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Mayan Elder Says World Won't End
The Pueblo Chieftan ^ | Tuesday, March 13, 2012 | GAYLE PEREZ

Posted on 03/14/2012 7:18:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Instead, he maintains better era will start Dec. 21

When the current Mayan calendar cycle ends Dec. 21, the world will not cease to exist, says a Mayan elder.

"There is a lot of information of what is going to happen on that date. The scholars say that the Mayan calendar ends, the world ends. But we, as Mayans, don't know anything about that," Elder Miguel Angel Chiquin said speaking through a Spanish translator Monday night at Colorado State University-Pueblo.

"The great teachings that our ancestors have left us over the centuries, the 21st of December, we will be moving over a cosmic bridge of light and hope at the great event of our fifth sun." Chiquin, known as “Abuelo Maya” (Maya Grandfather), spoke on the implications of the ending of the current Mayan calendar to a group of about 50 people Monday in the Occhiato University Center.

A native of Guatemala, Chiquin said when the current calendar cycle of more than 5,000 years ends Dec. 21, a new one will begin.

The event, which Chiquin described as being one of the biggest events of our cosmic lives, is something the Mayan people are looking forward to experiencing.

"The message we come to share with you brothers and sisters is that this great event of the fifth sun, the great event of the 21st of December 2012, is not only for the Maya Pueblo, it's for all humanity," he said.

He said the cosmic bridge that all humanity will start to travel Dec. 21, is going to help make for a better world.

"If it is true that the great events that are coming are marked by the Maya calendar then as the Mayan ambassador, we invite each one of you to come aboard that cosmic ship of the fifth sun."

Although there has been a lot of misinformation about death and destruction accompanying the end of the Mayan calendar, he said for the Maya Pueblo those are all false assumptions.

"We as Mayans since 1992 have begun to prepare to enlighten our white path and to light our yellow path, not only for the Maya Pueblo but for all humanity," he said.

Chiquin said in preparing to cross the cosmic bridge, people must prepare their spirit.

"Brothers and sisters, we are all part of the cosmos and each one of you are stars that shine in your own firmament," he said.

Chiquin told the crowd to not be afraid of the end of the calendar cycle.

"In just a few months, the fifth sun is coming but it is for all of you, it's for all of humanity," he said.

"The message of the elders is that the moment has come to break the mysteries and to end the mental sabotage. Do not have fear," he said. "We'll see you in the next 5,000 years."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: archaeoastronomy; calendar; godsgravesglyphs; mayan; megaliths; ohsomysteriouso; world
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To: humblegunner

Found her head.

It wasn’t where others have said you keep it.


41 posted on 03/14/2012 8:32:09 PM PDT by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: Eaker

“Yer”

Damn auto-correct.


42 posted on 03/14/2012 8:36:52 PM PDT by Eaker (Remember, the enemy tends to wise up at the least convenient moments.)
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To: R_Kangel

The Mayan calendar is more accurate than the Julian (or is it Gregorian?) calendar. They don’t have leap years because it’s based on planetary/lunar/solar movements. The leap year is supposed to account for an error in our common calendar. Something like 1/4 of a day off every year. So it’s not that the date of Dec. 21, 2012 is important... it’s the number of winter solstices and the “final” one just happens to fall on that date.


43 posted on 03/14/2012 8:44:27 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: !1776!

The Mayans probably meant the world would end for Marxist/Socialists. That would be nice!


44 posted on 03/14/2012 8:46:33 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: nickcarraway
Brothers and sisters, we are all part of the cosmos and each one of you are stars that shine in your own firmament," he said.

There are undoubtedly some people (on this planet) Elder Miguel Angel Chiquin hasn't met. Could this be interpreted to mean ... Some folks burn bright and have a tendency to burn others maybe in the form of the fifth sun?

Time to give up the ghost of Mayan past?

45 posted on 03/14/2012 8:48:42 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: nickcarraway

I guess this means “never Mayand.”


46 posted on 03/14/2012 8:52:10 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (.)
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To: dr_lew
"The eclipse pages of the Dresden Codex, for instance, are based on the formula that 405 lunations equal 11,958 days, giving a synodic month of 29.52592 days, only 7 minutes away from the modern value." ATLAS OF ANCIENT AMERICA, Coe, Snow and Benson.

Not bad for a culture without telescopes, computers, atomic clocks and other high-tech goodies.

47 posted on 03/14/2012 9:18:25 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx
Not bad for a culture without telescopes, computers, atomic clocks and other high-tech goodies.

Technology is beside the point. All you have to be able to do is count days and see the moon a few times a month. What's impressive is the attention span, but more than that it's the conception, or apprehension, of the celestial movements.

Note though, that in 12,000 days the 365 day year drifts by about 8 days from the tropical, i.e. seasonal, year. This is a slow drift, and evidently didn't concern them, just as it didn't concern the Egyptians.

48 posted on 03/14/2012 9:46:17 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: nickcarraway
"The great teachings that our ancestors have left us over the centuries, the 21st of December, we will be moving over a cosmic bridge of light and hope at the great event of our fifth sun."

I hate to tell you this, Chief, but that story will never sell in Hollywood. We need disaster, we need apocalypse, we need lots of death and mayhem if we're going to sell any tickets. That light and hope crap may work in politics but the people aren't going to pay good money to watch it.

49 posted on 03/14/2012 9:49:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Maybe the Chief is pulling a “Herbie Bittman”.


50 posted on 03/14/2012 10:07:59 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

I had to look that up. Well, good for him if he is. Probably for the best. lol


51 posted on 03/14/2012 10:13:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: dr_lew
What's impressive is the attention span

It's not that unusual, considering that a priest had not much else to do in his whole life. Nor he'd want to do anything else, seeing how other people live. Most likely priests were selected among smart and patient people. There was a short SciFi story about that.

This is a slow drift, and evidently didn't concern them, just as it didn't concern the Egyptians.

It wouldn't concern anyone as long as the priests correctly tell when to plant seeds and when to gather the crop. Since priests are aware of the drift this is not a problem. Thinking of that, the firm relation between months and seasons is not important at all; it's just a matter of habit. Ancient peasants weren't too much obsessed with counting of days, probably - even presuming that they knew how to count. Mayan calendar is not that simple. Chances are that the peasants knew nothing about the calendar and just used simpler terms (that are related to the agricultural or weather cycles) in their life. Priests would have every reason to keep their knowledge secret, as a job security.

52 posted on 03/14/2012 10:26:49 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: nickcarraway

“Instead, he maintains better era will start Dec. 21”

Well, there’s plenty of room for improvement.


53 posted on 03/15/2012 4:33:56 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: nickcarraway

The Mayans might have been good with math, but their astronomy was a little off. They didn’t have leap years in their calendar. As a result, by the Mayan Calendar, 2012 ended in July of 2011.

In other words, the Mayan “end of the world” came and went without a squeak.


54 posted on 03/15/2012 6:59:29 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: cripplecreek



55 posted on 03/15/2012 7:04:47 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: nickcarraway
But we, as Mayans, don't know anything about that," Elder Miguel Angel Chiquin said speaking through a Spanish translator Monday night at Colorado State University-Pueblo.

They probably couldn't find a Mayan translator.

56 posted on 03/15/2012 7:07:08 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Hunton Peck

ROFLOL.


57 posted on 03/15/2012 9:32:40 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, hell.......

MRE’s on me everybody.


58 posted on 03/15/2012 10:09:03 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/algoof.wav


59 posted on 03/15/2012 10:35:04 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SunkenCiv

Here is a good explanation of the alignment, the Mayan calendar, the universe, and...EVERYTHING!

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_2012_03.htm

I don’t know about you, but I’m tired of telling people that the calendar/world doesn’t end; it’s just the end of one precession cycle, and beginning of a new one...more properly, a half of a cycle, but why confuse things for them even more?


60 posted on 03/18/2012 1:24:01 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (If their "Alternative" actually works, the Greenies will proceed to kill it.)
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