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New dinosaur found looking like dragon - named after Harry Potter dragon
animal discovery ^ | 24 mei | Larry O'Hanlon

Posted on 05/28/2006 6:09:41 AM PDT by S0122017

'Hogwarts' Dragon Unveiled By Larry O'Hanlon, Animal Planet News

May 24 — A dragon-like dinosaur named after Harry Potter's alma mater has performed a bit of black magic on its own family tree, say paleontologists who unveiled the "Dragon King of Hogwarts" on Monday in Albuquerque.

The newly described horny-headed dinosaur Dracorex hogwartsia lived about 66 million years ago in South Dakota, just a million years short of the extinction of all dinosaurs. But its flat, almost storybook-style dragon head has overturned everything paleontologists thought they knew about the dome-head dinos called pachycephalosaurs.

"What you knew about pachycephalosaurs — you can chuck it," said Spencer Lucas, curator of paleontology at the New Mexico Museum of Natural History.

"Dracorex hogwartsia is a rather fantastic new dinosaur," affirmed paleontologist Robert Sullivan of the State Museum of Pennsylvania.

One Scary Skull

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For years dinosaur experts had thought the classic dome-headed, head-butting sorts of pachycephalosaurs evolved from earlier flat-headed ancestors. The last thing they expected to find at the end of the Age of Dinosaurs was a dramatically flat-headed pachycerphalosaurs, or "pachy."

"If you were going to predict the kind of dinosaur that would live at that time, it would not be this," said Lucas.

Without so much as a nod of the head or the waving of a wand, hogwartsia has reversed the pachy family tree.

"Instead of going from flat-headed to domed, you're going from dome-headed to flat," Sullivan told Animal Planet News. Along with several colleagues, Sullivan co-authored the first detailed study of the new dinosaur, published this week in the New Mexico Museum of Natural History & Science Bulletin.

Dracorex hogwartsia, which translates as "Dragon King of Hogwarts," was unearthed in 2003 in the Hell Creek Formation of South Dakota by three amateur fossil hunters working in cooperation with the Children's Museum of Indianapolis. But it wasn't until it was at the museum, while the fossil was being carefully prepared, that renowned dinosaur researcher Robert Bakker happened to catch sight of it while visiting. Bakker then recruited pachycerphalosaurs expert Sullivan and other paleontologists to take a closer look.

As for how it got its name? A group of children at the Children's Museum of Indianapolis drew the connection to the fanciful school of witchcraft that the famous fictional wizard Harry Potter attends and came up with the name hogwartsia.

"It's a very dragon-like looking dinosaur," said Sullivan.

J.K. Rowling, author of the Harry Potter series, has been notified and apparently rather likes the new name.

"I am absolutely thrilled to think that Hogwarts has made a small claw mark upon the fascinating world of dinosaurs," said Rowling, according to a museum press release. "I happen to know more on the subject of paleontology than many might credit, because my eldest daughter was Utahraptor-obsessed and I am now living with a passionate Tyrannosaurus rex-lover, aged three.

"My credibility has soared within my science-loving family, and I am very much looking forward to reading Dr. Bakker and his colleague's paper describing 'my' dinosaur."


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Nice skull.
1 posted on 05/28/2006 6:09:43 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: pcottraux; SunkenCiv; blam

Dinosaur ping.


2 posted on 05/28/2006 6:10:48 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: S0122017

Much like a pearl forms around a grain of sand, every myth has a seed of truth in it, somewhere.


3 posted on 05/28/2006 6:19:21 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander
Much like a pearl forms around a grain of sand, every myth has a seed of truth in it, somewhere.

Yes, even the myth of Harry Potter. But don't let the Potterionists hear that you think it is a myth! They would book you for blasphemy.
4 posted on 05/28/2006 6:23:02 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: S0122017
In the Bible, dinosaur = dragon.

The word dinosaur wasn't coined till 1826 by SIr Richard Owen. Dinos lived with man. http://www.lancs.ac.uk/users/history/studpages/lanchistory/vicky/owen.htm
5 posted on 05/28/2006 6:23:34 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: nmh

Oh i doubt dragon was a term for dinosaur.
Otherwize, satan would have been a dinosaur.


6 posted on 05/28/2006 6:26:19 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: S0122017
"Oh i doubt dragon was a term for dinosaur."

In the KJV that is the word used.

Let's look at Job 40:15-24

[15] Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

[16] Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.

[17] He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.

[18] His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.

[19] He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.

[20] Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.

[21] He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.

[22] The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.

[23] Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.

[24] He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

Job.30:29

[29] I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls.

Pss.91:13

[13] Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

Isa.43:20

[20] The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.

ANd on and on it goes. More often than not interpreting dragon as a literal dinosauer makes sense and is not symbolic.

I realize evolutionists etc. don't believe in God ... that's okay. MY God does as He states in creation and I see no inconsistency with dinosaurs living with man. When you strip away the faulty dating methods ... it makes perfect sense. People have been moving away from Godless origins and are finding it is creation to trump Godless origins. Then again, you believe whatever you wish!
7 posted on 05/28/2006 6:37:10 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: S0122017

Feh.
Today's heretic is tomorrow's prophet.



Having extensively studied [in my former non-Christian years] comparative religion/mythology, high ritual magic, Enochian mysteries, Egyptian rites and other such dusty arcanum, I could tell 'Potterionists' a thing or two.....:)


8 posted on 05/28/2006 6:40:40 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: nmh
I realize evolutionists etc. don't believe in God ... that's okay. MY God does as He states in creation and I see no inconsistency with dinosaurs living with man. When you strip away the faulty dating methods ... it makes perfect sense. People have been moving away from Godless origins and are finding it is creation to trump Godless origins. Then again, you believe whatever you wish!

Chill i believe in God, just not in a young earth. Like I said, the bible states that the devil, the guy that tried to destroy the universe, was a dragon. The eastern version of dragons as spiritual entities can be seen as consistent with this, but a dinosaur?
9 posted on 05/28/2006 6:45:55 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: S0122017

Dragon comes from Drakon [Greek]

http://www.theoi.com/Cat_Drakones.html

More on the "origins of dragons"

http://www.khandro.net/mysterious_dragon1.htm


10 posted on 05/28/2006 6:46:48 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander
Feh. Today's heretic is tomorrow's prophet. Having extensively studied [in my former non-Christian years] comparative religion/mythology, high ritual magic, Enochian mysteries, Egyptian rites and other such dusty arcanum, I could tell 'Potterionists' a thing or two.....:)

Cute and intelligent! :) I think the Abrahamic religions would be more complete with Enoch included. And foreign mythology should indeed be studied and not burned as blasphemy as churches might want it. It just isn't very enlightened.
11 posted on 05/28/2006 6:51:00 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: Salamander
Dragon comes from Drakon [Greek] http://www.theoi.com/Cat_Drakones.html More on the "origins of dragons" http://www.khandro.net/mysterious_dragon1.htm

Dragons and/or serpents where seen as the original representatives of power from heaven. As a result, many rulers claimed to descend from dragons to legitimize their rule and claim heavenly support.

In fact, the english word 'sir' is babylonian for dragon. Since 'sir'was originally used for royalty only, it may be that western royalty at a time claimed the same. Many still cary dragons in their shields!
12 posted on 05/28/2006 6:55:26 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: S0122017

Years and years of studying "pagan" religions brought me back full-circle to Christianity.

All religions have almost identical tales, therefore there must've been one common, universal source for those stories, at some point.

Though I've walked some theologically dangerous paths, I would not trade the journey for the world.

Perhaps God knew that my particular mindset would only accept His truth once I had fully explored all the other "truths" out there, first.

Burning books is not the right approach.
Knowledge that is banned becomes that which is most desired.
Just ask Ray Bradbury.....:)


13 posted on 05/28/2006 7:10:28 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: S0122017

Someday when you have nothing else to do for a very long while, explore the symbolism and mythology behind the simple "salamander"....:)


[yes, everything in my life *does* have to have to some great, deep and infinitely complex meaning].....LOL!


14 posted on 05/28/2006 7:13:21 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander

> ... every myth has a seed of truth in it ...

The more likely explanation is that fossils have always
been around, but there have only recently (last ~150 yrs)
been satisfactory theories of what creatures they were
from and when those creatures existed.

Pre-19th century humans were used to finding bones of
recently living animals, and might suppose that any
such fossils were of animals still wandering about.

Imagine an 11th century dude finding a skull like this,
showing it to the rest of the clan, and then having the
tribal wizard "explain" what monster it came from, and
what the clan needed to do to avoid such monsters (and
whatever it was, it worked :-)


15 posted on 05/28/2006 8:24:41 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: Boundless

"Imagine an 11th century dude finding a skull like this,
showing it to the rest of the clan, and then having the
tribal wizard "explain" what monster it came from, and
what the clan needed to do to avoid such monsters (and
whatever it was, it worked :-)"

Ah, yes...the ol' "Mystery hath more power than revelation" trick....it works every time......;D


[which reminds me...don't forget to light a candle on June 21, just to make sure the sun comes back next Dec. 21, mind you]....;-]


16 posted on 05/28/2006 8:43:18 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: S0122017
Everyone should have a dragon. What else can you do with dead flies your frogs don't eat?
17 posted on 05/28/2006 9:10:29 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET, IN MY SWAMP)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I remember you, you are the guy with the cool photoalbum!
I hadn't much time to look at it anymore, but I remember I liked what I saw!


18 posted on 05/28/2006 9:20:02 AM PDT by S0122017
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To: Angelas; presidio9; Idisarthur; Hegemony Cricket; A knight without armor; new cruelty; SunkenCiv; ..
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19 posted on 05/28/2006 9:50:24 AM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: S0122017

Maybe it had a tumor.


20 posted on 05/28/2006 10:58:06 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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