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Was it fair for Giuliani to say Obama was influenced by Communists since his youth
The Obama File ^ | 2010 | Beckwith

Posted on 02/22/2015 2:24:25 AM PST by Beckwith

Let's say a man was elected to the highest office in the land who had been mentored, during his childhood, by an avowed communist who was identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (card number 47544) by the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii, accused by the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) as being active in several communist-front organizations, and had a thick FBI file.

Let us further say that this man's guardian, his grandfather, had chosen this mentor for him, indicating that he was likely sympathetic to the mentor's beliefs.

Now, let us say that upon reaching college, this man gravitated toward Marxist professors and revolutionaries and attended the Socialist Scholars Conferences (SSC) at Cooper Union, that featured the elite of socialist academia as well as union activists, political revolutionaries, reformers, and opponents of "corporate greed."

After graduating from college, this man is tutored in the "agitation" techniques of a professional agitator, a former Jesuit priest, and a former ACLU director -- all dedicated socialists.

As a "community organizer, this man had an intimate and long-term association with ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now), the largest radical group in America and the publishers of a communist manifesto entitled "ACORN's Peoples Platform" which would become this man's agenda.

While associated with ACORN, this man was a consultant and trainer to Project Vote, best know for its massive and flagrant election tampering.

Now, let's say this leader-to-be spent twenty years sitting in a black nationalist church, led by a leftist black nationalist preacher, who unabashedly preached a racist "black" gospel" based on the Marxist "Theology of Liberation" that "will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy."

The man's political career began in the living room of two communist domestic terrorists, where he was introduced to the cream of the local leftist community by his political mentor, who was a member of the U.S. Peace Council, which the FBI identified as a communist front group, an affiliate of the World Peace Council, a Soviet front group.

As part of his first run for state office, this man became a member of the New Party and sought their endorsement. The New Party's objective was to push forth the socialist principles of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).

The New Party required candidates who received the endorsement sign a pledge of support for the party that was, in effect, a front group for communists. The July issue of the New Ground noted that 15% of the New Party consisted of DSA members and a good number of members of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, a democratic socialist group in the United States which originated in 1991 as the Committees of Correspondence, a moderate, dissenting wing of the Communist Party USA.

This man also had close personal and political ties to many socialists and communists, including Timuel Black, Congressman Danny Davis, Carl Davidson, Marilyn Katz, Mike Klonsky, Saul Mendelson, Abner Mikva, Linda Rae Murray, Lou Pardo, Zach Pollet, Wade Rathke, Joel Rogers, Quentin Young, Rabbi Arnold Jacob Wolf, and DSA honorees Jackie Grimshaw, Jackie Kendall and Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, to name a few.

Now, when this man ran for national office, all of the above, which is really a snapshot of this man's activities and associations, was forgotten, ignored and buried by the media.

But once in high office this man appointed to his administration the likes of David Axelrod, Anita Dunn, Patrick Gaspard, Jeff Jones, Van Jones, Ron Bloom, Rosa Brooks, Carol Browner, Heather Higginbottom, Mark Lloyd, Hannah Rosenthal, Hilda Solis, and Cass Sunstein. -- all Marxists of one stripe or another -- and these are just some of the ones we know of.

So, here's the billion-dollar question:

What would be nuttier: to claim that this man was a life-long Marxist, or to claim that such an assertion is absurd?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: communist; frankdavis; influence; obama; obamafamily; rudy
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To: Beckwith

Why would the Ministry of Propaganda question its dear leader?


21 posted on 02/22/2015 4:38:40 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Netz

Perhaps this will help you.

http://allenbwest.com/2014/08/obamas-use-isil-reveals-true-allegiance-animus-towards-israel/


22 posted on 02/22/2015 4:44:58 AM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Grandfather, grandmother who he grew up with for some time... card carrying Communist Party members

Frank Marshall Davis who Obama visited all the time ....card carrying Communist Party member

Guliani was just telling the truth...


23 posted on 02/22/2015 4:57:55 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Beckwith

Define “fair”.
Yes.


24 posted on 02/22/2015 5:07:15 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: ImNotLying

> And Obama’s next move is to control the internet. Once he does this it is a fait accompli

There are so many people against it both high in power and strong in numbers that if he really attempts it, I think it would be the last straw. The gloves would come off and they are ready to play...there are rumors of some that are shoulder surfing in the digital world who are watching and waiting ready to report what they’ve found if this gets any traction. Personally I think they are already “laying the pipe” ready to spring it on the American people by “flipping the switch” whether they want it or not.


25 posted on 02/22/2015 5:08:11 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Beckwith

Truth is always pertinent.


26 posted on 02/22/2015 5:17:13 AM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: Beckwith

WAS IT FAIR?!?!?! Why not, ‘IS IT THE TRUTH?’ ????????

And of course it’s true - it was all out there long before he was elected, AND IT’S EVEN IN HIS TWO BOOKS! For all who had eyes to see.......

But the lying media has as their main mission not only to hide the truth, but to actively deny its existence........and promote their false narrative and call everyone who has facts exposing Obama “racist.”

What else is new?


27 posted on 02/22/2015 5:25:44 AM PST by Arlis (A "Sacred Cow-Tipping" Christian)
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To: Beckwith

This ‘principle’ was not started by Giuliani. King Soloman said ‘...Raise up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it...’ Those things we learn during our formative years stick with us. They can be overcome but it is hard to do so.


28 posted on 02/22/2015 5:27:21 AM PST by Muffin1954
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To: Beckwith

“Was it fair for Giuliani to say Obama was influenced by Communists since his youth?”

Absolutely not. He was also influenced by Muzzies as well! I’m not saying he’s a Marxist Muzzie, but everyone knows he is.


29 posted on 02/22/2015 5:31:06 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Beckwith

It is never fair to speak the truth about commies and other America-haters.....


30 posted on 02/22/2015 5:38:50 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: TigersEye
PROTECT
31 posted on 02/22/2015 5:47:34 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Beckwith

Can you send your article to every “journalist” who criticizes Guiliani’s comments? Force them to confront the truth—they might melt.


32 posted on 02/22/2015 6:03:47 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Exactly. Fair is a matter of opinion. Truth is a matter of fact.


33 posted on 02/22/2015 6:09:14 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Beckwith

Fair my ass, it should be mandatory for all MSM to report that Obama is a communist Islamic. Why is the truth so hard.


34 posted on 02/22/2015 6:28:46 AM PST by Licensed-To-Carry (Every time you vote for a democrat, you put another nail in the coffin of the USA.....)
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To: Beckwith

In his own autobiography (ghost written by Bill Ayres), bh0 admits that in college he sought out the communist, socialist and leftist groups to associate with. And Paul Kengor’s book “The Communist: Frank Marshall Davis - The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s Mentor” shows the role of this admitted communist in bh0’s life and also the communist allegiances of his grandparents; and of course he own Kenyan born father was a communist.


35 posted on 02/22/2015 6:41:47 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Frank Marshall Davis is more likely to be Obama’s father than the Kenyan. The whole cover-up on the birth certificate would be to cover-up that possibility.


36 posted on 02/22/2015 6:52:34 AM PST by Oklahoma
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To: Oklahoma

I’ve heard this mentioned more than once,& there were some comparison photos that showed quite a resemblance as well.


37 posted on 02/22/2015 7:49:27 AM PST by oldtech
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To: Beckwith

Of course it’s fair. What kind of dumb question s that?


38 posted on 02/22/2015 10:34:22 AM PST by expat2
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