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Left convinced Americans will not fight for 2nd Amendment rights
Coach is Right ^ | 1/7/13 | Doug Book

Posted on 01/07/2013 8:30:30 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

Once cowed at the thought of provoking 2nd Amendment supporters, leftists will soon attempt to ban “assault weapons” (and much more) as legislation offered by Diane Feinstein makes its way to the Senate floor. It seems that DC liberals have finally become convinced that American gun owners are too cowardly, too lazy or too dependent upon the financial "generosity" of Big Brother to fight for their 2nd Amendment rights.

During the past 4 years, the gun banning left have watched as American buyers broke sales records in the purchase of semi-automatic rifles. Opting for these and other powerful, efficient weapons it is estimated that some 100 million private citizens are now in possession of over 300 million firearms. And these numbers continue to grow with each passing month.

Yet it’s against this backdrop of America’s determination to assert the fundamental permanence of 2nd Amendment guarantees that Diane Feinstein, Michael Bloomberg, Barack Obama and others will choose to implement gun bans, demand the federal registration of...

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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Everybody knows police officers, sheriff deputies, state troopers....and most people, myself included, know where many of these cops live. And nearly every home in these parts has multiple firearms.

If I were a really smart Sheriff when the order came to confiscate guns, instead of taking the guns they would go door to door deputizing EVERYONE WITH A GUN!


81 posted on 01/07/2013 12:34:27 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Pox
Exactly. How many of us have sat around BSing over beers and barbeque talking about Zombie/Russian/Chinese invasions?

It's all tactical thinking and it all applies.

82 posted on 01/07/2013 12:55:29 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: Blackirish

You, as few do, understand. There won’t be confiscations per se. The goal is to cut the supply chain.
Very few can make their own guns or ammo. Most who think they can are doing little more than assembling a pre-manufactured jigsaw puzzle. Almost nobody can make barrels, primers, or shells (a few can, but orders of magnitude away from current and opponent’s levels). Most manufacturers of those can be shut down with ease, or importation prohibited. Just takes an Executive Order (if illegal, revocation gets tied up in courts forever) and those few sources die off.
Once the supply chain is broken, then attrition ensues. Ammo, while in vast quantities out there, is a consumable and gets used up or hoarded into oblivion. Guns are durable but still break. The market, black or not, evaporates from hoarding and attrition and bureaucracy.

They learned from Waco and Ruby Ridge: don’t go there. Manifesting someone’s personal expectation of Armageddon does not turn out well. The law abiding, however, abide by law.


83 posted on 01/07/2013 1:08:41 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: EdReform

Here’s another

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/01/the-big-list-of-who-hates-guns/


84 posted on 01/07/2013 1:21:21 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

The chances of Feinstein’s gun bill getting to the floor of the Senate for a vote is zero.


85 posted on 01/07/2013 1:41:22 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ctdonath2

Yes all the keyboard commandos don’t get it. What wins battles? Not frontal attacks, flanking or waiting out your opponent. The left has all the time they need. 25 years from now AR15s will be a politically incorrect collectors item on folks walls.


86 posted on 01/07/2013 1:47:26 PM PST by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Underestimating the enemy's will to fight is one of the surest roads to defeat in war.

Don't take my word for it. Just ask General Gage (1775), Jefferson Davis (1861), Hideki Tojo (1941), Douglas MacArthur (re the Chinese, 1950), Saddam Hussein (1990).

Always assume your enemy will fight like demons and prepare accordingly.

87 posted on 01/07/2013 3:25:24 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: Redcloak

Would be easier to deport all illegal aliens than to do what you suggest.


88 posted on 01/07/2013 3:29:05 PM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Left convinced Americans will not fight for 2nd Amendment rights

Normalcy bias?

89 posted on 01/07/2013 3:33:23 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: rolling_stone

I agree with this blog post the guerrilla war would be urban:

- What will be the likely model of american insurrection, if “gun control” doesn’t “go well?”
http://wintersoldier2008.typepad.com/summer_patriot_winter_sol/2012/12/what-will-be-the-likely-model-of-american-insurrection-if-gun-control-doesnt-go-well.html

One thing about militia and some tactics taught, movement, etc. I never understood practical unless very rural situations. But then there are drones, FLIR from surveillance planes, etc. Too much surveillance in open areas. I would in no way want to be dressed in camo or with tactical gear or stick out in anyway in a guerrilla war battlefield urban/suburban. Be the “grey man”. My rifles in transit for example aren’t all in gun cases, but other more inventive displays.

People talking long arms but really one needs a batch of vehicles, lots of different clothing for disguise/changing and a blade would do the job.


90 posted on 01/07/2013 5:10:25 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: Dead Corpse
Govt is buying up millions of rounds... And we’re buying up the rest. I was in Cabela’s last night and the ammo selection, even reloading components, is as thin as I’ve ever seen it... The powers that be need to factor that into their equation.

Thy don't care. They know they'e more likely to survive the turmoil (wealth and positions of power have their advantages. Further, may (like Obama) are utter ideologues, and see the loss of 30-50 million souls as an acceptable price to pay to bring about the changes they want.

Further, they will have NO hesitation to use overwhelming force against Americans, despite their urgings of "proportional force" abroad. Their voters won't see any problem with it, either. They'll smugly retort that the gun-lovers should love the massive weaponry being used against them. "Live by the gun", etc etc.

If it gets started, the cruelty and evil that will be unleashed on both sides will compare equally with NanKing's Rape, Cambodia's Killing Fields, and Africa's constant tribal butchery. There will be no rules, no relief, and no mercy... and the rest of the world will wait for their chance to pick up some gains at our expense if they can. (Alaska goes to Russia, Hawaii becomes Chinese, the Southwest becomes Aztlan?)

91 posted on 01/07/2013 5:24:51 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Teacher317

The evil that will befall us if we capitulate is far worse.

Or do we need to run down histories attempts at disarmed genocide?


92 posted on 01/07/2013 6:12:06 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: JimRed
When that starts, your assignment is to find and terminate the highest ranking DemocRAT officials within your reach, the ones responsible for giving the orders.

You're forgetting their Republican allies and enablers.

93 posted on 01/07/2013 7:04:20 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Dead Corpse
The evil that will befall us if we capitulate is far worse.
Or do we need to run down histories attempts at disarmed genocide?

I quite agree; the chance for you to live through a disarmed genocide (assuming you're one of the disarmed) is much, much less than that of surviving armed battle.

94 posted on 01/07/2013 7:21:04 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GraceG

[[Can i buy a crate of 30 dollar BB guns and get 200 per “gun” then take the resulting profit?]]

Lol- that woudl be fantastic but the gov will only pay ‘up to’ $200- they’d probably only offer $5 for the guns-


95 posted on 01/07/2013 8:45:36 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Westbrook

[...they will just pick-off gun owners one-by-one, raiding one house at a time for those who don’t surrender.”

If the attempt is made at coordinated confiscations, news of it will spread like wild fire. Police will not do it if ordered to do so, nor will the military.

Some may initially, but reality will be more than they bargained for.


96 posted on 01/07/2013 8:49:42 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: demshateGod

[[People have a romantic view of what will go down. They dream, as every patriotic man has done since childhood, of a Red Dawn resistance.]]

I’m guilty of that too (and more so because of health problems that make life problematic)but I’ll only do so if I see that others are willing to organize a strong resistance

[[But, reality is much different.]]

Cotrrect, when push coems to shove- many will shrink because the bully o nthe block- big government- will be VERY powerful

[[Some of the smartest, most cynical, well read, people the world has ever produced are currently, as I right this, working on how to do this. The culmination of years of planning are coming to fruition. They know how to deal with the scenarios discussed in this forum. It has to be organized or it will fail]]

But what will convince them that enough is enough? We were alreadt dealt a VERY serious blow when john roberts of the supreme court REFUSED to do his sworn duty to protect this nation agaisnt a rogue government who has violated our constitutional rights- and he let it be known that any future requests for the supreme court to protect us agaisnt a rogue governemnt will NOT be met by the court- That alone should have been enough to signal to those folks that we are in serious trouble as a nation when our last line of defense agaisnt a rogue government REFUSES to do what they were initially formed to do-

[[They still think 0 wants to do what’s right but is failing because he lacks the correct paradigm. He is succeeding]]

And he’s goign to get worse, much much worse now that he knows the supreme court will NOT challenge him any longer- Rhino Lindsay graham hit it on the head hwen he stated 0 was goiogn to be an ‘in your face’ commander for the next 4 years- He IS goign to unleash unholy hell on this coutnry- Hell, he’s already begun- but now he feels he ‘has a mandate to continue’ because ‘the peopel reelected him to continue doign what he was doing’

This country may never recover from this- and I see the masses layign down hteir guns and right to bear arms just to get their promissed $200 ‘stimulus check’ each year fro mthe government (and continue gettign government welfare in the form of unemployement ‘benifits’ welfare, food stamps etc etc- As soemoen correctlty stated in this forum- unemployement is becomming hte4 new dissability check


97 posted on 01/07/2013 8:56:35 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: lodi90
The raids will be electronic. The idea is to make everybody a criminal and then selectively enforce the law.

At some point they gotta put boots on the ground; or the neck, as it were. An electronic raid won't disarm anyone. They have to step out of their cubicles eventually.

...and when they do, math's a bitch!

98 posted on 01/07/2013 11:00:47 PM PST by Redcloak (CA conservatives: Go to https://rtv.sos.ca.gov/elections/register-to-vote/ to quit the GOP!)
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To: Blackirish
They won’t have to kill anyone. It will be really smooth and easy. First they’ll ban the manufacture and sale of all semis. Then they’ll ban the transport of they above. You can have then you just can’t move or sell them. The final straw will be a 10 year manditoty federal crime to be caught off your property with a semi.

You mean like they already do with illegal narcotics? I ask since that's been working out so well since 1914.

99 posted on 01/07/2013 11:17:42 PM PST by Redcloak (CA conservatives: Go to https://rtv.sos.ca.gov/elections/register-to-vote/ to quit the GOP!)
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To: CottShop; GraceG
[[Can i buy a crate of 30 dollar BB guns and get 200 per “gun” then take the resulting profit?]]

Lol- that woudl be fantastic but the gov will only pay ‘up to’ $200- they’d probably only offer $5 for the guns-

Here in L.A. County, they'll "buy back" painted plastic pipes if you call them rocket launchers.

100 posted on 01/07/2013 11:30:54 PM PST by Redcloak (CA conservatives: Go to https://rtv.sos.ca.gov/elections/register-to-vote/ to quit the GOP!)
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