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EXCLUSIVE! OBAMA'S FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE: How the forgery was made.
The Greater Evil ^ | 07/23/08 | Polarik

Posted on 07/23/2008 12:40:56 PM PDT by Polarik

There are three facts about Internet blog stories that you need to know:

  1. Plagiarism is rampant on the Internet.
  2. You cannot always believe what you see and read.
  3. When you see the word, "EXCLUSIVE," in the title, it does not mean that the story was the first one or even the only one.
You can imagine my chagrin when I read the following headline in the Atlasshruggs blog:

ATLAS EXCLUSIVE: FINAL REPORT ON OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE FORGERY CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN

What this headline, and the story it trumpets, confirm is that all three of the "facts" listed above are validated by this story.

Actually, my first reaction to it was, "Yawn." Here is an article proclaiming to have the exclusive findings that Obama's Birth Certificate image is a forgery -- or, using the acronym that I alone coined, Obama's "COLB ("Certificate of Live Birth") is a forgery.

The only problems with that statement are as follows:

In light of the above, my second reaction to it was, "What chutzpah!" (Which is the Yiddish word for "WTF.")

How can an article, posted
on July 20, or a full month after my original proclamation that Obama's COLB image was graphically altered, be labeled as exclusive? I will admit that the techniques used by the author, TechDude, were not the ones I used to discover the forgery, and that he was the only one, to my knowledge, to have used them.

For that, I'd like to offer a pat on the back to TechDude for the work that he did, but also a slap on the wrist, to both Techdude and Pam Geller for misleading the public by implying that they were the first ones to present evidence of a graphic forgery.

Now, that they've basked in the glory of their nonexclusive, "Exclusive," it's time to set the record straight.

On June 19, I wrote the following on my TownHall blog, The Greater Evil:

"The Daily Kos blog has posted a JPG that allegedly is Barack Obama's "Certificate of Birth." From a detailed analysis of the image and the text, it looks like it was created by a graphics program, and is not a true copy of an original, certified document."

So, which part of that statement did they miss? It also appeared on The Free Republic about the same time, and afterwards, on TexasDarlin's blog.

So, which part of these blog stories did they miss?

In my first post, I did make some wrong assumptions, for which I replied, Mea Culpa, and made the necessary changes.

For example,
I also made mention of the odd-looking border back then, but that finding turned out to be irrelevant to my research.

However, my essential thesis was then, and has always been, that the Kos image, and all of its relatives, including the FactCheck image, were graphic forgeries, even though I focused on different aspects of it than TechDude did. For him, the border was a crucial part of the puzzle.

For me, that border could have been red hearts and purple flowers for all that it mattered.

I focused on the anomalies of the text, which were many and not explained away by the reasons cited by my critics.

Now, this is not to take away any of the work that TechDude has done, which is notable in its own right, and if you read my blog, you will see proper attributions made to him and his work.

HOWEVER, I do take exception to the lack of any attribution to my work, and is a very egregious oversight, at best.

At worst, it smacks of plagiarism, and there are more than one instance of that, such as the upper left-hand border comparison which was originally mine and emailed to him.

Also egregious is the fact that TechDude, myself, and TexasDarlin had agreed to publish a joint document, and, as you have now seen, one of us renegged on that agreement and stole the spotlight.

I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade here, but I would like to point out that there never
was an "uncropped Kos image" posted online. A scan of the entire COLB was never posted to the Kos or the Smears. It was always a cropped image, and I was the one who confirmed the true "birth order" of the images -- especially those of OpenDNA (who was initially "charged" with making the Kos image forgery.

Now, the FactCheck image was, indeed, posted as an uncropped version of the Kos image, although one cannot escape the likelihood that the extra border was added, post-hoc.

What I did confirm is that all of the online images came from one source file.


I also confirmed that my critics and detractors, coincidentally, are also the same to TechDude and his research. It is safe to say that there will always be
people who are antagonistic to others who reveal unpleasant truths.

But, now is the time to separate the men from the boys, so to speak. The critics and detractors who claim that the Kos image is NOT a forgery, demand to see someone actually create one from scratch.

I couldn't agree more. it is one thing to postulate that a forgery has been created, but it is entirely a different matter to actually create one that is a clone of the Kos image.

What may surprise these critics and detractors to learn is that beginning about two to three weeks ago, a clone of the Kos I created was posted to my latest blog post.

You see, the image that I referenced as the original Kos imageis actually the clone I created more from Michele's 2008 COLB image.

Here's the Daily Kos image from their website:



Here's my clone of the Kos image:



Keep in mind that this is not a point-for-point clone of the Kos image, since I did not proceed from an original, scanned image (a bitmap that has never been seen by the public), but it's darn close, and nobody was the wiser.

How do you tell my clone from Kos?

The "Time of Birth" on my clone is 7:25 AM; on the Kos it's 7:24 PM.

I replaced everything, EXCEPT the funky border. Like I said, the "security" border is not very secure when it can be reproduced by a scanner.

Making an exact "forgery" in terms of the Kos image dimensions, file size, JPG compression and resolution was not an easy job, although I spent less about an hour to make it. I'm still feeling the effects of a flu bug.

In the next few days, when I feel a little better, I will post a real "exclusive" --  a step by step guide showing exactly how I produced this clone, as well as posting a sampling of all of the dead ends I reached using the explanations professed by the nonbelievers.

I have about 320 images in all, but I'll post a sufficient number of them to satisfy anyone's doubts.

Like I've said in previous posts and in comments made on other blogs, if someone can make a Kos clone just by scanning, reducing the size, changing the compression, or any combination of these ways, they are more than encouraged to try.

Until then, I stand by my conclusion that I made over a month ago: that the Kos image looks the way it does because the original text on a previous image was graphically altered or replaced.

"Why" it was done is still open for debate, but the discovery that I made over a month ago still holds true. The image is not a "horrible" forgery, IMHO, because it fooled a lot of people...and that's the sole purpose for making a forgery.

Hopefully, the critics and detractors will come up with their own clones made in the ways that they claimed. In the meantime, the evidence provided in my posts and in TechDude's posts far outweigh any evidence that the images are are genuine, accurate reproductions of a paper COLB document.


It may look like a duck, but it walks, talks, and flies like a Dodo bird.



PREVIEW:

When I received a true copy of a recent COLB from a person named, Michele, I promised my readers that I would manufacture a clone of the Kos image to demonstrate how it was created. In doing so, I would validate my theory that someone's actual COLB, or a scanned copy of it, was used as the basis or template for creating a forgery.

I had theorized that the pixel patterns between the letters on the Kos image I was viewing were not JPG artifacts, or scanner artifacts, as the critics claimed they were.

These pixel patterns were characteristic of text added to an existing image while the image was an 8-bit, 256-color bitmapped image, and not while it was a 24-bit, 16.7 million color JPG.

Before I reached that conclusion, I had tried every other way possible to duplicate the Kos image.

People may say that OpenDNA, aka Jay McKinnon, already tried to do that -- that he produced two images that were also graphically altered.

However, both of these images were 800 x 781 pixels  @ 96 DPI, which is a far cry from the larger, 2427 x 2369 pixels @ 300 DPI Kos image. Basically, OpenDNA's "forgeries" were easy to do given how small was the area that needed to be modified.

"Cloning" the Kos took a little, more work than that.


I ask that all of you to be patient as I recover, and that you will soon be rewarded with the recipe for forgery.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Reference; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; certificate; certifigate; colbaquiddic; forgery; kos; newbie; obama; obamatruthfile; pl
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1 posted on 07/23/2008 12:40:58 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: Polarik
I can guess how they made it, but they suck at photoshop.
2 posted on 07/23/2008 12:45:55 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (How 'bout a magic trick? I'm gonna make this pencil disappear...Ta-dah!)
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To: Polarik

Of course it’s a fake. The question is why hasn’t the FEC demanded proof of Obama’s place of birth?

Another question, since every citizen has an interest in making sure that the potential president of the United States if fully eligible for the office, can we pool our money and hire a lawyer to sue Obama for a certified copy of his birth certificate shipped directly from Hawaii? I would be willing to throw in $100.


3 posted on 07/23/2008 12:46:45 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: spotbust1

ping to check back after my meeting


4 posted on 07/23/2008 12:47:48 PM PDT by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I'll chip in 10 bucks!


5 posted on 07/23/2008 12:49:18 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Future Snake Eater

I doubt they made it past the left tail of the learning curve.


6 posted on 07/23/2008 12:52:07 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The question is why hasn’t the FEC demanded proof of Obama’s place of birth?

My question as well. Doesn't the FEC require a certified copy of your birth certificate when you file your candidacy for President?

7 posted on 07/23/2008 12:53:57 PM PDT by Terabitten (Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets - E-Frat '94. Unity and Pride!)
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To: Polarik

Glad to see more of your work Polarik! Now to read ;-)


8 posted on 07/23/2008 12:54:47 PM PDT by Amityschild (NObama!)
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To: Polarik

Glad to see more of your work Polarik! Now to read ;-)


9 posted on 07/23/2008 12:54:48 PM PDT by Amityschild (NObama!)
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To: Polarik

The certificate is real.

Obama is fake.


10 posted on 07/23/2008 12:58:31 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Terabitten

I fully agree with your query.

I would like to add my own:

Why hasn’t Obama offered proof himself - it should be forthcoming without hesitation from him if he is sincere and legally eligible.

The longer he ignores the issue, the less people will trust his birth status.


11 posted on 07/23/2008 1:02:52 PM PDT by imintrouble
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To: Polarik
Everything about Obama is fake, including his birth certificate. There is no evidence he was actually born in Hawaii as he claims. His father was a Muslim, his mother a leftist atheist. His father was already married to another woman when he met Stanley Duncan(Obama’s mother). There is no evidence his mother and father were ever married. We do know that his father abandoned Barack and his mother soon after Barack was born. We do know that Barack’s mother did not want him around and sent him to be cared for and raised by his grandparents. Everything about Obama’s life is fictionalized and the MSM keep covering up for him.
The big question is why do the Obama people feel a need to lie about his birth, what do they need to cover up?
12 posted on 07/23/2008 1:04:26 PM PDT by detective
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To: Polarik; pissant; SE Mom; LucyT; Enchante

Bumping more excellent work by Polarik!


13 posted on 07/23/2008 1:09:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Obama gets the special-ed treatment as our untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: Polarik; PhilDragoo; potlatch; devolve

Bumping more excellent work by Polarik!


14 posted on 07/23/2008 1:11:13 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Obama gets the special-ed treatment as our untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: Polarik; David; Jim Robinson; Shermy

Bumping more excellent work by Polarik!


15 posted on 07/23/2008 1:14:05 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Obama gets the special-ed treatment as our untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: Terabitten

Just called the FEC. According to the person I spoke with, they do not verify whether the candidates for president are even eligible to hold the office. When I asked who was, he was unable to tell me who except “Congress”. I’m making more calls.


16 posted on 07/23/2008 1:16:04 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Bookmark for later.


17 posted on 07/23/2008 1:18:36 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Terabitten

of course the FEC doesn’t — the FEC doesn’t run elections — the states do. States set up their own rules for who gets on the ballot. I doubt that any state actually has ever required that you prove that you are over 35, for example, but if any do, it’s their business to try to put people on or keep them off the ballot. Similarly with primary ballots when questions (mostly phony) were raised about George Romney (born in Mexico), Lowell Weicker (born in France) and Barry Goldwater (born in pre-statehood Arizona). If there is a prohblem with Obama’s birth, it’s not one that some federal agency is shirking on.


18 posted on 07/23/2008 1:24:49 PM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: BohDaThone

We should consult Obama. He’s the expert on keeping people off the ballot through a technicality.


19 posted on 07/23/2008 1:30:27 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All
“The question is why hasn’t the FEC demanded proof of Obama’s place of birth?”

FEC is ONLY concerned with finance and money issues. I don't think there is a federal agency charged with determining eligibility.

When you run for president you file in each state you want to be on the ballot of- there is no Federal election, only 50 state elections (more, up to 60, for some candidates).

I looked for federal forms and could find only state-level forms, mostly for the primaries.

http://elections.delaware.gov/information/elections/presidential_2008.shtml

http://elections.delaware.gov/information/elections/pdf2/Presidential%20Candidate%20Filing%20Form.pdf

Here are two Delaware pages. One has the process, the other the form you fill out, and neither has a section for US Constitutional eligibility. There is a mention of “eligible to receive Federal matching funds under the IRS code” but I bet the IRS does not check to see if you are a “natural citizen”.

Bottom line, I think there is no real process to check- no “controlling legal authority”!

I can't do more research now, maybe someone else can look up the IRS eligibility issue?

20 posted on 07/23/2008 1:31:14 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

What about the fraud element? Surely its illegal to pass off a forgery as the real thing, especially in these circumstances.


21 posted on 07/23/2008 1:37:56 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: Nipfan

It’s not really a forgery unless it is used for the intended purpose. They can claim it was for entertainment purposes.


22 posted on 07/23/2008 1:41:35 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

If you are refering to the original fake, it is there as a dissembler. Plausable deniability but as proof for those who want the believe in the change that obamas change can change to bring in a changing way.

I think the kos fake is just a means to create a disposable fake that can be dumped if checked to closely. The question is who made it and who distributed the fake.


23 posted on 07/23/2008 1:46:55 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Grampa Dave; devolve

Thanks for the ping Dave.
There is one interesting new article that I read last night;

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/


24 posted on 07/23/2008 1:48:36 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: Nipfan
If he got, say, his passport with a faked COLB, then fraud would come into play. Or a loan, or something that required a certified birth certificate.

Who's the victim of the fraud if a staffer posts the cert from Kos onto Obama’s website?

Maybe it's a chargable fraud, but I've yet to see what gain Obama gets from this, aside from keeping us busy with this and not hunting down what he means by a “domestic security force bigger than and better funded than the military”.

25 posted on 07/23/2008 1:54:39 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: AppyPappy

Not on the Fight The Smears site which is dedicated to debunking untruths and is a part of Obama’s official web site.


26 posted on 07/23/2008 1:55:36 PM PDT by Nipfan
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To: BohDaThone

I think the states are just assuming that the DNC wouldn’t put someone forward who didn’t qualify. I think that he will sneak his way in and no one verify it.


27 posted on 07/23/2008 1:56:51 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Nipfan

Trust me. It will go under the bus like a possum on I-40.


28 posted on 07/23/2008 1:58:18 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Polarik

One thing that no one is taling about is that when a child is born to parents of different races, the child is usually ascribed the race of the birth mother.

That would mean that Obama is not black.

So, I guess he is a fraud in more ways than 47.


29 posted on 07/23/2008 2:01:24 PM PDT by TheRobb7 (Mutiny at the Convention: The Last, Best Hope for Conservatives in '08)
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To: Polarik
This is all such BS.

There is no attempt to account for different scanners, different, suppliers (printers) of the certificates, different ages, different ink suppliers, and a dozen other things.

The concept they are trying to advocate here is, “I can forge a certificate, so therefore they did.”

This is all mental masturbation.

30 posted on 07/23/2008 2:10:24 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: MindBender26

The only one that jerking off is Obama. This whole thing can be easily debunked with a real birth certificate. But he refuses to let anyone see it. Why? Whats to hide if the copy is exactly like the original? You can blast it all you want, but until he releases his original copy, this will dog him!


31 posted on 07/23/2008 2:18:58 PM PDT by Bommer (A Third Party can win when Republicans and Democraps stand for the same thing!)
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To: Bommer
Don't you see what is happening. While everyone is pissing upwind over this phony issue, they are not concentrating on the real issues of the campaign.

It's like when CBS called the WH to ask for a comment on the now-infamous Rathergate allegation before they aired. Rove issued a mild general denial, then waited for CBS to pee all over self, then landed on Rather hard.

In case you missed it, a newspaper announcement of the birth has now been found.

32 posted on 07/23/2008 2:26:39 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: JennysCool

Obama may be as phony as a Clinton 3 dollar bill, but the COLB is also a forgery.


33 posted on 07/23/2008 2:27:53 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Grampa Dave; xsmommy; FARS; null and void; pissant; PhilDragoo; Fred Nerks; potlatch; ...

Thank you, Grampa Dave.

Pinging.


34 posted on 07/23/2008 2:27:57 PM PDT by LucyT (What happens in Denver won't stay in Denver... August 25 - 28, 2008)
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To: BohDaThone
Since the requirements for the Presidency are listed in the Constitution, I would assume that it the Federal DoJ, not the states, that has jurisdiction.
35 posted on 07/23/2008 2:30:43 PM PDT by Roccus (I love my country...the government is another story.)
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To: Polarik
Your 7:25 image is of noticeably lower quality than Kos's. The text is less crisp. The JPEG artifacts are more prominent. There is a green fringe above some of the text. The crease near the top is harder to pick out.

Kos's image is 2427px × 2369px, 519,907 bytes. Yours is 2426px × 2369px, 478,223 bytes.

It is important to minimize the number of JPEG generations. Each successive decompress / recompress cycle further degrades image quality. Graphic artists generally keep store their images in lossless form (TIFF) until they are done working on them.

36 posted on 07/23/2008 2:46:51 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I’m good for $50.00


37 posted on 07/23/2008 2:49:30 PM PDT by devistate one four (H I V Homophobia Is Vindicated)
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To: detective
The big question is why do the Obama people feel a need to lie about his birth, what do they need to cover up?

Because this is the first real black candidate with a remote chance of being elected. Much like there are no women in wait to follow Hillary in an attempt at POTUS, there are no blacks in the Democrat party to follow in Husseins footsteps. This is their one chance and the msm is emphatic that he will be elected. If he fails, the msm fails.

Iraq has turned into a success and the democrats who vilified bush are now eating crow pie. When Hussein fails, the msm will never be able to put themselves out as far as they have for any one candidate ever again.

38 posted on 07/23/2008 2:56:59 PM PDT by Born In America (Will vote only for the NON-CLIMATE CHANGE CANDIDATE, irrespective of party affiliation....)
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To: Bommer
Yeah, there WAS another Hussein who would still be alive and running Iraq if he would have just let the UN inspection teams really verify he had no WMD and no ongoing WMD programs. He didn't and we all know the events that followed (including the fact that the WMD evidence that was found was not quite what had been expected).

Even if he was born in Kenya, Senator Obama is, by every definition I can find for it, a "neutralizing" American citizen as long as he had at least one properly qualified American citizen birth parent. No one has suggested that his mother wasn't a US citizen at the time of his birth, so the question is not one of eligibly for the office of President. He is. The question is why the reluctance to provide a certified physical copy of his Hawaii COLB for examination by the press and public?

My personal feeling is that there is a whole mythology that has been built up by Senator Obama over the years about his parentage and background. (After all, he has already been discovered to be exaggerating in other areas of his past.) These myths will unravel if the real facts about his birth and early years become public. If they do become known, he will still remain technically eligible for the office (after all, being a known truth bender/outright liar has never disqualified any other politician for office before) but his credibility will be shredded with the public. So, like the other Hussein, he may have no choice but to evade, dissimulate, ignore, counter, and rebuff to the bitter end because preserving the myth is so central to the appeal/power he has.

The situation will only come to a head if forced by a strategic series of law suits filed in key battle ground states. They would need to allege that Senator Obama is unqualified under Article II, Section I, Clause 5 of the United States Constitution for the office of President of the United States because he is NOT a "natural-born" citizen of the United States. To defend successfully, he would not only have to provide his own birth certificate but the birth certificate of his mother as well.

This would be a lawsuit he cannot ignore because losing it would cause his name to be removed from the ballot in each of those states.

Winning the lawsuit (proving he is not a natural-born citizen) would have tremendous consequences no matter when it was decided. If decided before the election, he would be denied the electoral ballots needed to win the election. If afterwards... well, if the Democrats thought 2000 was bad, let them imagine the effect of electing someone subsequently found to be constitutionally unqualified for the office.

In losing the lawsuit (he proves he is a natural-born citizen but perhaps undoes some or all of his mythology), it would be best if that occurred before the election for the effect it would have on his credibility. Now the critical period in losing the case would be from before the Democratic Convention to the election. Ideally, it would be sometime AFTER the convention when it was too late for the other Democratic candidate (Senator Clinton) to mount an effective campaign as a substitute candidate.

If it turned out that he was a natural-born citizen and he was telling the truth about his birth and early past, it would at least raise questions about his character and the advice he was getting on political matters. (Why are you acting like you have something to hide?) And that could raise enough doubt in voters' minds to be the critical difference.

The selection of the courts to file the suits in would have to be done carefully. After the case is decided (win or lose), we don't want the case file and supporting evidence to be sealed by the presiding judge (a la Kennedy and Chappaquiddick).

However, if the COLB issue is really problematic for Senator Obama, I suspect that the real Obama COLB will show up prior to the Democratic Convention and that it will be supplied by the Clinton camp.

39 posted on 07/23/2008 3:46:24 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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To: Captain Rhino

Fraking spell checker!

Second paragraph “neutralizing” should be “natural-born.”


40 posted on 07/23/2008 3:48:41 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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To: potlatch

Thanks for posting.


41 posted on 07/23/2008 4:00:11 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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To: Captain Rhino

You are welcome, interesting info on that site.


42 posted on 07/23/2008 4:05:29 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: cynwoody
I know that, which is why I made the first conversion from JPG to an uncompressed BMP and then back to JPG. If I had access to the original scanner bitmap, the original image would have been a bitmap, and not a JPG. Then I could have rendered all of it in one single pass.

I had to start with something, and I chose the highest quality image available to me, which was Michele's COLB, and made a bitmap of it.

I then edited it, and saved it at a JPG comression of 45 percent -- which is what I calculated to be the compression ratio of the KOs image, assuming that the size reduction, cropping, and JPG reduction were all done in one pass.

Like I said, it was not a pixel-by-pixel clone. There's no way to get it to be exactly the same, given that the original was a JPG.

One thing I did not do was to save it as a progressive JPG. Had I done that, the letters would have been crisper, and the artifacts less noticeable.

I might try going that route next time.

43 posted on 07/23/2008 4:08:10 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: TheRobb7

From what I’ve read, he’s only 6.25% Black - not enough to be classified as an African-American.


44 posted on 07/23/2008 4:09:48 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: MindBender26
This is all such BS. There is no attempt to account for different scanners, different, suppliers (printers) of the certificates, different ages, different ink suppliers, and a dozen other things.

Au contraire!

I originally hypothesized that the Kos image fell out of a giraffe's ass, but I had trouble finding a giraffe to test my theory.

45 posted on 07/23/2008 4:13:41 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Captain Rhino

Aw..I liked “neutralizing” better!


46 posted on 07/23/2008 4:15:33 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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To: Captain Rhino
To defend successfully, he would not only have to provide his own birth certificate but the birth certificate of his mother as well.

Assuming he was indeed born in Hawaii, it would suffice to produce his own birth certificate, because, in that case the citizenship of his parents would be irrelevant.

47 posted on 07/23/2008 4:29:11 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: potlatch

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Bump

Back and catching up now


48 posted on 07/23/2008 4:53:56 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead *08 !)
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To: devolve

That’s good.


49 posted on 07/23/2008 4:57:10 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: Polarik

Yer doin good, sir.


50 posted on 07/23/2008 5:21:41 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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