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PIV is always rape, ok?
Radical Wind - blowing through female outerspace ^ | December 15, 2013

Posted on 01/04/2014 3:58:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Just to recall a basic fact: Intercourse/PIV is always rape, plain and simple.

This is a developed recap from what I’ve been saying in various comments here and there in the last two years or so. as a radfem I’ve always said PIV is rape and I remember being disappointed to discover that so few radical feminists stated it clearly. How can you possibly see it otherwise? Intercourse is the very means through which men oppress us, from which we are not allowed to escape, yet some instances of or PIV and intercourse may be chosen and free? That makes no sense at all.

First, well intercourse is NEVER sex for women. Only men experience rape as sexual and define it as such. Sex for men is the unilateral penetration of their penis into a woman (or anything else replacing and symbolising the female orifice) whether she thinks she wants it or not – which is the definition of rape: that he will to do it anyway and that he uses her and treats her as a receptacle, in all circumstances – it makes no difference to him experiencing it as sexual. That is, at the very least, men use women as useful objects and instruments for penetration, and women are dehumanised by this act. It is an act of violence.

As FCM pointed out some time ago, intercourse is inherently harmful to women and intentionally so, because it causes pregnancy in women. The purpose of men enforcing intercourse regularly (as in, more than once a month) onto women is because it’s the surest way to cause pregnancy and force childbearing against our will, and thereby gain control over our reproductive powers. There is no way to eliminate the pregnancy risk entirely off PIV and the mitigating and harm-reduction practices such as contraception and abortion are inherently harmful, too. Reproductive harms of PIV range from pregnancy to abortion, having to take invasive, or toxic contraception, giving birth, forced child bearing and rearing and all the complications that go with them which may lead up to severe physical and emotional damage, disability, destitution, illness, or death (See factcheckme.wordpress.com for her work on the reproductive harms of PIV, click on the “intercourse series” page or “PIV” in the search bar). If we compare this to even the crappiest online definition of violence: “behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something”. Bingo. It fits: Pregnancy = may hurt, damage or kill. Intercourse = a man using his physical force to penetrate a woman. Intention / purpose of the act of intercourse = to cause pregnancy. PIV is therefore intentional harm / violence. Intentional sexual harm of a man against a woman through penile penetration = RAPE.

If we look at the act in more detail (skip this parag if you can’t take it), PIV is a man mounting on a woman to thrust a large member of himself into her most intimate parts, often forcing her to be entirely naked, banging himself against her with the whole weight of his body and hips, shaking her like he would stuff a corpse, then using her insides as a receptacle for his penile dejection. How is this a normal civilised, respectful way to treat anyone? Sorry for the explicit picture, but this is what it is and it’s absolutely revolting and violating.

The term “f*ck you” is not an insult for nothing, men know why – it’s the worst thing you can do to a human being. It is in itself an extremely physically invasive act, very often painful, generally at the beginning before the pain may be cut off by the genital arousal; causes all sorts of tears, bruises, swelling, discomfort, STDs, vaginal infections, urinary infections, genital warts, HIV and death. Not to forget the additional sado-gynecological interventions/ costs of PIV-maintenance, and all the secondary physical mutiliation and financial costs that go with our duty to make ourselves look decorative for male sexual consumption – such as hair removal, make-up, starvation or forced feeding, torturous limb deforming or cutting up, etc.

The fact intercourse causes so many infections and tears and warts attests to the unnaturalness of intercourse, that it’s not meant to be. The vagina’s primary function isn’t to be penetrated by a penis but to eject a baby for birth. They are two muscle tissues / sphincters pressed against each other to help the baby be pushed out. Penetration of the penis into the vagina is completely unnecessary for conception.

There’s a reason men need to groom us into it, and why this grooming takes so long- because it’s so grossly violating and traumatising that we would otherwise never submit to intercourse. The only reason we may now not feel raped or have the impression we desired or initiated PIV, is because men broke down our barriers very skillfully and progressively from birth, breaking down our natural defences to pain and invasion, our confidence in our own perceptions and sensations of fear and disgust that tell us male sexual invasion is painful, harmful and traumatic.

Through an all-pervasive and powerful male propaganda, they stuff our minds from infancy with the idea that PIV is normal, desirable and erotic, before we can even conceive of it as something horrifying, and make sure we never see any alternative to their lie – or that if we do, we can no longer take in the information, are punished for thinking and saying otherwise. The fact we may not immediately feel raped doesn’t mean it’s not rape, objectively speaking. To give a classic example, many women in prostitution may not identify the act of prostitution as rape, except if the act wasn’t paid for. It doesn’t stop us from saying that all prostitution is rape. We know that our subjective feelings or thoughts may be colonised by men’s perspectives and as radical feminists we don’t let that override and erase the objective reality of violence. (PS -The reason why ONLY the lack of payment is defined as rape is because the offence here isn’t against the prostituted woman but the pimp who was deprived of his income. Rape comes from rapt, which is an old word for theft of woman-as-property.)

Lastly, from a structural point of view, as a class oppressed by men, we are not in any position of freedom to negotiate what men do to us collectively and individually within the heterocage. Men, by whom we are possessed, colonised and held captive, are the sole agents and organisers of PIV. Men dominate us precisely so we can’t opt out of sexual abuse by them; intercourse is the very means through which men subordinate us, the very purpose of their domination, to control human reproduction.


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This is what feminism has devolved to.
1 posted on 01/04/2014 3:58:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can almost hear Eve laughing.


2 posted on 01/04/2014 4:02:52 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The answer is “No, not always.” and “You need help.”


3 posted on 01/04/2014 4:06:35 AM PST by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I heard a similar argument a couple decades ago. It sounded stupid and pointless then too.


4 posted on 01/04/2014 4:06:48 AM PST by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s PIV? Professionally Interactive Vectoring?


5 posted on 01/04/2014 4:11:01 AM PST by Ken522
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All feminists ought to stick by this belief, thus becoming extinct in a generation or two. The world would be better for it.


6 posted on 01/04/2014 4:11:53 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is John Semmens fooling around again?!


7 posted on 01/04/2014 4:12:37 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am now worried about your surfing habits! The link progression must have been a wild one to end up there. BTW, what in the H is PIV?


8 posted on 01/04/2014 4:14:26 AM PST by mazda77
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A rational person would assume this is the mindset that Obama had in mind for his new background check restrictions?


9 posted on 01/04/2014 4:17:10 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Ken522

Penis-in-Vagina??


10 posted on 01/04/2014 4:17:29 AM PST by trailz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think this b!tch has any personal worries regard PIV, as she calls it. She probably looks like Michael Moore and smells like Baltimore. At low tide.


11 posted on 01/04/2014 4:19:29 AM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Imagine having to spend an hour in the vicinity of this creature !


oy-piv-vey

12 posted on 01/04/2014 4:21:19 AM PST by tomkat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No, this is not truly what feminism has devolved to. This is, actually, a VERY sick, VERY broken woman who has had awful trauma in her life. I went to the blog and saw a small collection of very broken women.

I know 'feminist' women, and I even know a few pagan/witch types (this author identifies herself as same) who would lay claim to the feminist label. They have active, healthy sex lives with their chosen man.

I say this without anger, without sarcasm, without any other emotion than compassion: I hope this woman finds the help she needs. She is terribly broken, and in a continuous state of anguish.

13 posted on 01/04/2014 4:25:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing new here, Andrea Dworkin & Catherine McKinnon were saying that many years ago, that all male/female sex was rape.

Yet more examples that some people are capable of being so over educated that they’re incapable of actually thinking or making sense.

Mark


14 posted on 01/04/2014 4:25:53 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the first I’ve heard about Pelosi being In Virgina!


15 posted on 01/04/2014 4:26:00 AM PST by Junk Silver
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author of this is still angry that she never could get a date.


16 posted on 01/04/2014 4:28:29 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I used to really enjoy reading the most radical feminest stuff, Catharine MacKinnon was a favorite, as was Andrea Dyorkin.

This is my favorite feminist book, it is by the womyn who shot Andy Warhol, Valerie Solanas.

S.C.U.M. Manifesto
(Society for Cutting Up Men)

http://www.womynkind.org/scum.htm


17 posted on 01/04/2014 4:28:59 AM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Ken522
"What’s PIV? Professionally Interactive Vectoring?"

Partially Infected "Va-jay-jay"?

18 posted on 01/04/2014 4:30:33 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: mazda77; Ken522

PIV stands for Penis In Vagina. No, I’m not kidding.


19 posted on 01/04/2014 4:31:07 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Ken522
I had to look it up.

After rejecting Particle image velocimetry, I finally came to Penis In Vagina

I suppose that differentiates it from PIA or PIR ... maybe even PIM, and the less used PIE

20 posted on 01/04/2014 4:32:39 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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