Obama's half-sister's name found on "his birth certificate" posted on campaign's official site

Israeli Insider ^

[dascallie]

Claim: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original By Israel Insider staff August 5, 2008

Independent analysts, working separately, claim to have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.

Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days. Israel Insider has not yet seen proof that would validate the claim.

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13040.htm

[Mr. Know It All]

FALSE - Walter Annenberg died on October 1, 2002. FactCheck.org was not created until September 29, 2003.

I stand corrected. Nevertheless, I don't doubt FactCheck's sincerity, nor their overall credibility. Can I argue with some of their findings? Sure. Do I think they'd present a fake document? No.

Factcheck.org credibility in question: They swapped out their high quality photo images for low-quality ones, while claiming, all the while, that "nothing was ever done to the original photos."

That would certainly explain the prominent JPEG artifacts. They obviously increased the compression after their servers were swamped with downloads. Looked like they saved a ton of bandwidth. I would have done the same thing if my servers were overloaded.

The original images have been archived and are available elsewhere. Do the higher resolution images show things that the lower resolution images do not? If they were trying to cover something up, they did a pretty awful job of it by releasing the higher-quality images in the first place.

You see, this kind of bizarre claim is the hallmark of a conspiracy theory.

Anyway, I've said what I have to say on the subject, so you folks can choose to do as you please. I'm going to go watch "Iron Man" on DVD with Mrs. Know It All.

[Aliska]

I didn't think maybe the grandmother could have put it in there.

Did you see the photos my daughter took at the rally today on my other thread I pinged you to?

[tsmith130]

My Gawd...can you follow a thread?! I DIDN’T say he was a fraud. It was posted earlier...I was questioning it. Sheesh...

[Mr. Know It All]

Well if Ayers is involved with it in some then I guess so !

Ayers was on the board of "The Annenberg Challenge" an education reform effort underwritten by the Annenberg Foundation (when Walter Annenberg was very much alive an involved). Ayers has nothing to do with FactCheck.org.

[Political Junkie Too]

I'm still looking for the authoritive articles, but in the meantime do the following:

1. Search FR for the posts by Polarik.

2. In the lists of posts, use a text search for the word "techdude"

3. See the mentions of "Techdude" by Polarik in his posts going back to August. You may have to page through several screens of Polarik's posts.

-PJ

[Chief Engineer]

What people are forgetting is when Maya was born in 1970 In Indonesia is the fact that her mother was working at the U.S. Embassy and could have simply registered Maya’s birth at the Embassy on the advice of people who worked there which would be enough to apply for a certification of live birth from Hawaii. Remember that Ann and Maya returned to Hawaii in 1972 so she could complete her M.A., but Ann was also in Hawaii in 1971 when Obama Sr. visted for the month.

[Brian S. Fitzgerald]

The hand-held certificate pictured at the factcheck site has been printed recently, like a college transcript. The digital records of Obama's birth are in the state of Hawaii archives. That sheet of paper is not from 1961.

Is there a link to another image that purports to be from 1961 that we are discussing?

If Obama's parents simply registered the birth with Hawaii, there might be no hospital record. But we are told he was born in a hospital.

[autumnraine]

The difference is if one of the parents remain a US Citizen.

When Obama’s mother married Soetero, she also gave up her US citizenship since Indonesia doesn’t allow dual citizenships. Since his mother gave hers up, and also allowed her new husband to acknowledge and/or adopt him for public schooling, she also gave up her son’s citizenship.

Is that what he would have wanted? Probably not, especially since she shipped him back to the US later on. But she did what she did and she didn’t seem that bright. She might have been intellegent, but she was too indoctrinated into hating America to have rational thought.

[MortMan]

You might want to do a little fact-checking on FactCheck. They are heavily associated with the Annenberg-Ayers axis, and therefore are hardly an unbiased source.

[autumnraine]

His sister was born after him and his mother was with Barack Obama Sr before Soetoro (the Indonesian).

[Political Junkie Too]

Here's the Israel Insider story where Techdude is discredited: LOLo: one certificate theory crashes but new Obama citizenship doubts arise.

-PJ

[fanfan]

when Maya was born in 1970 In Indonesia is the fact that her mother was working at the U.S. Embassy and could have simply registered Maya’s birth at the Embassy on the advice of people who worked there which would be enough to apply for a certification of live birth from Hawaii.

OK, but if she was born in 1970, in Indonesia, of an Indonesian father, Maya would be Indonesian. Did she give up her Indonesian citizenship to become an American?

[Chief Engineer]

We have no idea but Ann would have known that Lolo would have been given custody in the event of a divorce and she could have taken care of the matter when she was in Hawaii in 1971.(The marriage was already almost over when Maya was born) Maya did return to Hawaii to attend Punahou when she was 14, before then she either accompanied Ann while she was conducting field research or she got dropped off to her paternal grandparents.
The problems began when an interview was conducted with both Barack and Maya and they gave the name of Queen’s Hospital as being where he was born. In an interview a couple of years later the name of another hospital was given.

[Sisku Hanne]

When Obama’s mother married Soetero, she also gave up her US citizenship since Indonesia doesn’t allow dual citizenships. Since his mother gave hers up, and also allowed her new husband to acknowledge and/or adopt him for public schooling, she also gave up her son’s citizenship.

Thank you. It makes one's head spin trying to absorb all of this. Every inch of NObama's life is so mysterious, convoluted and suspect. Ugh!

[Sisku Hanne]

It looks like he & others never delivered on the “Maya name artifacts” hidden in the file data. But still, his original analysis of the document as being a fake seems to still be valid.

[autumnraine]

I’m really quite ashamed of how much I know, but I have been reading about this for months now with his Birth Certificate and all the ins and outs.

[DBrow]

“I am amazed that someone so near the Presidency isn’t required to prove their natural born citizenship.”

While the constitution spells out the eligibility requirements, it does not designate any person or entity with the task of verifying them.

“No controlling legal authority”, to quote a famous liberal.

Or, if you consider the tenth amendment, it’s up to us!

[Brian S. Fitzgerald]

The problems began when an interview was conducted with both Barack and Maya and they gave the name of Queen’s Hospital as being where he was born. In an interview a couple of years later the name of another hospital was given.

How far back do the two Hospitals mentioned keep records?

[autumnraine]

Guys, just breaking on Texas Darling website.

Phillip Berg, the attorney who is filing for proof of Obama’s citizenship has amended his complaint on October 9 stating there are 3 certified copies of Barack Obama born in Coast Provincial General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya.

Copies of Berg’s amendment at link.
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/

[autumnraine]

Also, Hawaii issues certificates of live birth when a child of a Hawaiian citizen is born outside the US.

“[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.”