To get on the ballot, you have to prove you are eligible to run. Let’s see if any of the 57 Secretary’s of State will have the chutzpah to challenge our PINO. This is your second chance to do the Right thing...for a change. If everyone let’s Barry back on the ballot unchallenged, well, gee, I guess the fix is really in for the total destruction of our country as a sovereign nation.


7 posted on 07/24/2011 6:11:44 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: skimbell

Everyone who posts or even views this thread will be monitored. Just thought I’d mention it.

I think the Democratic Party is here to stay, forever and ever, like Herpesvirus.

My only consolation is that I thought that about the Soviet Union in 1984. Things do change occasionally.

But the Democratic Party is too corrupt, too wealthy and too powerful to disappear.


8 posted on 07/24/2011 6:12:05 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (HEY UNION MEMBER: INVEST IN YOUR OWN DAMN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A CHANGE!)
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To: skimbell
All that means is that the monster will just shed their mask of legitimacy and civility. Look for the camps to open and the bullets to start flying!


The left will see this nation in blood and ashes before surrendering their power and WE CONSERVATIVE had better be ready and prepared for the "Day of the Rope"!

9 posted on 07/24/2011 6:16:25 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: JusPasenThru
Everyone who posts or even views this thread will be monitored. Just thought I’d mention it.

Oops, too late, I already looked.

Who will be monitoring me?

10 posted on 07/24/2011 6:20:57 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: skimbell
This is ridiculous Pulling the whole country down,Because people will not speak the truth about this!
11 posted on 07/24/2011 6:22:10 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Jean S

The unknown and the unnamed.


12 posted on 07/24/2011 6:24:22 PM PDT by AceMineral (Some people are too stupid for their own good.)
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To: Sioux-san

Wasserman-Shultz is also risking her neck by certifying him as a Dem candidate in the first place - in retrospect, did Dean want clean hands?


13 posted on 07/24/2011 6:24:59 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: hinckley buzzard
Barry might fall just as fast as he rose. From what I'm hearing, there are more than a dozen democrat Senators who are really ticked off at Reid for ending the Session rather than debating the bill. About half of those people want something similar to what the House passed and the other half were ready to grandstand to try and pump up their base, a base that they can't turn out on demand any more in their home state. Reid, in response to them, is supposed to have said that he was doing what Barry wanted, ending all discussion so Barry could make a counter proposal. Well, no counter proposal and now even Harry is said to be mad as a wet hen.

Senators can see the handwriting on the wall even if Barry is still playing Ray Charles and tapping around with his cane while he smiles and nods. If the House and Senate both pass something and Barry slams a veto down on it, there will be plenty of Senators who want him gone one way or another. If they can't negotiate him off the ticket for 2012, they can go along with hearings of all sorts, up to and including hearings about his citizenship. From their point of view, just making the claims look credible and having investigations in the House and Senate are enough whether they prove anything or not. One thing leads to another, as they say, and allowing any hearings to start with the approval of democrat fascists in the Senate could well start a landslide because all sorts of sources are out there waiting to see which way the wind blows.

And never forget this, either. Hillary and Bill have always gotten revenge, and they've always been patient players (as long as Hillary can restrain Bill) while Barry is impulsive. There's nothing that pair would like better than seeing Barry go down in flames taking the majority of the democrat fascist party with them. That would leave them as the strongest people for the party to rally around and make the "third way" politics they always advocated the only game in town as far as rebuilding the party. Whatever way it goes, Barry wasn't smart enough to murder (literally or figuratively) the leaders of the fascist SA once he gained office so Barry is doomed in the long run. Unfortunately, so many Americans are so stupid that they not only voted the guy in in the first place, they still don't have a clue about what he's really like. That means we all get to go down the throat of the porcelain god along with dear Barry.

14 posted on 07/24/2011 6:33:32 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: skimbell

15 posted on 07/24/2011 6:35:34 PM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: JusPasenThru

If the government had started a “social network” called facebook how many people do you think would have signed up? I’m sure most conservatives wouldn’t. But a bunch signed up for FACEBOOK. I got sucked in then smartened up.

So, yes, they are watching.


16 posted on 07/24/2011 6:44:09 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: skimbell

bmfl


17 posted on 07/24/2011 6:47:47 PM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: skimbell

OZanti Misfitula!

18 posted on 07/24/2011 6:55:12 PM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: blueplum

Never thought about the good doctor stepping down rather than be part of the sham, legally speaking. I think Pelosi is totally culpable along with the other who signed, can’t remember her name. When I see headlines in the grocery store line how upset the delovely Michells hates being in the White House, I wonder if we’re being set up from all directions.


19 posted on 07/24/2011 6:57:13 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But can a handgun defeat an army?....Of course

...but it may not be necessary. I was watching tv on December 25, 1991. There was a line of old of commies smugly standing there......Soviet army tanks were coming up the hill. Boris Yeltsen and his buds were also there, scared shitless, because they had to know the tanks would soon blow them away. They stood their ground...

.....the tanks stopped.

The Soviet army stood down, because they too were tired of the Communist bullshit.

I contend that if it becomes necessary to invoke some kind of extraordinary redress here, the army will stand down, therefore, handguns against the army will not be necessary.

....the Army will be as tired of the communist bullshit as was the soviet army.

20 posted on 07/24/2011 7:00:43 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: blueplum

I’ll be curious to see if Nazi Pelosi is willing to commit perjury again for Soetoro like she did last time. I’m thinking not so much in 2011.


21 posted on 07/24/2011 7:03:15 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: skimbell

So the article states tha the truth about the boob’s BC will soon come out. What does that mean? Surely he doesn’t think the media is going to put up with that as he states they’re complicit in this whole sham. Given the volume of information already around about the integrity of the documents shown to us “rubes” what could possibly be the true smoking gun? And would that information would be strong enough to pull the virtual keystone out of the Rat party?


22 posted on 07/24/2011 7:15:17 PM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Nancy Pelosi likely won’t be the Chairman of the 2012 Democratic National Convention. The current Chairman of the Democratic National Commitee, Tim Kaine, will nominate someone for chair of the convention sometime this year. Whomever that is will be responsible for signing those presidential nomination forms that go out to the states.


23 posted on 07/24/2011 7:18:31 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: skimbell
Colonel Sellin is certainly correct, though I always wonder why people asserting ineligibility use the likelihood of a phony document when, if we still place credibility in our laws, Obama’s ineligibility has been thoroughly confirmed by our greatest constitutional scholars, as well as our current complicit senate:

Perhaps our greatest abolitionist, judge and congressman John Bingham, who initiated, campaigned for, and authored (coauthor) the 14th Amendment addressed congress on several ocassions, clarifying the meaning of natural born citizenship, since his amendment would address and clarify who were citizens, as provided for in Article 1 Section 8:

I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen….

Our greatest Chief Justice, a founder and framer, cited in The Venus, 12 US 253, from our nation's first law book, designated by the founder of our first law school at William and Mary,in 1779, Thomas Jefferson. The law book was the most cited legal reference between 1789 and 1821, Vattel’s Law of Nations. Marshall said:

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.”

Especially note Vattel's, and Aristotle's, and Cicero's acknowledgment that "children naturally follow the condition of their fathers..." Our justices, and British jurists included both parents in their statement of the natural law that children inherit their allegiance from "parents," and not just the father. Barack Jr. told us from whom his dreams came, and his comrades apparently shared that dream for a Marxist US.

The case which established the Vattel definition as precedent was Minor v. Happersett, a woman's suffrage case from 1874. In it the Marshall/Vattel definition was confirmed by the court, (thanks Leo Donofrio) making it incontrovertible law. The core of the decisions needed a constitutionally defined citizen, and the only such was found in Article II Section 1. Obama’s cohorts at Justia.com understood this, which is why his Harvard supporters edited the original case documents to eliminate references to Minor v. Happersett in October of 2008. Here are the words of Chief Justice Morrison Waite:

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

Finally, every US Senator, along with Obama’s Harvard Law Constitutional Law Professor signed their concurrence with the following statement in the Senate Archives from the hearing led by Judiciary Committee Chairman Pat Leahy. Remember, every Senator who signed this to try to cloud John McCain's constitutional eligibility issues knew perfectly well that Barack Obama was born a British Subject, thus a naturalized US Citizen, because, among many reasons, Barack told us that himself:

“My assumption and my understanding is thatif you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied. “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.”

There is no doubt that Obama lacks constitutional eligibility, but he doesn't respect The Constitution and told us so, and neither do his comrades. The corruption is such that every US senator is complicit. An honest patriot, doctor and army officer, Dr. Terry Lakin, asked, as his oath required, and spent months in Leavenworth, demonstrating the corruption within the armed forces. An Army judge forbade the doctor the right to defend himself, modifying the army chain of command to do so.

Obama’s ineligibility must not be forgotten. We haven’t the power to enforce our laws with Obama’s corruption of the justice department, and given the reality that federal judges are all political appointees. We must first take back the centers of government power, and then every law passed, and every legislator who failed to have the courage to defend the constitution must be examined. Sadly, some who failed us are both likable and have otherwise solid conservative credentials. We must not be afraid of the Alinsky tactics “Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.”, and must know the Constitution in order to defend it.

24 posted on 07/24/2011 7:28:31 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: AceMineral
I would like to think it's Santa Claus checking his list. n/s
26 posted on 07/24/2011 7:39:36 PM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kuffir!)
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To: Sioux-san

Alice Travis Germond-Sec. DNC.
Culpable with Pelosi as per the Documents of Certification....Pelosi sent out two different ones per Little Stevie Dunham’s, Barry Soetoro’s eligibility.


27 posted on 07/24/2011 7:46:08 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: skimbell
The Democratic Party will collapse and its leaders will be tried and sent to prison.

Wishful thinking. The dems have a history of throwing people under the bus when their usefulness is over.

28 posted on 07/24/2011 8:31:56 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: skimbell
The truth about Obama’s birth certificate will soon be disclosed.

I sure hope so, but am not holding my breath. Who will disclose it and when?

29 posted on 07/24/2011 8:37:53 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: chris37

Whether the fraud is eligible or ineligible does not matter now. He is destroying America right along with the rest of our government just the same.

The most *complete* way to undo the damage he has wrought is simply to declare it all illegal and indefensible in one fell swoop, and then task the new congress to revisit each implemented policy, appointment, and decree in turn. In other words, kick the dual-citizen out of the office he never should should have acquired.


30 posted on 07/24/2011 8:55:07 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Nancy Pelosi likely won’t be the Chairman of the 2012 Democratic National Convention. The current Chairman of the Democratic National Commitee, Tim Kaine, will nominate someone for chair of the convention sometime this year. Whomever that is will be responsible for signing those presidential nomination forms that go out to the states.

Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the new Chair of the Democratic National Committee.


31 posted on 07/24/2011 9:38:31 PM PDT by jh4freedom
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To: jh4freedom

Okay, then she will shortly nominate a chair for the convention.


32 posted on 07/24/2011 9:44:34 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Elendur

“WHY does Obama have a Connecticut SSN ?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9peZ5WOtL0


33 posted on 07/24/2011 9:48:26 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: so_real

While I agree with you on that, that solution does not address the root of the problem, and that is that we, a free people, elected this communist fraud willingly.

Attempting to pull the weed up but not the root will result in another weed growing back meaning we will just elect the next socialist/ communist without having learned our lesson.

We, the voters, caused this problem. We, the voters, must solve this problem. This is our duty as it is we who must guard our freedom. Not judges, not congressmen, not senators, but we, the people.


34 posted on 07/24/2011 11:07:28 PM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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To: Elendur

“WHY does Obama have a Connecticut SSN ?”

I’m getting that put on a bumper sticker, or a T-shirt at the very least. And yes, I can attack Obama on his record and his non-eligibility and chew bum at the same time. I can also attempt to educate my fellow citizens at every opportunity, and try to get the word out in other, asymmetrical ways (WheresGeorge style) at every opportunity.


35 posted on 07/25/2011 2:03:57 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (I'll take Fraudulent Marxist Usurpers for $2.4 Trillion, Alex.)
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To: Rashputin

“And never forget this, either. Hillary and Bill have always gotten revenge. . .”

Yup. And don’t forget this gem: “A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.” - Bill Clinton


36 posted on 07/25/2011 2:15:18 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (I'll take Fraudulent Marxist Usurpers for $2.4 Trillion, Alex.)
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To: Rashputin

You are right. Remember this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k&feature=youtu.be


37 posted on 07/25/2011 2:43:48 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: Spaulding

That is one of the best arguments on this subject that I’ve ever read. Not to detract from Larry’s excellent article in any way, but DUDE! Just. Wow. And brief enough that my (and others’) attention span can maintain a grip throughout.
Thanks for this.


38 posted on 07/25/2011 2:44:38 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (I'll take Fraudulent Marxist Usurpers for $2.4 Trillion, Alex.)
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To: Mortrey

Yes, I saw that Hawaii got a different one than the rest of the States. As I recall, Hawaii’s did not say that Barry was eligible explicitly, but the other state’s did. What was that lie supposed to accomplish? In my book, it proves Pelosi knew she was breaking the law.


39 posted on 07/25/2011 5:35:06 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: skimbell

sfl


40 posted on 07/25/2011 5:58:01 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Yes someone else’s turn to fall on the perjury sword this time around. LOL!!


41 posted on 07/25/2011 7:32:10 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Spaulding

Spaulding wrote: “Colonel Sellin is certainly correct, though I always wonder why people asserting ineligibility use the likelihood of a phony document when, if we still place credibility in our laws, Obama’s ineligibility has been thoroughly confirmed by our greatest constitutional scholars, as well as our current complicit senate”

In case you have not noticed, this crank legal theory gets even less traction than the born-in-Kenya theory, and would require an even bigger conspiracy. That native-born citizens qualify as natural-born was clear and settled long ago. There are no constitutional scholars questioning it, just pretenders such as we see here.

What’s more, none of the wanna-be constitutional scholars advanced this theory until they needed reasons why Barack Obama cannot be president. If I’m wrong on that, please cite. None of them were writing essays arguing that /Black’s Law Dictionary/ had the definition of “natural born citizen” wrong. There were no rebuttal’s to: “It is well settled that ‘native-born’ citizens, those born in the United States, qualify as natural born.” [Jill Pryor, ‘The Natural-Born Citizen Clause and Presidential Eligibility’, 97 Yale Law Journal 881-889 (1988).

I can respect contrarians, but not people who start telling the rules different when they don’t like who is winning. But again, if I’m wrong put that on you, just cite yourself advancing this two-citizen-parent theory before Barack Obama ran for president.


42 posted on 07/25/2011 8:29:17 AM PDT by BladeBryan
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To: skimbell

The imposter needs a poster and I made one up but can’t figure out how to upload it. I took the ‘catch me in you can’ movie poster, put a nose in the air pic of b.o. where decaprio was and a regular looking joe from the 50’s where hank was. the original sub title is perfect “The true story of a real fake” and then I added at the bottom “He isn’t a natural born citizen. But he is a natural born liar.” Turned out perfect and is correct. Except the guy in the original story really was pretty smart and figured things out on his own. b.o. has handlers doing all that for him and lies with no gravi toss or finesse.


43 posted on 07/25/2011 9:07:10 AM PDT by ethical
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To: JusPasenThru
My only consolation is that I thought that about the Soviet Union in 1984. Things do change occasionally.

But the Democratic Party is too corrupt, too wealthy and too powerful to disappear.

I have within the last year been apprised of a notion which I had never considered previously. It is that "Socialism" is a mask which Monarchy uses to reassert it's self into power. The American War of Independence created a new form of government which had never existed before and was a complete break with the Monarchist/Nobility form of government, (which was the rule prior to the Creation of America) and the "elites" have struggled ever since to reassert the previous system.

Consider Socialism/Communism in practice. It consists of a Premier (King) supported by a large body of Party Members and commissars. (Nobles.) Everyone else is a poor peasant. (Peasant) The party members enjoy special privileges as befits their access to party officials, and the Premier exercises life and death power over everyone else.

In our system, we may posses Nouveau elites and the Glitterati, but they nevertheless have the instinctual human desire to rule over others, and they utilize their money and influence to assure their position as a member of the New Nobility. Democrats are courtesans of both the modern ruling court and the Wealthy elite, trading their influence among the ignorant peasantry and those members of the middle class who are foolish enough to believe their assertions, for influence in the government.

The whole system will have the eventual effect of creating a Monarchy and Nobility with a poor peasant class, the normal status of Human affairs since the Dawn of Humanity. The American experiment of self rule will be over if they succeed. What is being stopped is upward mobility, and that is the entire point.

44 posted on 07/25/2011 9:33:53 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: B.O. Plenty
I contend that if it becomes necessary to invoke some kind of extraordinary redress here, the army will stand down, therefore, handguns against the army will not be necessary.

All well and good for now. Meanwhile they are successfully Droneitizing the army with unmanned Robots. Some of our best kills are using predator drones nowadays. Mechanized walking robots are coming, rest assured. Then what?

The "rise of the machines" but controlled by Dictators.

45 posted on 07/25/2011 9:39:29 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: BladeBryan
In case you have not noticed, this crank legal theory gets even less traction than the born-in-Kenya theory, and would require an even bigger conspiracy. That native-born citizens qualify as natural-born was clear and settled long ago. There are no constitutional scholars questioning it, just pretenders such as we see here.

That people would challenge your notion of a "Geocentric" Universe and refuse to respect your Robed Clergy, ought to be clue enough for you that Your false, albeit established religious dogma is on a collision course with reality.

The Law will obey the people, and as we educate the people, the "Law" will eventually follow.

46 posted on 07/25/2011 9:51:05 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (The TAIL of Hawaiian Bureaucracy WAGS the DOG of Constitutional Law.)
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To: skimbell

I love reading Col. Sellin’s stuff, but it’s starting to get repetitive with all the “arm yourself for the coming conflict” stuff. I wonder if he’s saving his best stuff for the Birther Summit. Is he going on before or after Rev. David Manning Ph.D.?


47 posted on 07/25/2011 9:53:09 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: skimbell
When giving his centennial address to Congress in 1876, then U.S. Representative James Garfield issued the following warning:

Now, more than ever before, the people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless, and corrupt, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness, and corruption. If it be intelligent, brave, and pure, it is because the people demand these high qualities to represent them in the national legislature… If the next centennial does not find us a great nation…it will be because those who represent the enterprise, the culture, and the morality of the nation do not aid in controlling the political forces.


48 posted on 07/25/2011 9:55:51 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: Elendur
You are sooooooooo right about the SS#. No confusing things to hide. SS needs to cough up the application. Except for the pesky little fact that this particular # was allegedly never issued, there is also the issue of how many different SS#’s he may have used. Probably the easiest of all the frauds to prove, yet no one can seem to get the Courts or Congress to act(AGAIN!!!!)
I wish there was a simple list of all the questionables about this man. Take the easiest to prove and make hay.
My guesses on the SS# is either Bill Ayres got it for him or as has been stated , when he returned to US a group in CT that helps FOREIGNERS got him the SS#.
The SS# by far is the simplest of the frauds to prove, we should concentrate on this fact. The BC, which is extremely important is too mired in BS and HI is so far in they will never cooperate. Plus the whole “plausible deniability” issue makes it very difficult. I am ready for a new assault , the SS#.
49 posted on 07/25/2011 10:30:05 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: Elendur
You are sooooooooo right about the SS#. No confusing things to hide. SS needs to cough up the application. Except for the pesky little fact that this particular # was allegedly never issued, there is also the issue of how many different SS#’s he may have used. Probably the easiest of all the frauds to prove, yet no one can seem to get the Courts or Congress to act(AGAIN!!!!)
I wish there was a simple list of all the questionables about this man. Take the easiest to prove and make hay.
My guesses on the SS# is either Bill Ayres got it for him or as has been stated , when he returned to US a group in CT that helps FOREIGNERS got him the SS#.
The SS# by far is the simplest of the frauds to prove, we should concentrate on this fact. The BC, which is extremely important is too mired in BS and HI is so far in they will never cooperate. Plus the whole “plausible deniability” issue makes it very difficult. I am ready for a new assault , the SS#.
50 posted on 07/25/2011 10:30:05 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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