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Japan was likely writing centuries earlier than record suggests
The Asahi Shimbun ^ | May 22, 2020 | Kenji Shimizu / Staff Writer

Posted on 05/28/2020 3:27:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Yasuo Yanagida, a visiting professor of archaeology at Kokugakuin University, argues in his latest paper that more than 150 stone artifacts dating from the Yayoi Pottery Culture Period (1000 B.C.-A.D. 250) and the Kofun Period (third to seventh century) he examined could, in fact, be writing tools...

In 2016, an ink slab from the latter half of the Yayoi Period (first to second century) was unearthed at the Mikumo-Iwara archaeological site in Itoshima, Fukuoka Prefecture.

That site is said to have been the capital of Itokoku, a community written about in the ancient Chinese historical document "Gishiwajinden," which recorded encounters with Japan...

The ink slabs were unearthed at former locations of major communities, dating back to between the middle of the mid-Yayoi Period (c. 100 B.C.) and the mid-Kofun Period (fifth century), when Japan was called Wakoku.

Because many pieces of earthenware from Lelang, a commandery set up by China's Earlier Han Dynasty on the Korean Peninsula in 108 B.C., have also been discovered at Mikumo-Iwara, where an inkstone was found, Yanagida argues that Japan's practice of writing was likely introduced around that time.

(Excerpt) Read more at asahi.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: china; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; japan; wakoku
A stone artifact unearthed from the Makimuku archaeological site in Sakurai, Nara Prefecture, which was likely home to the Yamatai state, is described by Yasuo Yanagida as having possibly been used as an ink slab. (Kenji Shimizu)

A stone artifact unearthed from the Makimuku archaeological site in Sakurai, Nara Prefecture, which was likely home to the Yamatai state, is described by Yasuo Yanagida as having possibly been used as an ink slab. (Kenji Shimizu)

1 posted on 05/28/2020 3:27:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 05/28/2020 3:28:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Around a year ago, I read a history of Japan. It was so convoluted that I am not sure I know more than I did before reading it.

Well I do remember that the first Japanese came from Korea. Wait, I forgot about the Ainu.


3 posted on 05/28/2020 3:31:43 PM PDT by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

Ainu. I’m aware of them from being stationed on Hokkaido.


4 posted on 05/28/2020 3:36:04 PM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: SunkenCiv

looks like the homework i used hand in back in high school


5 posted on 05/28/2020 3:37:24 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals N racists dont point ftingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: yarddog

They also moved north along the sea lanes from Taiwan and the Ryukyu Islands (Okinawa). Geologically, Japan is a young country.


6 posted on 05/28/2020 3:45:23 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: SunkenCiv

If China was writing 5000 years ago, it would seem reasonable to assume some of that capability made it to Japan, long ago.


7 posted on 05/28/2020 3:48:30 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL
China was writing perhaps 3500 years ago, rather than 5000.

8 posted on 05/28/2020 3:50:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BobL

This link won’t work for me, has an outlandish claim (7000 BC writing in China) that I just must look at later:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/earliest-writing-sign-use-in-the-seventh-millennium-bc-at-jiahu-henan-province-china/6DDB3E0583ACB6896B3DBCAC143FA846


9 posted on 05/28/2020 3:52:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yea, that’s quite a while ago. The link gets me to the abstract...then they want $25 for the paper.


10 posted on 05/28/2020 3:56:05 PM PDT by BobL
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To: SunkenCiv

The abstract

Early Neolithic graves at Jiahu, Henan Province, China, include tortoise shells which are incised with signs – some of which anticipate later Chinese characters and may be intended as words. Is this the earliest writing? The authors decide rather that the signs in this very early period performed as symbols connected with ritual practice, but they presage a long period of sign use which led eventually to a writing system.

The link since you said it didn’t work for you.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/earliest-writing-sign-use-in-the-seventh-millennium-bc-at-jiahu-henan-province-china/6DDB3E0583ACB6896B3DBCAC143FA846

Note looks the same to me as what you posted.


11 posted on 05/28/2020 3:58:01 PM PDT by Reily
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To: SunkenCiv

Them chicken scratches aint writin.


12 posted on 05/28/2020 4:04:51 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Bringing deadly viruses out of caves and into labs doesn't prevent pandemics, it causes them.)
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To: BobL; Reily
Yeah, that seems a little pricey, considering the issue of the magazine is probably avaiable used for a few bucks. Their conclusion appears to be that the symbols were in use, but it took a long time to start transforming them into a writing system.

13 posted on 05/28/2020 4:08:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

They probably copied it from the the Phoenicians.


14 posted on 05/28/2020 4:29:21 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: BEJ

“Phoenician sailors crossed the seas,
And gave to us their ABCs.”

(from junior high history)


15 posted on 05/28/2020 5:02:36 PM PDT by Ken H (Best SOTU ever!)
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To: BEJ; BobL; Brooklyn Attitude; dp0622; Reily; Tucker39; Vigilanteman; yarddog
'Civ loves to just sashay his big behind into his own topic and completely derail it with some more of his crazy bull****! Here's the Shang keyword, chrono sorted:

16 posted on 05/28/2020 5:05:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
But ink is used for a lot of things besides writing.

Still... could be!

17 posted on 05/28/2020 5:08:21 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Leave it to me to be holdin' the matches when the fire truck shows up & there's nobody else to blame)
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To: Ken H

Great you remember that!


18 posted on 05/28/2020 9:42:26 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: BEJ

I remember it also.


19 posted on 05/29/2020 12:00:52 PM PDT by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites)
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