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ISIS triples down on claims of responsibility for attack, FBI says no evidence of terror connection
Hot Air ^ | October 2, 2017 | John Sexton

Posted on 10/02/2017 6:23:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

ISIS claimed credit for the attack in Las Vegas Monday, however, an FBI agent involved in the investigation said there is no evidence of a connection to terrorism at this point. NY Times correspondent Rukmini Callimachi says it’s not true that ISIS claims responsibility for every attack, but she has her doubts about the accuracy of this claim:

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Rita Katz, Director of SITE Intelligence Group, also has a thread on the ISIS claim. She says ISIS is doubling down on this claim but still providing no evidence:

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So ISIS is definitely claiming this but still offering nothing in the way of proof. The translation of the most recent statement is behind SITE’s paywall but it appears they are claiming this was inspired by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s call for more attacks made in an audio statement released last week. This was the first time in 10 months that anyone had heard from Baghdadi.

At the Atlantic, author Graeme Wood also says ISIS does not claim credit for every attack. However, he notes that the group recently made similar claims of responsibility for another attack which appears to have been a lie:

They have offered no evidence—no cell-phone video from the killer, pledging allegiance in broken Arabic; no selfies of him, raising a finger of monotheism. Another absent sign of Islamic State involvement is videos from Paddock’s rifle-scope. At attacks like the Holey Bakery in Dhaka, Bangladesh, the killers have uploaded real-time images, exclusive and corroborating imagery for Amaq. As with many subsequently verified attacks, we have not yet, in these early hours, seen any such evidence.

If their claim is a rare false one, it will not even be the first false claim to feature a casino. In June, a gambling addict shot up and torched the Resorts World casino in Manila, Philippines. The Islamic State claimed credit, with a dubious follow-up alleging that Jessie Javier Carlos, 42, converted to Islam some months before, without telling anyone. That explanation appears to be a total lie. A false claim of credit in Las Vegas will effectively shred the Islamic State’s news agency’s credibility. It will become a news agency that was once reliable, and now associates itself indiscriminately with heavily armed crazy people in casinos.

However, FBI Special Agent Aaron Rouse said at a press conference today that there is no evidence “to this point” the shooter had a connection to terrorism.

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The police have searched the shooter’s home but Sherriff Joseph Lombardo said he was “not aware of any derogatory information that we can utilize in furtherance of the investigation at this point.”

When someone commits an act with a terrorist motivation, they usually want the world to know. Omar Mateen, the Pulse nightclub shooter, made 911 calls in which he pledged allegiance to ISIS, knowing those calls would be recorded and, eventually, shared. So if this really is ISIS-inspired it seems odd that Paddock didn’t leave a note or a video or something making clear his motive. Maybe something will turn up but so far ISIS’ claim is unsupported.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: corruption; isis; islam; lvmassacre; mandalay; mandalaymassacre; muslims; paddock; paddockisis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course there was no evidence of any Moslem component. Nothing is permissible to construe as evidence of Islamic involvement in violence or lawbreaking.


41 posted on 10/02/2017 8:41:15 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: FreedomStar3028

If this is related to Antifa it will take longer for it to come out than if it is Moslem and will be denied more vehemently when it does..


42 posted on 10/02/2017 8:44:16 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Paladin2
"Allegedly registered D in Fla."

Do you have a link? I have searched the internet everywhere. I found a total blackout about his voter registration. Questioning his voter registration must be considered badthink by the MSM.

43 posted on 10/02/2017 8:51:36 PM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: Paladin2
Housekeeping claims he was on a winning streak the last 3 days.

So they were in the suite repeatedly for three days and didn't notice the alleged arsenal? That's a lot to stuff to hide.

44 posted on 10/02/2017 8:54:30 PM PDT by eldoradude (It doesn't matter how many it takes, the lightbulb has already been stolen.)
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To: uncbob

There were two gun shops- one only sold him a shotgun and some other minor weapon or item.

The other- Guitars and Guns or some such name, didn’t say what they sold to him but did admit he was a customer. Since they were less talkative he probably bought the items used in the attack from them.


45 posted on 10/02/2017 8:57:52 PM PDT by piasa
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To: blueplum

He appears more like the Bernie Bro who shot up Steve Scalise and the baseball practice in DC.


46 posted on 10/02/2017 8:58:17 PM PDT by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
well-known converts like Al Gore, the Clintons, and Al Franken

Reading too many supermarket tabloids lately?

47 posted on 10/02/2017 9:05:06 PM PDT by piasa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

yes.

Not to mention KSM was quite the womanizing party animal in the Philippines.


48 posted on 10/02/2017 9:07:50 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Robert DeLong
"I think he was a deeply troubled person with serious issues that will come out that triggered him to snap like a twig in a hurricane."

I disagree. With all the planning and logistics being involved, this guy's brain did not just wake up psycho one morning. This was as well planned as anything the Jihadists would do. Not saying he is of their ilk, but he put a lot of thought into this, and had a specific date and target in mind.

Personally, I think he is just one more crazed anti-Trumper.

49 posted on 10/02/2017 9:24:50 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: marktwain

All true.


50 posted on 10/02/2017 9:28:11 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Robert DeLong

“Wealth” in this case ( I believe ) translates to a “high roller”. That is, he dealt in wealth but with great risk. This is in fact a syndrome ... “doubling down” ... You keep raising the stakes, so you can exhibit the apparent fruits of wealth at increasing levels until your obligations catch up with you. It’s an old story, and I surmise that it is the story in this case, as I’ve posted earlier.


51 posted on 10/02/2017 9:31:18 PM PDT by dr_lew (I)
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To: piasa

Not to mention KSM was quite the womanizing party animal in the Philippines.


Well, he could fit a couple a girls in that t shirt. (Puke)


52 posted on 10/02/2017 9:50:06 PM PDT by Yaelle (Socialism, faithfully implemented, delivers anguish and devastation. - President Trump)
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To: FreedomStar3028

“I’m betting it was a leftist, probably belonged to antifa, and wanted to kill right wing folk.”

No, the narrative is of a middle aged millionaire white man ironically killing a bunch of Trump supporters with the evul muhsheen guns.


53 posted on 10/02/2017 10:07:46 PM PDT by sagar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lone gunman killed 37 people in a casino in Manila in June and Isis took credit for that . The P I government said isis was not responsible and that it was the lone gunman.


54 posted on 10/02/2017 10:17:10 PM PDT by Boowhoknew
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To: eldoradude

I totally agree. Way more hardware than he needed but a large suite would help with storage


55 posted on 10/02/2017 10:36:24 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: TigersEye

They had the tsar broz on a watch list where they were never watched.


56 posted on 10/02/2017 10:41:40 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: sagar

Middle aged rich men don’t go on killing sprees.


57 posted on 10/02/2017 10:52:48 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

And they “think” with their often volatile feelings.


58 posted on 10/02/2017 11:51:52 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: AndyJackson; 2ndDivisionVet; ETL

“Why target a concert? He didn’t target the offices of a casino where he had been gipped...”

I see a possible pattern. A concert in England was also targeted not that long ago. By Islamics.

This man’s father was also messed up in the head according to a report yesterday — one of the FBI’s most wanted.

So he had that as a role model [unless debunked], and I wouldn’t rule out Islam.


59 posted on 10/03/2017 2:44:51 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ever since Civil War, DNC = terrorists: KKK, black panthers; muslim refugees, BLM ...)
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To: uncbob; ETL

“The fact that he was blowing money at the casinos makes me think he was just a mental case”

Or he knew he was going to die soon.


60 posted on 10/03/2017 2:46:01 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ever since Civil War, DNC = terrorists: KKK, black panthers; muslim refugees, BLM ...)
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