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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: wintertime

Welcome to the thread.


401 posted on 02/09/2009 11:12:52 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Welcome to the thread.


402 posted on 02/09/2009 11:13:15 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: WestCoastGal

You can work with the hay bales, if you can move them, I have made incubators using them, made a square, put plywood over the top, used a couple pieces and hung electric light bulbs on drop cards, the chicks did fine, easy to care for, LOL, until the feathers came in and they wanted to see the rest of the world.

Using the survival blanket, would mean that any box could quickly be a solar cooker, if aimed at the sun.


403 posted on 02/09/2009 11:31:51 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Hey! I'm glad that I saw your post because it reminded me that Sam's had the landscape fabric back on the floor this past week. It had changed a bit -- 225 ft. instead of 250 and the color was a dark grey instead of the black it used to be. It had some claim about being environmentally friendly, so maybe that is the color change. Anyway, the price was a couple of dollars cheaper than it was. Here is a link so that you can check availability in your area:

Preen Landscape Fabric

50 steel landscape pins are also included in the price, which is a real bonus because those things cost $10 at Lowes.

We bought 4 more blueberry bushes yesterday, along with another raspberry and a thornlesss blackberry. I received 5 or 6 bald cypress trees at the ag show a couple of weeks ago, so I've got more holes to dig than I really want to think about!

Take care my FRiend.

404 posted on 02/09/2009 11:32:28 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: Little Bill; JDoutrider

Excellent report on making bread, I learned a couple points from reading it.

Welcome to the thread.


405 posted on 02/09/2009 11:32:59 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: is_russia_western

Thanks for the bump and welcome to the thread.


406 posted on 02/09/2009 11:33:27 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

Thank you, it looked good to me.

You will love fresh ground grains for bread, it is worth the extra effort.

Let us know how it goes, several here are still in the learning stages and all of us can do with a refresher course.


407 posted on 02/09/2009 11:35:26 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CARDINALRULES

Thank you for explaining bookmark making for Freepers, you did a good job.

Welcome to the thread.


408 posted on 02/09/2009 11:36:20 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Titan Magroyne

Welcome to the thread.

I thought the instructions had good info.

Keep in mind that what you or I think is a perfect loaf, the next person will not.

LOL, on the bread group lists, I have heard more than one person complain that the new bread machine, did not make the lighter than air bread they always bought in the store.

I like a heavy bread....LOL


409 posted on 02/09/2009 11:51:36 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

It would be fun to see how he does it, when you get a chance and find ‘free time’.

If the photos are too big, we can’t open the thread, or I can’t as I am on dial up to the internet.


410 posted on 02/09/2009 11:53:13 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: radiohead

It took me a couple of times pressing the button to realize, ‘Oh yeah, the power’s out, even to the little appliances, you idiot.’ Usually I’m not so dense; maybe I wasn’t fully awake yet. : )<<<

Of course you were still asleep.

Welcome to the thread.

What is my excuse, when I sit here and try over and over to connect to the internet, when it is clear the server is down?


411 posted on 02/09/2009 11:59:05 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: radiohead; TenthAmendmentChampion

Tough problem, you could use the earth boxes and they can be made from the plastic tote tubs.

Since you are renting, maybe via the Free Cycle groups, you could get enough chicken wire or even window screen to make a cage of sorts for the tubs, maybe as simple as 4 posts in the corners and twistems to hold the wire closed.

Your rabbit is giving you the best fertilizer there is, he deserves to eat well.

Vickie, do you remember the do it yourself earth boxes for gardens and did you see post 379, it is almost your situation.


412 posted on 02/10/2009 12:04:03 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Dang, I was hoping that Walton would have some naked oats but no luck.<<<

Why not send them an email and ask who does have them?


413 posted on 02/10/2009 12:10:48 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Good information, I start my seeds indoors in January, using styrofoam coffee cups that I gather where ever I find people drinking out of them.


414 posted on 02/10/2009 12:12:33 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: bushwon

Thanks for the bump and welcome to the thread.

Join right in.....


415 posted on 02/10/2009 12:13:12 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: azishot

Yes, alone and I did not measure my snow, looks like 3 or even 4 inches, enough to close down the road to Laughlin.

I suggested a Freeper contact you for information on Scottsdale, as it has been too many years since I was in your area, for me to go having opinions.


416 posted on 02/10/2009 12:15:34 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I wish I could affors to buy a farm in the middle of nowhere


417 posted on 02/10/2009 12:16:48 AM PST by GeronL (please stand by...)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Oh, you just reminded me.

Peanut butter and honey are both great foods that don’t require refrigeration after the packaging seal has been broken - good items for survival and comfort, especially if you have kids who tend to be finicky.


418 posted on 02/10/2009 12:47:48 AM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Drill now drill hard drill often and give old Gaia a cigarette afterwards she deserves it." HerrBlu)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Hey thanks for remembering and the link to the landscaping. Looks like it is in stock at my Sam's also! I will pick some up this week.

Is the blueberry a free standing bush and how big do they get? Don't yhey take a couple of years to be productive?

419 posted on 02/10/2009 1:22:42 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: DelaWhere

Yep, that’s the reason. I think I explained that about 300 posts back but I don’t think I explained it very well. :-) This has been a very long and interesting topic.

If all you do is cook in a conventional oven the lip is not required but if you want to cook over a campfire you would need it.


420 posted on 02/10/2009 1:54:12 AM PST by Melinda in TN
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