"Islam Hadari" for Beginners

An American Expat in Southeast Asia ^ | 17 December 2004 | LHM

[expatguy]

I suppose the first thing you are wondering is "What exactly is Islam Hadari?" and why should I care. You might not have heard about it, because it is not being directed at you, but it is all the rage over here. It is the new and improved, progressive and politically correct version of Islam that the so-called moderates in Malaysia are attempting to sell to the fundamentalists here in their midst and abroad.

So how is the progress and how is it doing? Well if you listen to the Malaysian government, they will tell you that "Islam Hadari" is a big hit and is winning accolades on the world stage. You might have a little success selling this "new and improved version of Islam" to the non-muslim liberals in England and Germany but until you can sell it to even the so-called moderate muslims in your midst then you won't make much progress.

The problem basically boils down to the semantics. We are told that the concept of "Islam Hadari" (Civilisational Islam) means a more progressive Islam. Well, if the opposite of "extremist" Islam is "liberal" or "moderate" Islam then what would be the opposite of "progressive" Islam? Could we say "regressive" Islam?

The word "Islam" means submission. The doctrine of faith in Islam leaves little to no room for interpretation. One must believe in God and accept, believe and acknowledge that the Prophet Muhammad is the messenger of God and that the Quran is the word of God.

A devout follower of Islam must pray five times a day facing the holy city of Mecca, fast during the month of Ramadan, pay tithe, perform the pilgrimage if he is able to, and believe in the doctrine of Islam (there is only one God, Allah, and Muhammad is His Messenger). These are the five pillars of faith in Islam.

It all boils down to a simple often overlooked fact, and that is there is no such thing as a progressive, moderate or extreme Islam. There is no middle ground, no gray areas in Islam. It is black and white. If you believe that there are then you might also believe that Christianity can condone homosexuality or that abortion is a woman's right to choose an still be a good, devout Christian.

[expatguy]

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[7.62 x 51mm]

"Islam is", Khataw preaches, "a peaceful religion that is focused on charity and goodwill toward others."

~ and ~

"Not to mention that Islam came to save humanity from ignorance and oppression. Islam is not a threat to any society. Islam calls for harmony and peaceful co-existence with other religions. It does not permit aggression, violence, injustice, or oppression. At the same time, it calls to morality, justice, tolerance, and peace."

Ummmm, no; no it's not. I won't go into *what it is*, as I'd probably get in trouble... aw, what the heck:

Islam, The Cult of Murder™.

Islam, The Cult of Terror™.

Islam, The Cult of Boy-Buggering™.

Islam, The Cult of Women-Chattelling™.

Islam, The Cult of Horror™.

Islam, The Cult of Rape™.

Islam, The Cult of Ritual Killing™.

Islam, The Cult of Beheading™.

Islam, The Cult of Deviants™.

Islam, The Cult of Hate™.

Islam, The Cult of Lies™.

Islam, The Cult of Female Mutilation™.

Islam, The Cult of Death™.

Islam, The Cult of Christian & Jew Killing™.

Islam, The Cult of Infidel Murder™.

Islam, The Cult of The Mentally-Ill™.

Islam, the Cult of Evil™.

Islam, the Cult of Poverty™.

Islam, the Cult of Illiteracy™.

Islam, the Religion of Peace™, and THEY'LL KILL YOU TO PROVE IT!

[USF]

There is no middle ground, no gray areas in Islam. It is black and white.

Innovations are considered "bidah!"

Imaam Muhammad Naasir-ud-Deen Al-Albaanee:
Every Innovation is a Misguidance

[expatguy]

The prime minister here has spent a lot of time trying to work with PAS up near the Thai border without much success.

Islam Hadari is not selling well to the locals here.

[USF]

The doctrine of faith in Islam leaves little to no room for interpretation.

This is where the salafis win the argument with the innovators and those who engage in "shirk" or collaborate with the "Mushrikun"...

[USF]

Those PAS guys are nuts.... I has several run ins with them over there, none of which were pleasant.

From what I hear, they have become even more radicalized over the last few years.

[expatguy]

Yes they have. There is no way to negotiate or reason with them.

[Conservative Canuck]

"The doctrine of faith in Islam leaves little to no room for interpretation."

Oh yes it does. One of the problems with Islam is there is no central authority to correctly interpret and communicate doctrine. Any nutso Imam can spew his own interpretation to the masses.

[superskunk]

I've met some Muslims in my time. They must not have been very religious, because I got along with them well. None of these men wanted to "kill the infidel"; they just wanted to have good lives and enjoy time with their friends and families. Sadly, there are plenty of Muslims out there who are pure evil. We should identify them and kill them. Easier said than done, but still a necessity.

[nightdriver]

Islam is a thorn in the side of civilization wherever it has gone. History bears this out.

The word "religion" breaks down thus: "Re" - again, and "ligo" - Greek for "to bind."

So, unlike Christianity, which frees a society, a "religion" binds it up again.

Islam is a true "religion," all right. I'm convinced that islam is the "abomination that makes desolate" that is talked about in the Bible.

[Publius6961]

Oh yes it does. One of the problems with Islam is there is no central authority to correctly interpret and communicate doctrine. Any nutso Imam can spew his own interpretation to the masses.

It is no accident that they are all, however, uniformly brutal, illogical and repressive...

[USF]

Conservative Canuck: One of the problems with Islam is there is no central authority to correctly interpret and communicate doctrine.

Err.... problem? The ones that are calling for a return of a Caliph are the ones that are nuts! Its OBL, Al Qaeda and their sympathizers. The one thing we have going for us is the ummah is divided and we can understand and exploit these divisions to OUR advantage.

[expatguy]

I will try to address that soon.

There is room for interpretation only and only if the subject at hand is not covered by the quran or hadith - then it is to the ulama for a fatwa.

[Conservative Canuck]

Right you are. The REAL problem is it's a bast*&$d religion of a bast*&$d people. No new ideas, everything ripped off and twisted from other religions.

[USF]

PS: The Khalif/Caliph and the Khilafah/Caliphate

[Conservative Canuck]

I dunno. It seems to me they just preach their hate, death and destruction of non-belivers and use the Koran to justify it. 'Scuse me, but I'm not really interested in the finer points, until they stop spewing their perverted view of life and faith, and at least enter the 20th century.

[expatguy]

That is fine. Im not sure the direction the blog will take, perhaps it might end up not taking such a cerebral approach and cover some other subjects that people might find of interest.

If there is anything you are interested in about over here then kindly let me know and I will be more than happy to try to cover it.