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1 posted on 10/17/2013 8:15:34 AM PDT by hillarynot
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Was Shutdown planned all along by White House?

What a stupid Question ,LOL


2 posted on 10/17/2013 8:17:10 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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Who cares anymore? /s


3 posted on 10/17/2013 8:17:47 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Nothing happens by chance. We are the suckers in Nobama’s circus show.


4 posted on 10/17/2013 8:17:56 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Yes. By Valerie Jarrett. Valerie Jarrett 'was the architect of President's handling of the shutdown
5 posted on 10/17/2013 8:18:01 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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“Was Shutdown planned all along by White House?”

YES.
Everything this clown does is planned.


6 posted on 10/17/2013 8:18:52 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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It’s a moot point now. We might as well have been seeing “We capitulate” signs signed by McConnell and Boehner.


7 posted on 10/17/2013 8:19:00 AM PDT by Gaffer
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The Clintons had the signs stashed away in their basement.


8 posted on 10/17/2013 8:20:57 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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Is there anyone who was surprised that the shutdown happened when it did? I sure wasn’t. I knew that there was no way the two sides would reach agreement before the deadline. So why is anyone amazed that they had the signs ready?


9 posted on 10/17/2013 8:21:11 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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What difference, at this point, does it make?


10 posted on 10/17/2013 8:22:16 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (LIV's are products of an incomplete education.)
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Obama’s Fake Crisis ,one every few months


12 posted on 10/17/2013 8:24:28 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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It’s a coup d’etat. You are living through one. If we’re lucky, we will live to tell our grandchildren about it. In our own country. A free country.


15 posted on 10/17/2013 8:26:22 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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I don’t think it was planned so much as allowed to happen. They could have stopped it but didn’t. Why? Because they knew the GOP was without a plan or leadership (Yeah, I’m looking at you Ted Cruz). He was also aware that the RINO’s would cave. He let his enemies shot themselves. And it worked and it worked well.

The way this was handled by Cruz and some others was a disaster. I don’t care if I agree with what you want, but you just don’t blow something up and walk away. Could he have kept it shutdown? No. But there was no plan and no message. Would a filibuster work?) NO he did not filibuster). Not ultimately, but you do it anyway.

The WH has read Dun Tzu. We used it all the time against inept Defense Atty’s. You let the enemy defeat themselves once you see they don’t know what they are doing.

And, no .... they didn’t know what they were doing. I also go back to what I have said on Issa. You can’t just point a finger and yell. You have to be thorough. You have to have a plan. You have to work ALL angles. You can’t just stand up and scream. And that is all some of these people are doing. Screaming.

I know there are some big Cruz fans here.I still kind of am but was much more before. But seeing these types of people coming to Court was a Prosecutor’s dream. We knew they would just yell to the jury about the police, how terrible the Prosecutor was, etc. But they had no case. And as bad as they may have tried to make us look, even if believed, at the end of the day they were inept. Cruz and Co was inept on this one. Hopefully they won’t continue to be.


16 posted on 10/17/2013 8:28:07 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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Lets take a look at the kind of people we're dealing with. (Story from 2011)

CAUGHT ON TAPE: Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan, Crash The Stock Market, And Redistribute Wealth In America

Basically its all about inflicting maximum pain to force people to accept their "salvation".
19 posted on 10/17/2013 8:30:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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I have stated this all along... professionally produced shutdown signs, all printed -not rapidly on an office copier - but on full-fledged signage -

But you see - Emperor Obama owns the media. He owns the now near majority slug-government-dependent voter population. He KNOWS that any shutdown and pain felt by anyone WILL be squarely blamed on the Republicans. Obama has committed numerous very much impeachable offenses - and has never been prosecuted by CONgress... So he KNOWS he can act with impunity.

Dictator by any other name is still a dictator.


21 posted on 10/17/2013 8:33:55 AM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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Professional Shutdown Signs Appear Overnite? Was Shutdown planned all along by White House?...I sure think so after seeing the arrogance of the guy who heads the Park Service at the House hearings yesterday - when pressed by John Mica on the fact that he did have the choice to take down park barricades and asked would he take them down that day, he sneeringly replied "We'll take them down when you pass the appropriation" - the shutdown was planned to hurt as many people as possible - it may have backfired.....
23 posted on 10/17/2013 8:36:03 AM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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The bulk of the signs I saw, at least for the first few days of the shutdown, looked like they were printed on 8.5 x 11 paper. Later they became more “official” looking.


25 posted on 10/17/2013 8:37:32 AM PDT by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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I do believe that the shutdown was planned or anticipated well in advance.

The signs, however, are no evidence at all. The US Government is extremely well-fixed for printing equipment (and everything else). Those signs could have easily been designed, printed and distributed in less than a week. Tens of thousands.

Even a civilian can easily obtain signs like that, very rapidly. Have a look, for example, at OvernightPrints.com

28 posted on 10/17/2013 8:40:21 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://media.outsideonline.com/images/lees_ferry_closed_sign_fe.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.outsideonline.com/news-from-the-field/rafters-still-restricted-from-grand-canyon.html&h=360&w=640&sz=74&tbnid=jAa7azBhQiFELM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=217&zoom=1&usg=__5vshgku7UYa3CljuVH7SosUC9bs=&docid=nfZYhdqkF24JuM&sa=X&ei=FwVgUsqZOobS9gS68oCADw&ved=0CDkQ9QEwBA

The aluminum signs appeared at the Lee’s Ferry entrance to Glenn Canyon National Rec area on the first day. Marble canyon is in the middle of nowhere in arizona


30 posted on 10/17/2013 8:43:22 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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In his victory speech this morning Obama managed to blame all the economic woes on the shutdown. Jobs were lost. Mortgages were denied. Employers did not hire. Buyers did not buy. Our debt problems were made worse.


31 posted on 10/17/2013 8:44:15 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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Of course it was! There’s probably a purchase order for a few gross of white flags to send over to the RNC too.


32 posted on 10/17/2013 8:44:35 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupy the DC Mall - take back the monuments)
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