(Vanity) FreeRepublic Folding@Home Project Update (We're in the Top 1,550)

http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120 ^ | 12-16-05 | me

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FreeRepublic Team Ranked #1,550 (of 41,708 teams)

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Previous FR F@H thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1537549/posts

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Free Republic Folders

Date of last work unit	2005-12-15 21:10:53
Active CPUs within 50 days	55
Team Id	36120
Grand Score	122645 (certificate)
Work Unit Count	909 (certificate)
Team Ranking (incl. aggregate)	1556 of 41708
Home Page	http://www.freerepublic.com
Fast Teampage URL	http://fah-web.stanford.edu/teamstats/team36120.html

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Rank (within team)	User	Score	WU
1	Compaq_Owner	19752	136
2	Dads_AMD3000	18445	64
3	Texas_Booster	17577	139
4	Compaq_Owner3	12397	104
5	T_Admin	6796	53
6	bubba_sales	6223	50
7	Jim	5007	39
8	Uriah	3903	34
9	Tony1	3176	23
10	Ken_in_Texas	2437	10
11	Malsua	2340	15
12	ENDUSER_Michael	2298	16
13	Weasel	2167	19
14	Steve_Wilson_1	2053	19
15	Brian_Admin	1649	12
16	kenth	1622	17
17	Vern_1	1523	13
18	dfwddr	1339	17
19	Compaq_Owner_David	1294	12
20	susan	1141	10
21	Kevin_Inspiron	952	6
22	Chesterbelloc	852	8
23	Trax_Admin	848	7
24	BoT	843	30
25	David_G_1	808	7
26	Tactical	671	4
27	Big_Bobs_FTW_1	549	3
28	David_Griffith	453	4
29	A.Hun	422	3
30	FourtySeven	300	2
31	Vladimir_F	287	10
32	xeniast	287	2
33	Hawkeyes_Girl	255	3
34	sshultz460	206	1
35	Drachenfels	206	1
36	ShakeNJake	206	1
37	cgk	201	2
38	CPQ_1700	197	2
39	Michael_K	182	1
40	sales_don	182	1
41	Heil_Dad	171	3
42	vidi	166	1
43	VICI	106	1
44	Veni	48	1
45	ChadGore	48	1
46	Becky1	41	1
47	jarod_1	19	1

[prion]

Shoot! I'm going to have to unplug for the holidays soon. And I was doing so well...

[Chode]

my work unit is up to a wopping SIX% now... at this rate, i might get on the board by this time next year 8^)

[cgk]

Thanks for the ping!

So... when it says a new 5000 frame WU will be completed Thurs Sep 22, year 2016 (3933 days) - it's just kidding, right? :o)

[systematic]

my computer is working on a 12,500 frame WU.

To calculate the time it takes to complete it, multiply thg frames times the time/frame (in my case it's 12, frames x 44 seconds/frame)

[cgk]

Uhm... that's not good. I guess there's no way to control what kind of WU's you receive?

It actually reads that this 5000 frame WU takes 1132 minutes per frame and lists an end date for the WU of:

17:39 Thr 22 Sep 16
3933d: 07h:42m:22s

I just completed a 12,500 frame like yours that took a couple days max... from 7 s per frame to 44 s per frame.

[systematic]

You must have a super computer. From what I understand, WUs get assigned based on processor speed, available RAM and internet connection speed.

The good news is that ranking is based on points (not WUs), so you'll a ton of points for that.

I think you can get more than 2,000 points for huge WUs. The smallest WUs I've seen only result in 15 points.

[HangThemHigh]

My problem (1st one) says 400,00 out of 500,000 steps done. It downloaded this one Dec 10. Even though I don't get a direct report of time per step, it looks like a step is taking about 1½ seconds.

I am using the console version, anybody know if a step and frame are the same (apparently not)? Is there a relation between frames (or steps) and the score? (I think this will vary per machine if a relation exists.) I'm wondering if my problem is going to help the team score any.

[cgk]

I surely never thought of my computer as a super computer. It's an Intel Celeron 2.8 GHz with 512 RAM... cable modem connection.

But I did solve the problem, if there was one as far as it taking 11 years to finish this WU... heh.

I quit the program and started it up again. Now it reads:
2m/9s per frame...
85/5000 frames completed.
WU end date: Fri Dec 23, 7days

Much better... my panic is over!

[cgk]

I am pinging some of the "experts" to your post, as I am not certain. I do believe a step and a frame are the same thing, but I am very new to this.

I'll demonstrate my naivete - is the console version you are using the one where you have an icon in your system tray in windows? You can double-click it to view the program status/working? If so, I guess I am using the console version as well!

[prion]

The console version runs in an MSDOS window, with no graphics. The Windows version piddles away a little of its processing power by showing you that rendering of a molecule. Not much, but I'm cheap.

[HangThemHigh]

If the console version has a window of any sort, I haven't found it. I have just been looking at the the log it keeps.

[prion]

If the console version has a window of any sort, I haven't found it.

You must have it set to run at boot. I kick mine up manually on the command line, hence the window. If I close the DOS window, it exits the program.

[ken in texas]

I suspect that the relationship between steps and frames varies depending on the particular molecule being examined.

In one of my current projects there are 500 frames, and the log shows a total of 500,000 steps. Another machine has 2062 frames, and is logging progress for a total of 2062 steps. In other words, it depends. :-)

[dfwddr]

Here's an interesting comment from the F@H Support Forum:

The word "Frames" is poorly defined in FAH. You'll find two different meanings, but in both cases, they are fractions of a complete WU. Depending on the speed of your computer, you'll probably complete a WU in one to several days. Then the results will upload and an new work assignment will be downloaded. A few hours later, the points will appear on-line under your name and team number. Each work assignment has a project number, and additional information about that project can be found on the Project Summary (See a link on the top of this page, or on the Stanford web page.) Detailed information is available in a file called FAHlog.txt. You'll find messages similar to the following: [05:04:24] Completed 0 out of 125000 steps (0) [05:42:19] Completed 1250 out of 125000 steps (1) [06:20:08] Completed 2500 out of 125000 steps (2) [06:58:02] Completed 3750 out of 125000 steps (3) and on the GUI you'll find a message saying Frames Completed: 3/125 which really means I've completed 3% of the current WU. Unlike the information shown on the GUI, most people would say this is frame 3, and the WU has 100 frames (one associated with each message). In your case, you probably have a WU with 25000000 steps and you've now completed 5000000 which is shown as 5000/25000 which is 20% completed. When it gets to 100% you'll have completed your first WU. The Folding process takes a lot of computing, and progress on any one machine is slow, even on the fastest of PCs . . . and there are some 180,000 active PCs all working simultaneously on this project.

This dosen't really answer the frames/steps question, but may help us understand frames better. This quote was made by the sys admin.

[HangThemHigh]

Are you running the console version? If so, where are you getting the frame count?

[systematic]

Frames completed shown in the middle (left side) of page