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Why are Blacks Democrats?
Celmak | 12/13/05 | Celmak

Posted on 12/13/2005 12:48:50 PM PST by celmak

Over 90% of Blacks voted against President Bush and over 80% are Democrat. I don’t get it. The Republican Party has done so much more for integration. Blacks have more in common with the principals of Republicans than due Democrats; poll after poll has established this. Up until the fifties, Black numbers in voting Republican was substantial. Why the departure?

I have a theory. The greatest strides in the civil rights movement were in the 60’s. The greatest leader was Martin Luther King, Jr. MLK, Jr. was peaceful and a Christian Preacher who spoke to fellow Christian’s hearts. This is why many Americans were attracted to his message. After his assassination, the civil rights movement moved toward its secular-socialist ways, away from the Christian message, and toward the Democratic Party. The Christians who were moved by the Christian message, like MLK, Jr.’s, began to leave the Democratic Party, renouncing there racist ways.

I need some help on this, and your own thoughts about why blacks are more apt to vote Democrat. I have a college project that I’m doing and any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, I may publish my findings, so please keep it intelligent, and give permission to print your name if you want credit. Thank you.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: black; blacks; blackvote; democrat; democrats; history; lazy; minorities; minority; welfare
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I'm looking forward to some feedback. ;)
1 posted on 12/13/2005 12:48:53 PM PST by celmak
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To: celmak; mhking; rdb3


2 posted on 12/13/2005 12:50:15 PM PST by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: celmak

because they are.


4 posted on 12/13/2005 12:51:06 PM PST by uncitizen
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To: celmak

decades of indoctrination by those with ill intent...


5 posted on 12/13/2005 12:51:29 PM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: absolootezer0

winner!


7 posted on 12/13/2005 12:52:28 PM PST by freebird5850
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To: InsureAmerica

How 'bout the Depression?


8 posted on 12/13/2005 12:52:36 PM PST by celmak
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To: absolootezer0

Your name is appropriate


9 posted on 12/13/2005 12:52:59 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: celmak

Some reasons..

Deterioration with black culture and breakdown of the family starting in the 60's including high drug usage rate, high dropout rate, high illegitamcy rate, high incarceration rate, high welfare dependency rate.

The more people behave irresponsibly and depend on the government, the more likely they will vote Democrat.


10 posted on 12/13/2005 12:53:04 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: celmak
The democrats bought the votes of blacks with the massive "Great Society" spending programs that over proportionality took money from non black America and gave it to black America. We can argue that these programs destroyed the black family - but now they are entitlements and blacks will vote for anyone who will fund and expand them...

The same mentality is with seniors, the democrat vote and social security.

"When you rob Peter to pay Paul, you will get the vote of Paul. If there are more Pauls than Peters, you win the election."

11 posted on 12/13/2005 12:53:24 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: celmak

How about the black minority is a surrogate action group for post holocast Jews. The blacks were assigned civil rights issues that would benefit the smaller minority Democrat Jews.

Once the ball started rolling it was a sure winner.


12 posted on 12/13/2005 12:54:19 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Franks in '08)
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To: celmak

"Principal" is either a designation of a senior rank or a capital bringing in financial returns [say, "interest on a principal"]. "Principle" is probably what you meant.


13 posted on 12/13/2005 12:54:19 PM PST by GSlob
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To: celmak
Wouldn't modern allegiance to the Democrats be traced to the loyalty to the Civil Rights focus of JFK and LBJ and Barry Goldwater's unfortunate opposition to the Civil Rights Bill?
14 posted on 12/13/2005 12:54:39 PM PST by Borges
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To: celmak

It goes back to the Johnson administration when he voted into law "The Great Society" meaning you could sit on your ass and collect welfare for life. This was specifically sold to inner-city blacks coming on the heals of then civil rights movement which was Republican led, I should add.

His exact phrase (dont flame me this is an actual quote!!) "I'll have them niggers voting Democrat for YEARS"


15 posted on 12/13/2005 12:55:19 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help...)
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To: celmak

the dpression? yes, it could be argued it was one confluence of events which served the indoctrinators well...

but slavery is gone, the depression is gone, a successful black is just as likely as a successful white to tout the wonders of the free market......Now someone with an agenda, (jackson, sharpton, farakhan) will keep the black man down as long as it serves their purpose. All must be responsible, though, of course..


16 posted on 12/13/2005 12:55:44 PM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: celmak

I notice blacks go out of thier way to be 'different', to the point of segregating themselves from the mainstream.


17 posted on 12/13/2005 12:55:52 PM PST by Crooked Constituent
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To: celmak

Because Democrats decided that they wanted to champion the Civil Rights movement and set out to show Blacks that they were victims and needed a lot of free handouts to "make it". Human nature seems to gravitate towards those that want to give you something for nothing and to tell you that you can do no wrong because any wrong you do is someone else's fault. The irony is, Democrats have effectively put many Blacks back into slavehood, and they embraced it willingly. Even Stokley Carmichael understood the problems inherent in the Democrat version of the Civil Rights movement and warned Blacks that they would become slaves if they went along. He co-authored a book titled "Black Power" that was pretty incendiary, but also mentioned the problems of following the Dims.


18 posted on 12/13/2005 12:56:46 PM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: celmak
For the same reason they speak Ebonics. It's self-imposed ignorance and slavery.

If a black wants to speak in proper English they call you an "Uncle Tom" or an Oreo cookie. Same with voting Republican. Republicans are "da man".

19 posted on 12/13/2005 12:57:08 PM PST by manwiththehands ("Have a RamaHanuKwanzMas" - Glenn Beck (And Merry Christmas!) (... and "Happy Holidays!"))
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To: Clemenza

We remember his message in Washington, and blacks were disproportionately unemployed in government at the time. Dems did not want them. What changed them from Republican?


20 posted on 12/13/2005 12:57:17 PM PST by celmak
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To: celmak

Pick up Black Rednecks and White liberals by Thomas Sowell for more enlightment. I bet he would even answer a well thought out email from you also : )


21 posted on 12/13/2005 12:57:22 PM PST by alisasny (BYE B YE TOOKIE)
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To: celmak

The liberal media only appoints liberal black leaders. Any prominent black that strays off the liberal plantation is either ignored or slapped down hard.


22 posted on 12/13/2005 12:57:57 PM PST by bad company ( Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: celmak

Why are Blacks Democrats?

Its easier.


23 posted on 12/13/2005 12:59:14 PM PST by The_Republican
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To: celmak

Most of the blacks I know are raised in and around hate. (hate for whites) They are taught that most of their problems are white induced. That education is a white way to keep them under the thumb. Several told me that it was very hard to be a conservative black community. They put themselves between a known culture and their family; and the white culture they do not know or are accepted in. The Democrat Liberals push this message, are generally racists in that they look down on and feel sorry for the lesser people (basicly all of us poor unwashed of the masses but especially blacks too oppressed to help themselves) because they are smarter and blessed with insights we don't have.


24 posted on 12/13/2005 1:00:51 PM PST by right right
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To: celmak

JFK


25 posted on 12/13/2005 1:01:58 PM PST by thoughtomator (What'ya mean you formatted the cat!?)
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To: alisasny

Thanks, will do. ;)


26 posted on 12/13/2005 1:01:59 PM PST by celmak
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To: celmak
Republicans tell you what you need to know. Democrats tell you what you want to hear. In other words, Democrats are snake oil salesmen and to a greater extent, the blacks bought it. A lot of whites bought it too, but not as many.

The republican message of study in school, work hard, don't do drugs, don't be a criminal, plan for the future, take individual responsibility for your well being did not sell.

The democrats said "If you don't do well in school, we will give you affirmative action. We will go easy on you if commit a crime. Drug use is ok in moderation. We will take from the rich whites and give the money to you in the form of free govt. services like health care.

27 posted on 12/13/2005 1:02:45 PM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
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To: celmak

kidd's theorem: There are no black RINOs

Basis: it takes a lot of bravery and intelligence to ignore the political leanings/tradition of your family and friends and to analyze which party is in better agreement with your real sentiments. Thus, we get high quality leadership, with out hypocracy, from black conservatives (Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Walter Williams, etc). Colin Powell is the closest thing to a black RINO, but compare him with Lincoln Chaffee...no contest.


28 posted on 12/13/2005 1:03:21 PM PST by kidd
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To: The_Republican
Are you saying that blacks aren't as intelligent?
29 posted on 12/13/2005 1:04:05 PM PST by celmak
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To: celmak

Are you saying that blacks aren't as intelligent?


30 posted on 12/13/2005 1:06:11 PM PST by The_Republican
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To: celmak
The Dems (with complicit assistance by the MSM) approached and appealed to the black voters. They controlled the media which enabled the Dem party to portray themselves as the party with a heart, as the party for civil rights. The Dems rely on our society's short term memories, our lack of history (wherein a selective, revisionist history has taken hold).

The Dems push for the welfare state, the idea of entitlements in all facets of our society. The age of personal resposiblity, of personal accountability was no longer set forth as a virtual to be emulated.

So many achieving Blacks are degraded, by other Blacks, for their successful efforts, in their striving to better themselves. So too the Dems set forth the 'idea' that minorities are 'kissin up to the man' if they stray from the Democrat plantation.

As was stated in FR's "March for Justice (31 Oct 1998), The Dem party practices the 4 D's in their voter base:

To keep them in
Despair
Dependant
Depressed and
Democrat

31 posted on 12/13/2005 1:06:39 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: staytrue

When did the Dems become this way, and why are spineless Republicans not pushing this?


32 posted on 12/13/2005 1:10:29 PM PST by celmak
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To: celmak

To understand why Blacks vote Democrat, you need to know a bit of history. When they were first given the vote following the Civil War, enfranchisement was the idea of Republicans and staunchly opposed by Democrats. The Republicans were the party of Lincoln, the party of abolition - why vote Democrat?

That was the 1860s. Republicans gradually became the party of business interests by the 1880s. By the 1880s, a system of Jim Crow laws had been newly cemented as well, effectively preventing most American Blacks from voting. So, from the 1880s til the 1960s Civil Rights era, Blacks weren't voting.

Meanwhile, FDR took office in 1933. Part of his campaign strategy was creating a coalition of people who were traditionally Republican voters and enticing them to the Democrats. This included Union workers, farmers, and minorities (blacks, Jews, immigrants, etc). Why would they vote for the Democrats?

The Republicans were still largely the party of rich white people. Union workers were easily swayed because the Republicans backed the businesses keeping down their wages and forcing them to work in dangerous factories (back when reform of such things was still a majorly contested issue). Farmers went Democrat because Hoover had done nothing for them whatsoever, why not try someone new with FDR's New Deal of farm subsidies? Minorities voted FDR's way because they were often the non-Union work force for Republican-owned corporations.

Whatever your politics, you have to admit FDR's campaign strategy worked: his coalition re-elected him for 12 years.

Gradually, his coalition fell apart. Farmers felt his policies were wasteful. Union-workers started voting more for their morality (abortion is a powerful voting motivator) than their economic interests. Blacks, however, have stayed faithful to the Democrats. Contrary to your first post Celmak, the Democrats have done a great deal to keep African Americans within their voting bloc. The New Deal, the Civil Rights Era, the Great Society were all policies designed to benefit the poor, and all were spearheaded by Democrat administrations - and like it or not, American Blacks are usually a (sadly) disproportionate majority of America's poor.


33 posted on 12/13/2005 1:12:40 PM PST by Karweenie
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To: celmak
I need some help on this, and your own thoughts about why blacks are more apt to vote Democrat.

Because Democrats have controlled the media and education for the last 70 years. In doing so the vast majority of blacks have no idea of history or the lies they have been fed.

This is an oldie but a goody about the true history and nature of the Democratic Party.

An Open Letter to the Democratic Party

By Frances Rice

We, African American citizens of the United States, declare and assert:

Whereas in the early 1600’s 20 African men and women were landed in Virginia from a Dutch ship as slaves and from that tiny seed grew the poisoned fruit of plantation slavery which shaped the course of American development,

Whereas reconciliation and healing always begin with an apology and an effort to repay those who have been wronged,

Whereas the Democratic Party has never apologized for their horrific atrocities and racist practices committed against African Americans during the past two hundred years, nor for the residual impact that those atrocities and practices and current soft bigotry of low expectations are having on us today,

Whereas the Democratic Party fought to expand slavery and, after the Civil War, established Jim Crow Laws, Black Codes and other repressive legislation that were designed to disenfranchise African Americans,

Whereas the Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist arm of the Democratic Party, and their primary goal was to intimidate and terrorize African American voters, Republicans who moved South to protect African Americans and any other whites who supported them,

Whereas, according to leading historians (both black and white), the horrific atrocities committed against African Americans during slavery and Reconstruction were financed, sponsored, and promoted by the Democratic Party and their Ku Klux Klan supporters,

Whereas from 1870 to 1930, in an effort to deny African Americans their civil rights and to keep African Americans from voting Republican, thousands of African Americans were shot, beaten, lynched, mutilated, and burned to death by Ku Klux Klan terrorists from the Democratic Party,

Whereas Democratic Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry Truman rejected anti-lynching laws and efforts to establish a permanent Civil Rights Commission,

Whereas the Democratic party has used racist demagoguery to deceive African Americans about the history of the Republican Party that: (a) started as the anti-slavery party in 1854, (b) fought to free African Americans from slavery, (c) designed Reconstruction, a ten-year period of unprecedented political power for African Americans, (d) passed the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments to the U. S. Constitution granting African Americans freedom, citizenship, and the right to vote, (e) passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 granting African Americans protection from the Black Codes and prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations, (f) passed the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 and 1965 granting African Americans protection from the Jim Crow laws, (g) established Affirmative Action programs to help African Americans proper with Republican President Richard Nixon's 1969 Philadelphia Plan that set the first goals and timetables and his 1972 Equal Employment Opportunity Act that made Affirmative Action Programs the law of our nation, and (h) never sponsored or launched a program, passed laws, or engaged in practices that resulted in the death of millions of African Americans,

Whereas Brown vs. the Board of Education of Topeka (a 1954 decision by Chief Justice Earl Warren who was appointed by Republican President Dwight Eisenhower) was a landmark civil rights case that was designed to overturn the racist practices that were established by the Democratic Party,

Whereas after Democratic President Franklin D. Roosevelt received the vote of African Americans, he banned African American newspapers from the military shortly after taking office because he was convinced the newspapers were communists,

Whereas Democratic President John F. Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Law, opposed the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and was later criticized by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. for ignoring civil rights issues.

Whereas Democratic President John F. Kennedy authorized the FBI (supervised by his brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy) to investigate Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. on suspicion of being a communist,

Whereas Democratic Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, made a 14-hour filibuster speech in the Senate in June 1964 in an unsuccessful effort to block passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and was heralded in April 2004 by Democratic Senator Christopher Dodd as a senator who would have been a great leader during the Civil War,

Whereas when the 1964 Civil Rights Act came up for vote, Senator Al Gore, Sr. and the rest of the Southern Democrats voted against the bill,

Whereas in the House of Representatives only 61 percent of the Democrats voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act as compared to 80 percent of Republicans, and in the Senate only 69 percent of the Democrats voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act, compared to 82 percent of the Republicans,

Whereas Democratic President Bill Clinton sent troops to Europe to protect the citizens of Bosnia and Kosovo while allowing an estimated 800,000 black Rwandans to be massacred in Africa, vetoed the welfare reform law twice before signing it, and refused to comply with a court order to have shipping companies develop an Affirmative Action Plan,

Whereas Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore created harmful racial division when he falsely claimed that the 2000 presidential election was “stolen” from him and that African Americans in Florida were disenfranchised, even though a second recount of Florida votes by the “Miami Herald” and a consortium of major news organizations confirmed that he lost the election, and a ruling by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission declared that African Americans were not denied the right to vote,

Whereas the Democratic Party's soft bigotry of low expectations and social promotions have consigned African Americans to economic bondage and created a culture of dependency on government social programs,

Whereas the Democratic Party's use of deception and fear to block welfare reform, the faith-based initiative and school choice that would help African Americans prosper is consistent with the Democratic Party's heritage of racism that included sanctioning of slavery and kukluxery, a perversion of moral sentiment among leaders of the Democratic Party whose racist legacy bode ill until this generation of African Americans,

Now, therefore, for the above and other documented atrocities and accumulated wrongs inflicted upon African Americans, we demand a formal written apology and other appropriate remuneration from the leadership of the Democratic party.

34 posted on 12/13/2005 1:12:59 PM PST by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: celmak
"I need some help on this, and your own thoughts about why blacks are more apt to vote Democrat."

Follow the money.
During the sixties, the Democrats bought the black vote, and it has never changed. They are stuck on the plantation.

They have little comprehension of world or national affairs, but still are told that they will loose everything if they do not vote Demo.
I am sorry to sound so racist, but I was raised in Memphis, and have spent my entire life among these people. I know, to some extent, how they think.
These people think, by mistake, that the Democrats are their family.
Those that choose to go into politics, are pandered to by the party, and the results are bad.
Most all of the black state legislators from Memphis are under endowment for corruption and receiving payoffs, but to them it is a birthright.

I posted a comment on a thread about the most liberal cities in the US. They are rated by how the people vote.
Of course, cities like Gary, Indiana came out as the most liberal in America, but it is a skewed poll.
Blacks are not anymore liberal then they are conservative, but they vote in lockstep for Democrats.
One could say that cities like Ithica, NY and Madison, Wisconsin are much more liberal, but they rate below the cities with ultra high black populations.

Over the years, more and more blacks escape from the plantation, but it is a very slow process.
35 posted on 12/13/2005 1:17:13 PM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: celmak
Follow the money.

Democrats to black Churches plus 'sermons' by the candidates in this venue.

36 posted on 12/13/2005 1:22:58 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: AlexW
"endowment" should read "indictment"
37 posted on 12/13/2005 1:24:36 PM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: celmak
You might ask a similar question of white democrats, especially older people - they believe the perception that the democrats look out for the 'little guy' and rich white country club republicans are unconcerned about anything but profits. At least that's what my elderly parents and inlaws believed.
38 posted on 12/13/2005 1:28:56 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: celmak

Isn't the more pertinent question for this forum "why are conservatives Republicans?"


39 posted on 12/13/2005 1:36:02 PM PST by Grut
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To: celmak

The answer to your question may lie in Africa.


40 posted on 12/13/2005 1:36:23 PM PST by johnny7 (“You have a corpse in a car, minus a head, in the garage. Take me to it.”)
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To: celmak
There's two reasons in play that ultimately converge.

Historically, knowledge, wisdom, information and trust all came from the pulpit in the black community. In many ways, that trust in the man in the pulpit remains.

Enter the charlatans that we "know and love" -- Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Kweisi Mfume and others. The fact that most (if not all) of the so-called leadership are ministers is not a coincidence.

Those individuals took advantage of their trusted station to paint the "distinguished opposition" as evil, mean, heartless, and all sorts of other words.

That made it very easy to paint those blacks who dared to step outside the box that the charlatans paint as "uncle toms," "oreos," "lawn jockeys," and worse names. It helps to marginalize any and everyone on the right.

Conversely, there is a historical split from the early 20th Century: Booker T. Washington encouraged a doctrine of "doing for one's self" and "picking one's self up by their own bootstraps."

W.E.B. DuBois, pushed the idea of a "talented ten percent" taking the "lead" to go forward and pull the remainder of society behind.

I'm sure you can guess which side won.

DuBois used that concept with the formative years of the NAACP, and his followers embraced the mindset.

The single largest fallacy of that mindset is that the masses, i.e., those of us great un-washed who aren't part of the "talented tenth" are far smarter and more resourceful than many believe.

We are those who Washington felt would rise to lead not only blacks in America, but to stand hand in hand with everyone to help lead America as a whole.

We are there; we are rising.

It isn't an instant process -- God knows that I wish it were, but it isn't.

But as more of us leave the plantation of the "talented tenth," we begin to step beyond the liberal mindset and the Democratic party.

And thank God for that!

42 posted on 12/13/2005 2:04:49 PM PST by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: mhking

This is a Rocky Marciano vs Joe Louis fight.


43 posted on 12/13/2005 2:14:35 PM PST by AGreatPer
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To: celmak
When did the Dems become this way, and why are spineless Republicans not pushing this?

Dems have been snake oil salesmen for as long as I can remember. The Pubs are too interested in positive solutions to engage in finger pointing. Fingerpointing is just not part of our make up.

44 posted on 12/13/2005 2:53:14 PM PST by staytrue (MOONBAT conservatives are those who would rather lose to a liberal than support a moderate)
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To: celmak
The old Democratic adage:

Tell 'em a lie often enough and they're bound to believe it.

45 posted on 12/13/2005 3:27:55 PM PST by RedBeaconNY (Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
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To: celmak
Many Blacks are still locked into something like the urban machine politics that kept immigrants loyal to the Democrats a century ago. It's not as explicit now, but the idea is that voting for the machine brings your community jobs and aid.

Most of us were in that position in the 1930s -- Southerners, Catholics, Jews, Midwestern farmers -- but the dependence has lasted longer among Blacks. There's an element of loyalty in it. It may not be justified, but Blacks were loyal to the Republicans for 70 to 100 years, so we can probably expect loyalty to the Democrats to go on for at least a little longer. When a Black Democrat scores an impressive win it helps to tie Blacks to the party in the same way that Kennedy and Carter won back Catholics or Southerners for them. In the long run it won't matter if Blacks come to see their interests better represented by another party, but that hasn't happened yet.

It looks like many White Americans have a really strong suburban bias. The suburban way of life is presumed to be the best and life in the city centers a poor alternative. A lot of these suburban chauvinists are Republicans. Is it any wonder that many in the cities gravitate to the Democrats? If you or I are strongly in favor of commuting by car and opposed to mass transit, is it surprising that those who rely on busses or streetcars for transporation will vote for the other party?

People can choose a party out of ideology, interest, or affiliation. It's the third way that most observers ignore. People don't necessarily vote for a political philosophy or for favors. They vote for the candidate or party that "looks most" like them. In a two party system, if people are convinced that one party is very different from themselves and its leaders less interested in what's important to them, they'll vote for the other party, even though it may not be the best overall choice.

46 posted on 12/13/2005 4:19:25 PM PST by x
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To: Stand Watch Listen
The Dems (with complicit assistance by the MSM) approached and appealed to the black voters. They controlled the media which enabled the Dem party to portray themselves as the party with a heart, as the party for civil rights.

It's really basic. The Democrats & MSM continuously stay on message that all Afro-Americans and fellow Democrats are VICTIMS...and WILL ALWAYS BE VICTIMS...and only the Democratic Party will take care of these victims...
Ever heard a Democrat proclaim they are not a victim?

47 posted on 12/14/2005 1:04:49 AM PST by FDNYRHEROES (Liberals are not optimistic; they are delusional.)
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To: Grut
Conservatives have growing power in the Republican party, especially after Ronaldus Magnus. Blacks have decreasing power in the Dems Party, if any.
48 posted on 12/14/2005 11:27:09 AM PST by celmak
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To: Mr. K
Ive looked all over for your quote but cannot verify it. Do you have a link?
49 posted on 12/14/2005 11:38:24 AM PST by celmak
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To: mhking

Yours is the better theory. I have a theory that may compliment yours:

During the early 1800’s, whites in the South were, by a wide majority, Democrat. In the same way that blacks Democratic thinking is today, whites in the South, at that time, thought that menial work was “slave” work. Though there were not as many, if any, handouts from the government at the time, whites saw Republicans as caring only for northerners and taking away any handouts they would receive from the southern Democrats. Today, blacks are indoctrinated by peers, public schools, white elites, and black “leaders” that, because they were slaves once, they cannot achieve anything higher than menial “slave” work, and those that do are winners of life’s lottery. Blacks are stuck in this rut of not accepting ground level jobs, which eventually lead to higher paying jobs (I know, I’m in one), but are addicted to the government handout.

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.


50 posted on 12/14/2005 12:05:26 PM PST by celmak
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